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    So basically they just want to get away with whatever crime they commit with no punishment.

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    yes, but when store owners begin capping their black asses, they might have to rethink this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinakid View Post
    yes, but when store owners begin capping their black asses, they might have to rethink this..
    This is what they have to realize if they abolish the police. That means that the legit citizens can also kill at will without having to worry about any repercussions.

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    you are right about that and imo the private person will not be as easy as the police on this.i know just from local people i have talk talk too, they are willing to go to jail to protect their businesses and homes.....i know ladies that you would never think of carry guns are doing so today.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinakid View Post
    you are right about that and imo the private person will not be as easy as the police on this.i know just from local people i have talk talk too, they are willing to go to jail to protect their businesses and homes.....i know ladies that you would never think of carry guns are doing so today.........
    You take away the cops, you might have twitchy store owners shooting kids who may not even be up to no good. And who is going to do anything about it?

    This has bad idea written all over it.

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    already have a date for nov 3rd, same bop I banged in 2016 when trump won. We just talked and decided it would only be right to have a round 2!

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    BLM no touch with reality

    If Biden wins blacks will be just as angry and poor with same issues

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    I’m going to come out and say it…the same thing thousands, probably millions of people in this country are feeling, at this point.

    I don’t care about black people’s problems anymore.

    Don’t get me wrong, I care very much for the black people I known personally. I care about them as people, as much as whites, Asians, Latinos, and every other human being on earth.

    But I no longer care about the special set of issues that many black people hold so near and dear, and that seem to define them as a group…though thankfully, not as individuals.

    I’m simply worn out with them. Exhausted by their constant demands, their neediness, their helplessness, their hypocrisy, their never ending problems, their inability to take advantage of the myriad opportunities practically delivered to them, their ungratefulness, their refusal to take responsibility for their own lives or accept the consequences of their actions.

    I’ve just thrown in the towel. I can’t keep caring about problems that I obviously can’t do anything about. Especially when they have brought at least some of it on themselves, or when they won’t make the lifestyle changes necessary to succeed or to overcome or avoid their problems.

    There comes a point, where I just quit listening. When racist graffiti is discovered on a college campus, or on a black person’s house, my reaction is no longer outrage, disgust, and sympathy for a victim of a hate crime. It’s outrage and disgust alright, and it comes a few days later when it is almost always revealed to be yet another racial hoax perpetrated by black people. I really don’t want to hear them tearfully recounting that heartrending moment when they “discovered” some mean white KKK member had snuck into their laundry room, completely unseen and invisible to video cameras, to scribble “Trump ’16” and “Die niggers” on the wall. At this point, I’ll turn the channel.

    I applaud those who are successful, and overcome challenges, and I wish them well. But just like my white colleagues, if they make poor decisions, spend their money foolishly, refuse the free education available to them, have children they can’t afford, get involved in drugs and criminality, I have little sympathy. And I’m not likely to make an effort to be friendly with them or get to know them. I’ll be polite, but I don’t particularly care to associate with them, white or black.

    I no longer excuse or rationalize violence, criminality, laziness, indolence, careless babymaking, willful dependency or degeneracy among blacks, any more than I do with whites. If you’re a thief who doesn’t support his child, and spends his days drinking and whining about how his life sucks, your black skin doesn’t get you a pass from me. You’re just as much of a piece of garbage as your fellow white bum. Doesn’t equality feel good?

    Perhaps it’s the hyper-sensitivity, the arrogant and unabashed racism toward other races, and the self-entitlement. Could be the willingness to drop everything to riot, loot, burn and destroy personal and public property, menace, threaten and physically attack innocent white people. Or the propensity towards cowardly mob attacks on vulnerable whites, especially the elderly, women, any white person they catch alone and defenseless.

    I just can’t bring myself to feel for the people who scrawl vulgar graffiti on the sides of stately brownstones, or who break the subtly rippled glass that a craftsman, white or black, had carefully glazed in an ornate linteled window a hundred thirty years ago. There’s no part of me that yearns to reach out to people throwing garbage onto what had been a tidy, manicured patch of decorative greenery flanking a grand marble entrance with exquisitely carved doors. I just don’t have it in me, anymore. I do wonder what has become of the respectable, genteel families who were displaced by the social engineering policies of the New Deal, leaving their architectural legacy to the ravages of neglect and deliberate defacement.

    I’ve left the “dialogue”, which turned out to be nothing more than a one-sided, accusatory tirade, berating me for unspecified harm I am to bear responsibility for, and denying me the right to respond with my own, civil point of view. There’s simply no point having “the conversation” any longer. You smugly assert that I have no right to my views because I can’t possibly know what it’s like to be black. Yet you claim in the same breath, to be the arbiter, the expert on my own race, and therefore I have no right to speak for myself. So, have your own “dialogue” with yourself. I’m out.

    No matter what I do, no matter what I say, you say my whiteness makes me racist. So there is no longer any point in considering it. Fine, you say I’m “racist”. I don’t care anymore.

    I’m sure there are those who will say in rebuttal that they are “tired of” being the victims of racism every walking minute of their lives. And to this, I say…”Ok, I am willing to accept that you are being victimized by the inherent racism absorbed by simply being in proximity to white people. But you must accept that my response will be to avoid you, and to decline to involve myself in your issues, lest my whiteness somehow damage you further.”

    - Paul Rojas - Tulsa, OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    I’m going to come out and say it…the same thing thousands, probably millions of people in this country are feeling, at this point.

    I don’t care about black people’s problems anymore.

    Don’t get me wrong, I care very much for the black people I known personally. I care about them as people, as much as whites, Asians, Latinos, and every other human being on earth.

    But I no longer care about the special set of issues that many black people hold so near and dear, and that seem to define them as a group…though thankfully, not as individuals.

    I’m simply worn out with them. Exhausted by their constant demands, their neediness, their helplessness, their hypocrisy, their never ending problems, their inability to take advantage of the myriad opportunities practically delivered to them, their ungratefulness, their refusal to take responsibility for their own lives or accept the consequences of their actions.

    I’ve just thrown in the towel. I can’t keep caring about problems that I obviously can’t do anything about. Especially when they have brought at least some of it on themselves, or when they won’t make the lifestyle changes necessary to succeed or to overcome or avoid their problems.

    There comes a point, where I just quit listening. When racist graffiti is discovered on a college campus, or on a black person’s house, my reaction is no longer outrage, disgust, and sympathy for a victim of a hate crime. It’s outrage and disgust alright, and it comes a few days later when it is almost always revealed to be yet another racial hoax perpetrated by black people. I really don’t want to hear them tearfully recounting that heartrending moment when they “discovered” some mean white KKK member had snuck into their laundry room, completely unseen and invisible to video cameras, to scribble “Trump ’16” and “Die niggers” on the wall. At this point, I’ll turn the channel.

    I applaud those who are successful, and overcome challenges, and I wish them well. But just like my white colleagues, if they make poor decisions, spend their money foolishly, refuse the free education available to them, have children they can’t afford, get involved in drugs and criminality, I have little sympathy. And I’m not likely to make an effort to be friendly with them or get to know them. I’ll be polite, but I don’t particularly care to associate with them, white or black.

    I no longer excuse or rationalize violence, criminality, laziness, indolence, careless babymaking, willful dependency or degeneracy among blacks, any more than I do with whites. If you’re a thief who doesn’t support his child, and spends his days drinking and whining about how his life sucks, your black skin doesn’t get you a pass from me. You’re just as much of a piece of garbage as your fellow white bum. Doesn’t equality feel good?

    Perhaps it’s the hyper-sensitivity, the arrogant and unabashed racism toward other races, and the self-entitlement. Could be the willingness to drop everything to riot, loot, burn and destroy personal and public property, menace, threaten and physically attack innocent white people. Or the propensity towards cowardly mob attacks on vulnerable whites, especially the elderly, women, any white person they catch alone and defenseless.

    I just can’t bring myself to feel for the people who scrawl vulgar graffiti on the sides of stately brownstones, or who break the subtly rippled glass that a craftsman, white or black, had carefully glazed in an ornate linteled window a hundred thirty years ago. There’s no part of me that yearns to reach out to people throwing garbage onto what had been a tidy, manicured patch of decorative greenery flanking a grand marble entrance with exquisitely carved doors. I just don’t have it in me, anymore. I do wonder what has become of the respectable, genteel families who were displaced by the social engineering policies of the New Deal, leaving their architectural legacy to the ravages of neglect and deliberate defacement.

    I’ve left the “dialogue”, which turned out to be nothing more than a one-sided, accusatory tirade, berating me for unspecified harm I am to bear responsibility for, and denying me the right to respond with my own, civil point of view. There’s simply no point having “the conversation” any longer. You smugly assert that I have no right to my views because I can’t possibly know what it’s like to be black. Yet you claim in the same breath, to be the arbiter, the expert on my own race, and therefore I have no right to speak for myself. So, have your own “dialogue” with yourself. I’m out.

    No matter what I do, no matter what I say, you say my whiteness makes me racist. So there is no longer any point in considering it. Fine, you say I’m “racist”. I don’t care anymore.

    I’m sure there are those who will say in rebuttal that they are “tired of” being the victims of racism every walking minute of their lives. And to this, I say…”Ok, I am willing to accept that you are being victimized by the inherent racism absorbed by simply being in proximity to white people. But you must accept that my response will be to avoid you, and to decline to involve myself in your issues, lest my whiteness somehow damage you further.”

    - Paul Rojas - Tulsa, OK
    Well written. I'm sure it articulates what a lot of people are feeling but can't quite put into words. Sadly, Paul Rojas probably loses his job, his wife gets fired too, his kids will be expelled from college for being guilty by association, his house will be vandalized, looted and ultimately burned to the ground.

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    I'm sure all the problems in phila are because of having policemen. Surely, the city would be a vacation paradise by now if there had never been a police presence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    I’m going to come out and say it…the same thing thousands, probably millions of people in this country are feeling, at this point.

    I don’t care about black people’s problems anymore.

    Don’t get me wrong, I care very much for the black people I known personally. I care about them as people, as much as whites, Asians, Latinos, and every other human being on earth.

    But I no longer care about the special set of issues that many black people hold so near and dear, and that seem to define them as a group…though thankfully, not as individuals.

    I’m simply worn out with them. Exhausted by their constant demands, their neediness, their helplessness, their hypocrisy, their never ending problems, their inability to take advantage of the myriad opportunities practically delivered to them, their ungratefulness, their refusal to take responsibility for their own lives or accept the consequences of their actions.

    I’ve just thrown in the towel. I can’t keep caring about problems that I obviously can’t do anything about. Especially when they have brought at least some of it on themselves, or when they won’t make the lifestyle changes necessary to succeed or to overcome or avoid their problems.

    There comes a point, where I just quit listening. When racist graffiti is discovered on a college campus, or on a black person’s house, my reaction is no longer outrage, disgust, and sympathy for a victim of a hate crime. It’s outrage and disgust alright, and it comes a few days later when it is almost always revealed to be yet another racial hoax perpetrated by black people. I really don’t want to hear them tearfully recounting that heartrending moment when they “discovered” some mean white KKK member had snuck into their laundry room, completely unseen and invisible to video cameras, to scribble “Trump ’16” and “Die niggers” on the wall. At this point, I’ll turn the channel.

    I applaud those who are successful, and overcome challenges, and I wish them well. But just like my white colleagues, if they make poor decisions, spend their money foolishly, refuse the free education available to them, have children they can’t afford, get involved in drugs and criminality, I have little sympathy. And I’m not likely to make an effort to be friendly with them or get to know them. I’ll be polite, but I don’t particularly care to associate with them, white or black.

    I no longer excuse or rationalize violence, criminality, laziness, indolence, careless babymaking, willful dependency or degeneracy among blacks, any more than I do with whites. If you’re a thief who doesn’t support his child, and spends his days drinking and whining about how his life sucks, your black skin doesn’t get you a pass from me. You’re just as much of a piece of garbage as your fellow white bum. Doesn’t equality feel good?

    Perhaps it’s the hyper-sensitivity, the arrogant and unabashed racism toward other races, and the self-entitlement. Could be the willingness to drop everything to riot, loot, burn and destroy personal and public property, menace, threaten and physically attack innocent white people. Or the propensity towards cowardly mob attacks on vulnerable whites, especially the elderly, women, any white person they catch alone and defenseless.

    I just can’t bring myself to feel for the people who scrawl vulgar graffiti on the sides of stately brownstones, or who break the subtly rippled glass that a craftsman, white or black, had carefully glazed in an ornate linteled window a hundred thirty years ago. There’s no part of me that yearns to reach out to people throwing garbage onto what had been a tidy, manicured patch of decorative greenery flanking a grand marble entrance with exquisitely carved doors. I just don’t have it in me, anymore. I do wonder what has become of the respectable, genteel families who were displaced by the social engineering policies of the New Deal, leaving their architectural legacy to the ravages of neglect and deliberate defacement.

    I’ve left the “dialogue”, which turned out to be nothing more than a one-sided, accusatory tirade, berating me for unspecified harm I am to bear responsibility for, and denying me the right to respond with my own, civil point of view. There’s simply no point having “the conversation” any longer. You smugly assert that I have no right to my views because I can’t possibly know what it’s like to be black. Yet you claim in the same breath, to be the arbiter, the expert on my own race, and therefore I have no right to speak for myself. So, have your own “dialogue” with yourself. I’m out.

    No matter what I do, no matter what I say, you say my whiteness makes me racist. So there is no longer any point in considering it. Fine, you say I’m “racist”. I don’t care anymore.

    I’m sure there are those who will say in rebuttal that they are “tired of” being the victims of racism every walking minute of their lives. And to this, I say…”Ok, I am willing to accept that you are being victimized by the inherent racism absorbed by simply being in proximity to white people. But you must accept that my response will be to avoid you, and to decline to involve myself in your issues, lest my whiteness somehow damage you further.”

    - Paul Rojas - Tulsa, OK
    It's hard to argue any of that. The black community loves to play victim and most of their problems are their own doing. Father your children and stress education and maybe your people will be better off in a generation or 2. Many just want handouts for being black without putting in the work to be successful.

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    When I lived up at that shelter last year, I resided with many African Americans. Everyone, well, 98% wanted a disability check, Including White American residents, too. The problem I had is when we sat around mingling, they would exchange the fake lying stories to tell the board determining their case. Of the 98%, I'd put it at less than 5% really deserved any disability payment. I mean these ppl would call themselves Patriots if you asked them, but in the other room, they're milking the system dry because they just didn't want a job. This is fact. And, by no means bring this up in a group meeting because man you've never seen butt hurt till you ask a person to honestly explain why they need something that they really don't need. Some would literally get very mad at me for refusing to file a claim and perpetrate the lies to win a case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    I’m going to come out and say it…the same thing thousands, probably millions of people in this country are feeling, at this point.

    I don’t care about black people’s problems anymore.

    Don’t get me wrong, I care very much for the black people I known personally. I care about them as people, as much as whites, Asians, Latinos, and every other human being on earth.

    But I no longer care about the special set of issues that many black people hold so near and dear, and that seem to define them as a group…though thankfully, not as individuals.

    I’m simply worn out with them. Exhausted by their constant demands, their neediness, their helplessness, their hypocrisy, their never ending problems, their inability to take advantage of the myriad opportunities practically delivered to them, their ungratefulness, their refusal to take responsibility for their own lives or accept the consequences of their actions.

    I’ve just thrown in the towel. I can’t keep caring about problems that I obviously can’t do anything about. Especially when they have brought at least some of it on themselves, or when they won’t make the lifestyle changes necessary to succeed or to overcome or avoid their problems.

    There comes a point, where I just quit listening. When racist graffiti is discovered on a college campus, or on a black person’s house, my reaction is no longer outrage, disgust, and sympathy for a victim of a hate crime. It’s outrage and disgust alright, and it comes a few days later when it is almost always revealed to be yet another racial hoax perpetrated by black people. I really don’t want to hear them tearfully recounting that heartrending moment when they “discovered” some mean white KKK member had snuck into their laundry room, completely unseen and invisible to video cameras, to scribble “Trump ’16” and “Die niggers” on the wall. At this point, I’ll turn the channel.

    I applaud those who are successful, and overcome challenges, and I wish them well. But just like my white colleagues, if they make poor decisions, spend their money foolishly, refuse the free education available to them, have children they can’t afford, get involved in drugs and criminality, I have little sympathy. And I’m not likely to make an effort to be friendly with them or get to know them. I’ll be polite, but I don’t particularly care to associate with them, white or black.

    I no longer excuse or rationalize violence, criminality, laziness, indolence, careless babymaking, willful dependency or degeneracy among blacks, any more than I do with whites. If you’re a thief who doesn’t support his child, and spends his days drinking and whining about how his life sucks, your black skin doesn’t get you a pass from me. You’re just as much of a piece of garbage as your fellow white bum. Doesn’t equality feel good?

    Perhaps it’s the hyper-sensitivity, the arrogant and unabashed racism toward other races, and the self-entitlement. Could be the willingness to drop everything to riot, loot, burn and destroy personal and public property, menace, threaten and physically attack innocent white people. Or the propensity towards cowardly mob attacks on vulnerable whites, especially the elderly, women, any white person they catch alone and defenseless.

    I just can’t bring myself to feel for the people who scrawl vulgar graffiti on the sides of stately brownstones, or who break the subtly rippled glass that a craftsman, white or black, had carefully glazed in an ornate linteled window a hundred thirty years ago. There’s no part of me that yearns to reach out to people throwing garbage onto what had been a tidy, manicured patch of decorative greenery flanking a grand marble entrance with exquisitely carved doors. I just don’t have it in me, anymore. I do wonder what has become of the respectable, genteel families who were displaced by the social engineering policies of the New Deal, leaving their architectural legacy to the ravages of neglect and deliberate defacement.

    I’ve left the “dialogue”, which turned out to be nothing more than a one-sided, accusatory tirade, berating me for unspecified harm I am to bear responsibility for, and denying me the right to respond with my own, civil point of view. There’s simply no point having “the conversation” any longer. You smugly assert that I have no right to my views because I can’t possibly know what it’s like to be black. Yet you claim in the same breath, to be the arbiter, the expert on my own race, and therefore I have no right to speak for myself. So, have your own “dialogue” with yourself. I’m out.

    No matter what I do, no matter what I say, you say my whiteness makes me racist. So there is no longer any point in considering it. Fine, you say I’m “racist”. I don’t care anymore.

    I’m sure there are those who will say in rebuttal that they are “tired of” being the victims of racism every walking minute of their lives. And to this, I say…”Ok, I am willing to accept that you are being victimized by the inherent racism absorbed by simply being in proximity to white people. But you must accept that my response will be to avoid you, and to decline to involve myself in your issues, lest my whiteness somehow damage you further.”

    - Paul Rojas - Tulsa, OK





    Everything said here has been reiterated countless times by millions of African-Americans about their own people.

    Every race/ethnicity is embarrassed by some lowlifes of their own kind, and it's no different in all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Everything said here has been reiterated countless times by millions of African-Americans about their own people.

    Every race/ethnicity is embarrassed by some lowlifes of their own kind, and it's no different in all of this.
    Post your millions sources. It’s the same thing with you over and over. You live in a bubble and quote it as millions. You’re no better than the guy from Oklahoma who wrote this. Oklahoma was born on racism and his opinion easily shows what bubble he’s in. These are the type of people that are complaining about wearing a mask because it takes away their personal liberties but then acting tired that people live with their personal liberties taken away each day.
    This guy lumps in all black people once again like so many of the racist people on here to. It’s not going away just because you agree with some white dude from Oklahoma. So get on board or get run over, it’s going to continue like this for years until people open their fukking eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    When I lived up at that shelter last year, I resided with many African Americans. Everyone, well, 98% wanted a disability check, Including White American residents, too. The problem I had is when we sat around mingling, they would exchange the fake lying stories to tell the board determining their case. Of the 98%, I'd put it at less than 5% really deserved any disability payment. I mean these ppl would call themselves Patriots if you asked them, but in the other room, they're milking the system dry because they just didn't want a job. This is fact. And, by no means bring this up in a group meeting because man you've never seen butt hurt till you ask a person to honestly explain why they need something that they really don't need. Some would literally get very mad at me for refusing to file a claim and perpetrate the lies to win a case.
    So you’re connecting BLM with milking the system? And you’re also saying white people too? So in the end your whole paragraph is your one example of people of both races exploiting a system which then you pumped into a BLM cause?
    Man I don’t even know to say about this. How about the PPP loans and all the big businesses that just exploited all the money from that which you will then be paying for years to come? How is that different? It’s not. Don’t lump in racism with people trying to exploit the system. Fukk man everyday rich people exploit the system. If this is the reason you don’t want to open your eyes you’re so misguided it’s sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    It's hard to argue any of that.
    It's easy to argue against. Just call it racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    It's hard to argue any of that. The black community loves to play victim and most of their problems are their own doing. Father your children and stress education and maybe your people will be better off in a generation or 2. Many just want handouts for being black without putting in the work to be successful.
    Jake go check out these inner city schools that they go to because it’s where the affordable housing they can afford is located. Tell me what kind of education is being offered there. And watch these kids have to struggle through this area even if their parents stress education. You could have a kid and stress education all day and I guarantee you that kid would come out of that district and be 3-4 grade levels behind a white kid in a white suburban neighborhood. Can’t offer solutions that aren’t available.

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    I’ve never seen so many hypocritical groupthink people in one spot like SBR. Have any of you guys ever taken a stand in life or are you that spineless and unmotivated?
    Commending a long article which by the end of it has multiple hypocrisies and loses its point so just instead lumps all black people together. Unreal. I guess like Covid this stuff is going to need to hit you in the face before you realize it’s a problem.
    It’s sad that “I told you so” is going to need to happen for some many dense people to wake up

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    Jake go check out these inner city schools that they go to because it’s where the affordable housing they can afford is located. Tell me what kind of education is being offered there. And watch these kids have to struggle through this area even if their parents stress education. You could have a kid and stress education all day and I guarantee you that kid would come out of that district and be 3-4 grade levels behind a white kid in a white suburban neighborhood. Can’t offer solutions that aren’t available.
    Then let's do school choice. It's been brought up for decades. Why are we allowing local democratic governments to "sentence" children to a bad school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    I’ve never seen so many hypocritical groupthink people in one spot like SBR. Have any of you guys ever taken a stand in life or are you that spineless and unmotivated?
    Commending a long article which by the end of it has multiple hypocrisies and loses its point so just instead lumps all black people together. Unreal. I guess like Covid this stuff is going to need to hit you in the face before you realize it’s a problem.
    It’s sad that “I told you so” is going to need to happen for some many dense people to wake up

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    Post your millions sources. It’s the same thing with you over and over. You live in a bubble and quote it as millions. You’re no better than the guy from Oklahoma who wrote this. Oklahoma was born on racism and his opinion easily shows what bubble he’s in. These are the type of people that are complaining about wearing a mask because it takes away their personal liberties but then acting tired that people live with their personal liberties taken away each day.
    This guy lumps in all black people once again like so many of the racist people on here to. It’s not going away just because you agree with some white dude from Oklahoma. So get on board or get run over, it’s going to continue like this for years until people open their fukking eyes


    You clearly don't follow social media.

    There are tons of black ppl speaking against BLM, white privilege, and all of it.

    Sounds like you're the one living in a bubble duke.

    You seem to be one of those that so many fine African-Americans speak against and ate ashamed of.

    Stop being racist and following the lead of other racists who base their beliefs on ignorance and fabricated stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    Then let's do school choice. It's been brought up for decades. Why are we allowing local democratic governments to "sentence" children to a bad school?
    Because there’s a ton of flaws with the current school choice setup.
    First they started with the voucher program which is aim at helping kids go to private or charter schools. Except the vouchers don’t cover the costs so this would eliminate people that live in the inner city.
    Now let’s say they somehow afford to be able to pay their way in. Well these schools can decide to not let your kid in. If they are already behind or don’t represent what they are looking for then that ends that.
    School choice is a setup by people with a lot of money trying to change the public school system into private school setup. How will this benefit inner city kids?
    Now let’s say school choice became simple and it was just let your kid go to a different public school. Two issues with that. One transportation depending how far away it is. Two, what happens if everyone leaves all the inner city schools and goes to the suburban properly funded schools? You think the “were nit racist moms of America” are going to be ok with the fact that now the school their kid goes to is suddenly more diverse? Also not to mention what about the resources at that school. Overcrowded is just a small example of the problems that can occur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    Post your millions sources. It’s the same thing with you over and over. You live in a bubble and quote it as millions. You’re no better than the guy from Oklahoma who wrote this. Oklahoma was born on racism and his opinion easily shows what bubble he’s in. These are the type of people that are complaining about wearing a mask because it takes away their personal liberties but then acting tired that people live with their personal liberties taken away each day.
    This guy lumps in all black people once again like so many of the racist people on here to. It’s not going away just because you agree with some white dude from Oklahoma. So get on board or get run over, it’s going to continue like this for years until people open their fukking eyes



    By the way, if you haven't noticed already, Mexicans, Asians, Indians, Muslims, Europeans, and even the smart African-Americans, not just Caucasians, are tired of the same old sob story and blaming everyone else.

    The true racists have risen to the top and exposed themselves in all of this and they clearly aren't white, Latin, Asian, Indian, or Muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    Because there’s a ton of flaws with the current school choice setup.
    First they started with the voucher program which is aim at helping kids go to private or charter schools. Except the vouchers don’t cover the costs so this would eliminate people that live in the inner city.
    Now let’s say they somehow afford to be able to pay their way in. Well these schools can decide to not let your kid in. If they are already behind or don’t represent what they are looking for then that ends that.
    School choice is a setup by people with a lot of money trying to change the public school system into private school setup. How will this benefit inner city kids?
    Now let’s say school choice became simple and it was just let your kid go to a different public school. Two issues with that. One transportation depending how far away it is. Two, what happens if everyone leaves all the inner city schools and goes to the suburban properly funded schools? You think the “were nit racist moms of America” are going to be ok with the fact that now the school their kid goes to is suddenly more diverse? Also not to mention what about the resources at that school. Overcrowded is just a small example of the problems that can occur.
    So your best option is to leave them in the same place your bitching about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    You clearly don't follow social media.

    There are tons of black ppl speaking against BLM, white privilege, and all of it.

    Sounds like you're the one living in a bubble duke.

    You seem to be one of those that so many fine African-Americans speak against and ate ashamed of.

    Stop being racist and following the lead of other racists who base their beliefs on ignorance and fabricated stories.
    Social media lmao. How many of those accounts are real and verified? It takes 2 minutes to set up an account. You think Cambridge Analytica was a one off situation? Open your fukking eyes! I’ve responded to so many of your posts with lists and lists of reasons but you choose to ignore them and go to your same rhetoric
    “I have a Latina gf and I play hoops with black people so I know”

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    Plan will get squashed

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    Social media lmao. How many of those accounts are real and verified? It takes 2 minutes to set up an account. You think Cambridge Analytica was a one off situation? Open your fukking eyes! I’ve responded to so many of your posts with lists and lists of reasons but you choose to ignore them and go to your same rhetoric
    “I have a Latina gf and I play hoops with black people so I know”


    Ummm not when they are l posting videos of themselves every single day calling out their fellow African-Americans.

    Do i and others here really have to start posting them all here to watch?

    It's useless though because even when you see & hear with your own eyes & ears, you'll make excuses, claiming they are all Uncle Toms, or just trying to appease the white ppl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    So your best option is to leave them in the same place your bitching about?
    No it needs proper funding and to be put at the same level as other schools. My post is saying that you can’t just say oh hey everyone who is black if you focused on education then you would be fine.
    If I had to come up with an idea on the spot in regards to schools I would say eliminate private schools and have the money for schools in the state be evenly distributed throughout all schools. Put them on a level playing field.
    White suburbia would never agree to this though, they would bitch that they pay more property taxes, etc.
    It just all depends on if people are really serious about making education an important right that should be equal to all or if we want to continue singling our children and not giving them the opportunity to decide their fate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Ummm not when they are l posting videos of themselves every single day calling out their fellow African-Americans.

    Do i and others here really have to start posting them all here to watch?

    It's useless though because even when you see & hear with your own eyes & ears, you'll make excuses, claiming they are all Uncle Toms, or just trying to appease the white ppl.
    Post them up. I’ve told you a million times that if you’re going to argue for something that you should put your sources up with your “millions” claims.
    Why isn’t proving with support the right move here?

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    We need some tangible ideas to end racism forever. I'm ok with that and I'll keep checking back for plans that will work. Gonna be hard to change people into liking people they don't like, doesn't matter if it's fair or right. How about bumper stickers on every vehicle which state...Please don't be a racist...Or... Here's your brain as a racist and here's your brain as a non racist (with a visual)......it worked for drug abuse, right?

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    I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Asian Americans aren't bitching, and they were oppressed more recently in WW2. They are actually doing quite well. Muslims were publicly oppressed less than 20 years ago, and there are thousands of business owners nationwide. Blacks are the only ones crying for attention based on what happened a couple of centuries ago. They are the only ones wanting to be recognized for their skin color or race nationwide while the rest of us are minding our own business trying to make a living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    By the way, if you haven't noticed already, Mexicans, Asians, Indians, Muslims, Europeans, and even the smart African-Americans, not just Caucasians, are tired of the same old sob story and blaming everyone else.

    The true racists have risen to the top and exposed themselves in all of this and they clearly aren't white, Latin, Asian, Indian, or Muslim.
    So you’re saying racism doesn’t exist against minorities? Or that is so low that it has no effect on people’s lives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    No it needs proper funding and to be put at the same level as other schools. My post is saying that you can’t just say oh hey everyone who is black if you focused on education then you would be fine.
    If I had to come up with an idea on the spot in regards to schools I would say eliminate private schools and have the money for schools in the state be evenly distributed throughout all schools. Put them on a level playing field.
    White suburbia would never agree to this though, they would bitch that they pay more property taxes, etc.
    It just all depends on if people are really serious about making education an important right that should be equal to all or if we want to continue singling our children and not giving them the opportunity to decide their fate
    More money. More of the rich's money. I've been hearing that for 6 decades now, and it hasn't worked yet. Time to find a new plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Asian Americans aren't bitching, and they were oppressed more recently in WW2. They are actually doing quite well. Muslims were publicly oppressed less than 20 years ago, and there are thousands of business owners nationwide. Blacks are the only ones crying for attention based on what happened a couple of centuries ago. They are the only ones wanting to be recognized for their skin color or race nationwide while the rest of us are minding our own business trying to make a living.
    Actually Asians are bitching right now. Look around. Ever since our president called it the kung flu virus they’ve been experiencing many acts of violence.
    As for Muslims you don’t think they experience racism because they own a business?
    Do you think no black people own businesses?

    It’s about putting everyone on an equal ground to start and not discriminating against someone based on their race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    More money. More of the rich's money. I've been hearing that for 6 decades now, and it hasn't worked yet. Time to find a new plan.
    So then what do you suggest? Should every kid not get the opportunity to learn at the same level? Does early education have to be a class thing? If so then how can you argue my point that I made at Jake saying blacks can’t just focus on education if they aren’t given the proper tools?

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