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    When the ref stops the fight is irrelevant. The time on the tv screen is irrelevant. What matters is what the official timekeeper decides is the time and what the ring announcer declares is the official result. The official result on the WBA's official results page is the fight was stopped AFTER 1:31 of Round 6. Officially there was 1:29 remaining in Round 6. For betting purposes the fight went OVER 5.5 Rounds. Wikipedia has the same result. I haven't checked the WBC or IBF page. The YouTube links i've looked at don't include the official result being read by the announcer. The only way I see this being overturned is if someone posts the full fight video with the official ring announcement saying something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polskboy View Post
    Foxbet. They penetrate me over two weeks ago on shots on goal ,so we have a history. Books are grading bets as it suits them maybe even both ways,this fuckory have to stop.
    You are wrong. Books grade wagers based on official results. Move on.
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    On the CBS boxing page they have a short video with the betting results. It specifically says the Over won. The CBS page link is here:

    cbssports.com/boxing/news/shakur-stevenson-cruises-to-tko-win-over-felix-caraballo-as-boxing-makes-its-return-in-las-vegas/live/

    The video link is here, (after a short video advert - which I don't know how to block):

    cbssports.com/player/embed/video

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    Have all the books adjusted here?

    Are we still seeing under bets that have paid out, like BM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    This has analysis for round 6 action...

    https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/6/9...e-watch-boxing

    Sorry to say, this might have gone OVER, polsk.

    Get em next time.

    Depends when it ended in 6th correct? If it ended in the 1st 1:30 of the 6th then under 5.5 should cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Depends when it ended in 6th correct? If it ended in the 1st 1:30 of the 6th then under 5.5 should cash.
    Yeah Banker, my earlier posts in this thread were from me looking at a different line. I apologized for it.

    I was confuse early on, even if this post you quoted turns out to be the right answer.

    I thought we were looking at the UNDER here, but an official result may say otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polskboy View Post
    No I just spoke to bookmaker.eu and it was under. It went to 6 rd and ended at 1:33
    1:33 left in round? Had it been 1:33 into the round then under would be a loss. We talking boxing with 3 minute rounds correct? No wonder there a little confusion, it was about as close as it could get!! We talking so close that had the guy went down 1:22 into the round by time the 10 count was done it be a over!
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    Careful Banker, earlier posts in this thread were coming while books were sorting things out and there was still smoke on the battlefield.

    The top of page 3 here starts what looks like the final conversation with this.

    There may not have been an acutal 10 count there.

    At least I don't think so. Crazy at the buzzer finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Yeah Banker, my earlier posts in this thread were from me looking at a different line. I apologized for it.

    I was confuse early on, even if this post you quoted turns out to be the right answer.

    I thought we were looking at the UNDER here, but an official result may say otherwise.
    My bad, I only read 1st page and replied to the post that felt warranted to do so. Lol. As I said in my last post it sounds as if it was incredibly close. I need to get to page 2 and 3 to see the rest! The suspense is killing me now! Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Careful Banker, earlier posts in this thread were coming while books were sorting things out and there was still smoke on the battlefield.

    The top of page 3 here starts what looks like the final conversation with this.
    Gotcha. Working my way there now! Just found the dispute interesting enough to start chiming in before even reading all way thru! Cause from my experience those half round over/unders can get really dicey! Been quite some time since I bet one that was so close. As I mentioned you can have a guy go down before the half way point in a round but by time the count over and bell rings it has passed the 1:30 mark!
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    See to me that feed appears to me to be exactly what I mentioned. He went down before the half way point but fight wasnít officially over until after the half way point in the round, so I would assume the over 5.5 cashed and under lost.
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    I'm just cuirious now, did all the books get on the same page with grading?
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    Itís basically impossible to say when ref officially stopped the fight isnít it? He did not do a good job which just adds even more to the confusion!

    Aside from that those were a couple filthy body shots! That right hook then followed by the left upper cut to the body were textbook! I love body shot knockouts! Had he been digging into dudes body all fight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    It is really hard to determine when the fight is officially stopped isnít it? Ref didnít even count? Very strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I'm just cuirious now, did all the books get on the same page with grading?
    That a really tough one. Imo Very hard to say when it officially over! Iíd be pissed if I lost with the under or the over! Lol. Shitty spot for everyone involved. How did op book end up grading?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    That's what I'm seeing. Before Weeks even got to him, he waved it off.

    They let the clock run, so it was quickly under 1:30 and that's probably what happened at BM when the graded.
    He wasnít very definitive with the stoppage tho so leaves room for interpretation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    He wasn’t very definitive with the stoppage tho so leaves room for interpretation.
    I think it's a big reason this thread exists.

    I think the OP has a complaint form in, but it might not go his way.

    Anyone know if BM switched back to the OVER as a win?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I think it's a big reason this thread exists.

    I think the OP has a complaint form in, but it might not go his way.

    Anyone know if BM switched back to the OVER as a win?
    Easy for me to say cause I got no skin in the game but really think it a tough one to argue either way. As long as they paying out one side the other obviously has to lose, and I dunno which ruling would be just?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I'm just cuirious now, did all the books get on the same page with grading?
    no

    my over is still a loss at bookmaker... pretty much every other book in the world graded the over as a win
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    no

    my over is still a loss at bookmaker... pretty much every other book in the world graded the over as a win
    Yeah I had the Over too and Bookmaker still has it a loss. They even told me when I asked on Tuesday that it was clearly under. I disagree with that but I don't think they're going to change it again after they originally graded it a win and later changed it to a loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrgum3 View Post
    Yeah I had the Over too and Bookmaker still has it a loss. They even told me when I asked on Tuesday that it was clearly under. I disagree with that but I don't think they're going to change it again after they originally graded it a win and later changed it to a loss.
    sorry to hear you were unlucky enough to bet it at the wrong place, like me

    one of those weird situations that happens from time to time... bookmaker has been good to me so i won't fight it
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    sorry to hear you were unlucky enough to bet it at the wrong place, like me

    one of those weird situations that happens from time to time... bookmaker has been good to me so i won't fight it
    Yeah it's tough because he literally knocked him down right at the halfway point of the round. It really wasn't clear when that fight was stopped and at first I thought I won when I watched it but I wasn't sure at the same time because it was so close.
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