[slayer14]

Base runner begins on 2nd base at the start of every inning, who comes up with these rules and why tamper with the great tradition of baseball in USA.

[Bostongambler]

It’s just for this season.

[TheMetsSuck]

Cost me a live under . Wait Diaz did that also. A guy on 1st would’ve sufficed. 2nd is too generous. Sac bunt got a guy on 3rd 1 out then a sac fly wins. Dumb

[slayer14]

You have to earn your base in baseball, it throwing away all the record books

[JayLA]

mm isnt this how other baseball leagues do it?

[Chi_archie]

It's crazy I guess if that runner scores he gets points in daily fantasy baseball.

The runner put on 2nd is the guy that made the last out of the previous inning

[KVB]

It's crazy I guess if that runner scores he gets points in daily fantasy baseball.

The runner put on 2nd is the guy that made the last out of the previous inning

Also, if the guy on second scores, of course, it's an unearned run.

[EasyCover]

They will adopt this and make it permanent in my opinion. Gonna be hard to take Unders. If you like under as I do, best to bet 1st 5 innings.

[KVB]

It's used in the minor leagues, recently adopted.

[TheMetsSuck]

Awful rule. Lot of value in road dogs late in the game imo. I took tigers +208 bottom 8 just bc they get first crack if it goes to extras

[flyingillini]

I could see them using this rule from now on.

[Chi_archie]

Getting a lot of use today

[KVB]

...Sac bunt got a guy on 3rd 1 out then a sac fly wins. Dumb

This is exactly what KC did in the top of the 10th to go up 3-2.

Cleveland will get their chance.

Edit...the first batter for KC was a Sac Bunt, but the same idea.

[EasyCover]

I think it is a good rule. I am a traditionalist, but few want to watch a 4-5 hour game. Will be interesting strategy wise.

[ArunSh]

Does seem like this rule will make the home teams even more likely to win. Since scoring in extra innings will be way more common, having that additional information about how many runs you need to win/tie before you bat will be huge.

But yes lot of unders might get destroyed since many extra innings will see both sides score one and go into additional extras to build up the score perhaps quite quickly.

[mikejamm]

Totally agree Arun. Totals and run lines are fuk’ed with this bullshit change.

Dumbest fuk’in idea they’ve ever come up with! Like others have said, Baseball is about earning your way on base, and the strategy of using every fuk’in player and pitcher you’ve got in extra innings to get than winning run home.

[KVB]

Can it be exploited?

Basically 8.6 to 8.7 percent of MLB games go to extra innings. That's at least a game a day. It's also pretty consistent.

With so many 1 run games as well, about 28%, the spots of close games to hit the overs will need to be tight.

But it could be done.

There's a home road split that could help. Road victories end with a 1 run margin less than 1/4 of the time while the home games have closer to 1/3 of them decided that way. It still might matter this season with travel.

A capper needs to fold his own perceived edge to get further.

[lonegambler23]

u can thank bryce harper

[stevenash]

Basically 8.6 to 8.7 percent of MLB games go to extra innings. That's at least a game a day. It's also pretty consistent.

With so many 1 run games as well, about 28%, the spots of close games to hit the overs will need to be tight.

But it could be done.

There's a home road split that could help. Road victories end with a 1 run margin less than 1/4 of the time while the home games have closer to 1/3 of them decided that way. It still might matter this season with travel.

A capper needs to fold his own perceived edge to get further.

This is a spot on post.

Across the past 20 years one out of eleven games goes to extra innings.

p.s. it's never a good idea to wager a home team on a run line.
Road teams that are favorites is not that bad of an idea because the road team will always have a ninth inning at bat.

[clockwise1965]

Baseball has become a joke

[MinnesotaFats]

The only truly great thing about baseball is that it is THE ONLY SPORT where the defense has the ball and GREAT offense still fails to get on base 60% of the time.

Owners just made getting on base a 100% sure thing in extras PLUS put dude in scoring position.

The owners stupidity and the player selfishness combined with managers fielding lineups that are all or nothing is killing the game.

None of these teams today could pitch, hit, field or run the bases w the Yankees of the 90s, Cardinals of the 80s, the Reds of the 70s, etc.

Ridiculous

[Mike Huntertz]

It originated with fastball. Not a lot of runs scored in games so it helped get a winner sooner.
Was first just for tournaments but then was adopted for all games.

Like it or not it is equal for both teams and gets the game over sooner.

No concessions or fans to buy.....get it over.

[clockwise1965]

Yes.. the game has become an embarrassment

[SBR_Guest_Pro]

they will end up making it permanent

[TheMetsSuck]

If the game is tied in the 8th auto bet the over. Guarantee this is a winning formula that the books won’t factor in to live betting as much as they should

[Mike Huntertz]

If the game is tied in the 8th auto bet the over. Guarantee this is a winning formula that the books won’t factor in to live betting as much as they should

Interesting. Definitely something to watch and maybe wager?
Thanxs for sharing.

[pavyracer]

This is a bullshit rule. You shouldn't be losing an under because they gift runs to teams in extra innings.

[ArunSh]

This is a bullshit rule. You shouldn't be losing an under because they gift runs to teams in extra innings.

Don't really see why it's BS anymore than in say hockey an under losing due to a last second empty netter or in basketball, the end of game foul game running up the score.

Just an additional factor to take into account when betting an under/over for now. If it really is BS as you state, well seems like you might be able to grab a lot of value by betting over in every game

[DrunkHorseplayer]

Absolute fukkin garbage, even without taking into account the betting factor.

[pavyracer]

Don't really see why it's BS anymore than in say hockey an under losing due to a last second empty netter or in basketball, the end of game foul game running up the score.

Just an additional factor to take into account when betting an under/over for now. If it really is BS as you state, well seems like you might be able to grab a lot of value by betting over in every game

It's not the same with other sports. Not sure hockey is a good analogy as there can never be an empty netter in OT. So if you have the under 5.5 in hockey and the game ends 2-2 in regulation you can't lose. But in baseball you can have the under 9.5 and the game is tied 4-4 and with the 2 gift runners they give the 2 runs are almost automatic. It doesn't even give you a chance to play defense and score 1 run like with the old rules.

[ArunSh]

It's not the same with other sports. Not sure hockey is a good analogy as there can never be an empty netter in OT. So if you have the under 5.5 in hockey and the game ends 2-2 in regulation you can't lose. But in baseball you can have the under 9.5 and the game is tied 4-4 and with the 2 gift runners they give the 2 runs are almost automatic. It doesn't even give you a chance to play defense and score 1 run like with the old rules.

Well obviously no two sports are identical. Point is this is an additional thing that changes the game a bit, yes it should make overs a bit more likely to hit than the old days - just something to take into account when you are choosing to bet unders/overs. No doubt the lines themselves will be impacted a bit on the whole too to take this change into account.

Not sure if this change is good or bad, without seeing it in action a bunch hard to assess. But from a betting standpoint, just again something you have to consider in your assessment when you are deciding what bets you think are good.

[CanuckG]

The totals reflect the rule changes. Not sure why anyone is complaining.

[19th Hole]

I may be the exception here but I don't mind 16, 17 or even 18 inning games.
Sure extra-inning games wreak havoc with the availability of bullpens and players
with nagging injuries in upcoming games, but that is a traditional part of the game.



The A's made the home team R/L viable with the 10th inning salami.

[eidolon]

just have no extra innings in the regular season. There are 162 games, ties are okay.

[slayer14]

Will this rule be used during this post season also