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05-13-20 10:58 PM #1
ESPN NBA all time top ten players list
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05-13-20 11:20 PM #2
LOL 8 of 10 are Lakers or Celtics
Garbage bias list
No KG?
No Nash or Stockton
No Malone or Hakeem
Dirk??
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05-13-20 11:24 PM #3
Lebum loses again
Originally Posted by lakerboy
Duncan over Kobe?
and i agree Duncan over Kobe is hilarious
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05-13-20 11:43 PM #4
Kobe should be higher
Shaq not top 10
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05-14-20 05:06 AM #5
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05-14-20 05:38 AM #6
Most contemporary NBA players said they "feared" facing Bryant.
Never heard that really about Duncan throughout his career.
You can put aside all stats, awards, and titles (of which Kobe is much more accomplished than Duncan anyway, more 1st teams all NBA, defensive 1st teams, more all stars, better stats)....when you heard from players about who they feared going against, that's really all you need to know...
Magic himself said Bryant was the best Laker ever. And yet he's at 9? Just a joke. Duncan even being a top 10 player is a joke. Guy played on a Spurs team full of Hall of Famers whle Kobe won b2b rings with Pau as his second best player and Odom as his 3rd.
Kobe beat more 50+ win teams in the playoffs than any other player in history.
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05-14-20 05:40 AM #7
James at 2 is a tragedy. That's saying if he never played another game he'd retire at number 2? There's no fukking way. I think James will be 2 when it's all said and done, but there's no fukking way he deserves that spot right now. If he doesn't win 1 more ring, he's still behind Kobe in my book.
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05-14-20 05:47 AM #8
make some noise for #13 stephen curry ... hahaha this is just plain pathetic
kd just 1 place shy of stephen hahahaha
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05-14-20 06:33 AM #9
Durant is a much better basketball player than Steph Curry. Originally Posted by MrSink
make some noise for #13 stephen curry ... hahaha this is just plain pathetic
kd just 1 place shy of stephen hahahaha
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05-14-20 06:34 AM #10
F you talking about? Kevin Garnett a top 10 player in the history of the NBA? Nash and Stockton? Lmao. Bro Stockton wasn't even the 10th best player on the dream team. That's just one era. Wtf are you smoking. Steve Nash 2 MVPs is the biggest digrace in the history of basketball. Guy wasn't even close to Zeke or Chris Paul. Never played a lick of D in his life. Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats
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05-14-20 06:47 AM #11
Yes Duncan was better than Bryant. Bryant had Shaq, Duncan had David Robinson. Did more with less.
Russell over Bird (and Olajuwon) seems laughable to me. Glorified Ben Wallace?
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05-14-20 07:26 AM #12
yep . no brainer Originally Posted by Goat Milk
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05-14-20 08:11 AM #13
They just put these up for discussion nobody really cares you could put 20 guys on that list and it’s close
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05-14-20 08:51 AM #14
Kobe is ranked 2nd by many fellow NBA'ers
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05-14-20 08:53 AM #15
Originally Posted by jjgold
True
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05-14-20 08:56 AM #16
List is a joke, LeBron at 2 lol. Not even top 5 right now. Head hunting rings by jumping from team to team is a bitch move and that's all he has done
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05-14-20 09:00 AM #17
Jordan
Russell
Magic
Bird
Alcindor
Should be the correct top 5. NBA changed the rules to slow down Kareem, they changed the rules to help LeBron. That's a world of a difference in terms of prohibiting a legend and manufacturing one
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05-14-20 09:03 AM #18
Recency Bias. Shaq, Duncan, Bryant are not Top 10.
Not saying FG and 3P are everything (especially with Russell)
but stats matter, and we aren't even talking about more games
and far better medical and equipment, softer travel, softer rules, etc.
Top 20 FG:
Top 20 3P:Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 15837 2. Karl Malone* 13528 3. Wilt Chamberlain* 12681 4. LeBron James 12424 5. Michael Jordan* 12192 6. Julius Erving* 11818 7. Kobe Bryant* 11719 8. Shaquille O'Neal* 11330 9. Dirk Nowitzki 11169 10. Elvin Hayes* 10976 11. Hakeem Olajuwon* 10749 12. Alex English* 10659 13. John Havlicek* 10513 14. Kevin Garnett* 10505 15. Dan Issel* 10431 16. George Gervin* 10368 17. Tim Duncan* 10285 18. Moses Malone* 10277 19. Dominique Wilkins* 9963 20. Patrick Ewing* 9702
Ray Allen* 2973 2. Reggie Miller* 2560 3. Stephen Curry 2495 4. Kyle Korver 2437 5. James Harden 2296 6. Vince Carter 2290 7. Jason Terry 2282 8. Jamal Crawford 2220 9. Paul Pierce 2143 10. Jason Kidd* 1988 11. Dirk Nowitzki 1982 12. Joe Johnson 1978 13. J.R. Smith 1929 14. LeBron James 1860 J.J. Redick 1860 16. Chauncey Billups 1830 17. Kobe Bryant* 1827 18. Klay Thompson 1798 19. Rashard Lewis 1787 20. Peja Stojaković 1760 Last edited by Snowball; 05-14-20 at 09:07 AM.
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05-14-20 12:32 PM #19
espn is owned by labum! he for sure not #2 all time top 10 player! that list is criminal.
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05-14-20 12:39 PM #20
espn needs active players high on the list
ofcourse they fake the lebron
im surprised they didnt put harden/durant in top 10 knowing those dumbasses
bryant is 2
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05-14-20 12:49 PM #21
Where is Oscar?
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05-14-20 12:50 PM #22
i think in that trash can bro Originally Posted by Bcatswin
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05-14-20 01:02 PM #23
enough Rudy Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger
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05-14-20 01:02 PM #24
someone is being a grouch Originally Posted by Bcatswin
ISNT OSCAR
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05-14-20 01:57 PM #25
It's all subjective.
But did someone mention KG should be in the top 10 list? Yes, he was a part of a phenomenal "big three" but top 10 all-time? No way!
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05-14-20 02:08 PM #26
ESPN can't help but suck off LeBron.
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05-14-20 02:32 PM #27
I agree Originally Posted by Conqueror
way lower than Patrick Ewing until he joined the Celtics
Now they are comparable
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05-14-20 02:53 PM #28
Olajuwon should be in top 10
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05-14-20 02:56 PM #29
Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger
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05-14-20 03:56 PM #30
Agreed. Originally Posted by asiagambler
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05-14-20 04:03 PM #31
You would think a still active player that already has two NBA finals MVP awards, two defensive player of the year awards, an All Star MVP award under his belt already all by the age of 28 would sniff at least a mention?
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05-14-20 05:23 PM #32
You're right, because to be a top 10 all time great you have to have been w the Lakers or Celtics. Originally Posted by Goat Milk
JFC man, there's 28 other teams out there w rosters and history and trophies.
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05-14-20 06:26 PM #33
those top 6 are the top 6 on almost any list you ever see......... in no specific order: wilt, russell, lebron, mj, magic, kareem........ seemingly a big dropoff to #7 on every list.
kobe is so overrated...... his shooting efficiency is terrible. not even that good for his era.
i think oscar and steph curry are underrated.
not a magic fan, but he was an absolutely amazing player.
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05-14-20 06:28 PM #34
but statistically there's no much arguing this........ as for the "cast in stone" top 6, almost all lists have those 6 players as top 6.. and as for lakers bias, 3 of the top 6 players moved to the lakers AFTER already being the best player in the game. Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats
if you want someone who was screwed...... wilt didn't get MVP (and it wasn't that close) on 50 and 28 stat line. lost to russell with 19 ppg average.
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05-14-20 06:29 PM #35
Needs to be by generation
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