1. #1
    nachoman
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    ****** and IBCBET stole my money through their mast

    Hello,

    In this short story I hope I can tell all about this so-called "master agent" called ******888@hotmail.com or ******888@yahoo.com - which by the way is registred in this forum and has several threads and posts published - who says he is represented in such asian bookmakers as IBC and SBO and basically is nothing more than a vicious thief and a lier. They stole 157,000 US dolars from me (which I have won in those bookmakers SBO and IBC and the agent kept that money and never payed me) and so at least I want everybody to be aware of this scam and not make the same mistakes that I made, starting with trusting such thiefs.

    These agents work closely with asian bookmakers which don't allow customers from Europe or any part of the world outside Asia to bet directly with them, so the bookmakers themselves should bare the responsability of the integrity and honesty of the agents they work with. If the agents reveal themselves to be dishonest and thiefs, the bookmakers cannot simply look the other way and say it has nothing to do with them, because in that case they become accomplices to this theft.

    So my story goes as follows: I opened an account with these agents and I sent them 3,000 US dolars, 1,500 of which were to open an account at SBO and the remaining 1,500 to open an account at IBC. So far so good and so I started to bet in those bookmakers without any problem and, as time went by, I was winning consistently and my bankroll therefore grew very rapidly. Then I asked for a withdrawal of 50,000 US dolars - 6,000 of which to be sent to my Moneybookers account, the remaining 44,000 to be sent directly to my bank account. The only money actualy sent was the 6,000 US dolars to my Moneybookers account. Two weeks later I still hadn't received the money in my bank account and I decided to ask for another withdrawal, this time 66,000 US dolars - 10,000 to me Moneybookers account and 56,000 directly to my bank account. Again no problem in receiving the money in my Moneybookers account, but the rest never came. So in total I had received 16,000 US dolars in my moneybookers account, but was still owed the 100,000 US dolars I had asked to be sent to my bank account. At this moment I started to believe I might be in deep trouble with regarding these agents...

    I then decided to stop betting at SBO and IBC bookmakers since it seemed not to be worth at all: if I lost my bets I'd lose my money, if I won them there was no guarantee I would actually receive my money... After I demounced to these bookmakers this serious problem I was having with my agents, they both closed my accounts there - and I still had a combined bankroll of 58,000 US dolars in there. So, in conclusion, of the 174,000 US dolars that I had, I only received the 16,000 through my Moneybookers account.

    In all this period the agents said they couldn't pay and offered me the following ridiculous "solution": they would pay me their debt in monthly installements of 2,000 US dolars, which would mean a total of 79 months (6 years!) to pay me the money I had won and should have already received if everything went accordingly. A ridiculous and totally unacceptable "solution" that I could not accept. Not only was this ridiculous as during all our arguments and discussions about their debt - which lasted several months - they didn't even started to pay me 2,000 dolars each month (at least a sign of an inch of integrity and honesty) but only sent me 1,000 dolars for the month of July.

    I believe that after what I suffered no one else should suffer the same theft and suffering from this kind of situation and these agents-thiefs should be out of business - as well as these asian bookmakers, who arrange such dirty schemes that oblige their customers to enter these obscure relations with agents to get an account with them, but seem not preoccupied with their honesty when dealing with their customers and say "it's not my problem" if their customers are robbed by their agents. Well yes, I think it's their problem - why don't they just deal directly with their customers and instead impose these maffiosi middlemen???

    I think both IBC and SBO are accomplices in this robbery I was a victim of, since they always ignored the hundreds of emails I sent them telling about the problem I was having with my agents throughout this period of non-receival of my money (which lasted for months) and seemed not to care at all with the situation. I will now look for a way to start some legal action against the bookmakers in the countries they are licensed in. I kept all the evidences of what I just wrote. I end this by hoping no person ever gets caught again in the hands of these "registred professional thiefs" which are the agents and the asian bookmakers IBC and SBO, who say they are honest and serious bookmakers but tolerate really well this situation I was a victim of.

    They are the thiefs who write at BettingAdvice:

    We are affiliate AGENT / BOOKIE from www.*********** / www.733333.com (IBCBET)


    About us :
    We are agent / bookie from online betting website ******/ IBCBET / TT181.COM .
    We got our own management website to manage our own customer. We co-operate with these companies. We find get customers for these companies and get bet sharing from it.


    FREE ONLINE BETTING ACCOUNT
    DEMO ID , LOGIN AND SEE

    www.***********
    LOGIN ID : cna39200 ( europe odds )
    Password : abc123

    www.733333.com ( IBCBET )
    LOGIN ID: mr1rmb39001 , mr1rmb39002 , mr1rmb39003 ( asia odds )
    mr1rmb39006 , mr1rmb39200 ( Europe odds )
    Password : abc123
    Last edited by nachoman; 08-02-07 at 10:01 AM.

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    nachoman
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    i want said ******888@hotmail.com and ******888@yahoo.com and the site is www.***********

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    vanzack
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    So let me get this straight.

    You contact someone claiming to be an agent for some 2nd rate sportsbook who has a hotmail and yahoo address that is posted on the internet, and you are surprised that you are having trouble getting paid 100K?

    Are you kidding? Is this a joke?

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    if i not wrong he is the contact from a web and the owner should be a malasian

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    Omnivorous Frog
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    You might be better served contacting SBR's Singapore branch/forum and look for the Asian credit thread. Then no one near you can suffer this indignity. Also, if you want to collect I would contact the local yakuza debt collection pool hall. Not too certain of their cyberspace abilities. Would this qualify as a Mongolian Beef?

    Best Wishes...OF

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    Quote Originally Posted by puntx View Post
    come on isn't obvious that a guy who have free email addresses from gmail and yahoo is a fraud...anyway is his mistake he should have looked for an reliable ibcbet agent...I recommend if someone's willing to create an account at ibcbet first to read how the agent system works and, i've found a great explanation on bet-ibc.com...and after that to find an reliable and verified agent
    This thread is 5 years old?

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    jjgold
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    Many fraud agents for SBOBET and icbet

    Use none

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