1. 05-14-20 04:04 PM #1
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    Did you know states are not counting nursing home COVID 19 deaths/cases?

    PA for instance.......
    Gov.Says there are 4,218 deaths total in PA when in fact there are 9,036
    total deaths after you add the nursing home resident deaths 2,896
    +1,922     total nursing home employee deaths =4,818 uncounted PA deaths .........
    Numbers below do not include 1,922 nursing home employee deaths
    meaning the actual numbers are even worse
    If every state is doing this there would be a prorated 59,113
    more deaths than the real time total of 86,098 bringing the
    total US deaths to 145,211.........

    PA total case counts are actually 74,235 after you add
    the Resident cases 12,677and Employee cases 1,922...

    Prorate this into the US Total cases 1,441,055 and the actual
    number of total cases rises to 1,793,827



    Case Counts, Deaths, and Negatives

    Total Cases* ​Deaths ​Negative
    59,636 4,218 251,559
    County Case Counts to Date

    County Total Cases Negatives Deaths
    Adams 174 1978 5
    Allegheny 1551 21086 139
    Armstrong 56 944 5
    Beaver 512 2581 82
    Bedford 30 401 1
    Berks 3530 7921 196
    Blair 32 1642 0
    Bradford 41 1014 2
    Bucks 4248 12806 395
    Butler 199 2914 6
    Cambria 45 2227 1
    Cameron 2 84 0
    Carbon 206 1527 17
    Centre 128 1368 6
    Chester 2008 7726 213
    Clarion 24 570 1
    Clearfield 33 701 0
    Clinton 43 383 0
    Columbia 333 946 31
    Crawford 21 804 0
    Cumberland 477 2617 37
    Dauphin 895 6699 40
    Delaware 5252 13045 448
    Elk 6 226 1
    Erie 127 2876 3
    Fayette 87 2352 4
    Forest 7 44 0
    Franklin 563 3852 15
    Fulton 11 140 0
    Greene 27 559 1
    Huntingdon 200 547 0
    Indiana 82 938 5
    Jefferson 7 396 0
    Juniata 94 236 1
    Lackawanna 1256 3893 135
    Lancaster 2364 10730 183
    Lawrence 71 950 7
    Lebanon 856 3430 19
    Lehigh 3378 9903 133
    Luzerne 2477 7383 124
    Lycoming 139 1565 7
    McKean 8 307 1
    Mercer 81 1009 2
    Mifflin 54 919 0
    Monroe 1240 3798 69
    Montgomery 5583 23000 587
    Montour 50 2984 0
    Northampton 2566 8889 182
    Northumberland 132 944 0
    Perry 36 424 1
    Philadelphia 15624 39263 1000
    Pike 454 1587 21
    Potter 4 108 0
    Schuylkill 490 2920 14
    Snyder 33 287 1
    Somerset 32 1070 1
    Sullivan 1 64 0
    Susquehanna 82 461 14
    Tioga 16 397 1
    Union 43 699 1
    Venango 7 338 0
    Warren 2 228 0
    Washington 129 2932 4
    Wayne 107 685 5
    Westmoreland 422 6533 32
    Wyoming 31 296 4
    York 817 9413 15

    I added all the deaths above to confirm
    the number they're claiming 4,218
    as they are correct......



    COVID-19 Cases Associated with Nursing Homes and Personal Care Homes to Date

    Facility County Number of Facilities with Cases Number of Cases Among Residents Number of Cases Among Employees Number of Deaths
    ADAMS 3 23 4 4
    ALLEGHENY 36 373 108 109
    ARMSTRONG 1 5 6 3
    BEAVER 3 339 25 75
    BERKS 23 700 99 132
    BLAIR 1 1 . 0
    BUCKS 53 1356 298 315
    BUTLER 6 13 10 2
    CAMBRIA 1 1 . 0
    CARBON 2 58 5 13
    CENTRE 3 16 11 4
    CHESTER 38 673 106 181
    CLARION 1 1 1 0
    CLEARFIELD 2 2 . 0
    COLUMBIA 5 95 31 27
    CUMBERLAND 8 232 57 36
    DAUPHIN 3 217 48 26
    DELAWARE 39 1485 256 363
    ERIE 4 3 2 0
    FAYETTE 1 3 . 1
    FRANKLIN 5 78 13 7
    HUNTINGDON 1 0 1 0
    INDIANA 4 13 2 4
    LACKAWANNA 15 547 91 117
    LANCASTER 31 578 156 159
    LAWRENCE 2 0 2 0
    LEBANON 4 78 13 13
    LEHIGH 26 576 115 103
    LUZERNE 19 395 66 91
    LYCOMING 3 67 12 8
    MERCER 1 1 . 0
    MIFFLIN 2 1 1 0
    MONROE 8 146 44 34
    MONTGOMERY 88 2107 104 494
    NORTHAMPTON 15 607 148 112
    NORTHUMBERLAND 1 1 . 0
    PHILADELPHIA 57 1607 8 408
    PIKE 2 31 4 8
    SCHUYLKILL 9 56 17 2
    SUSQUEHANNA 3 42 16 14
    UNION 1 0 1 0
    WASHINGTON 3 6 2 1
    WAYNE 1 0 1 0
    WESTMORELAND 9 134 34 27
    YORK 6 10 4 3
    PENNSYLVANIA 549 12677 1922 2896

    In probable reality there are:

    US total Cases = 1,793,827

    US total Deaths =     145,211


    https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/coronavirus/Pages/Cases.aspx
    Last edited by PAULYPOKER; 05-15-20 at 05:11 AM. Reason: Had it right the 1st time
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  2. 05-14-20 04:07 PM #2
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    Yes and I also know that hospitals are reporting deaths as Covid related when they aren’t
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  3. 05-14-20 04:09 PM #3
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    I was under the assumption they were counting them which is why the age of coronovirus death was so high.
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  4. 05-14-20 04:11 PM #4
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    Not true in Tennessee. Misleading title. You say "states" but only supply Pennsylvania.
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    FAKE FUKING NEWS
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  6. 05-14-20 04:21 PM #6
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    Has this been fact checked?

    Unaware of the real death total.
    What about random deaths of
    folks dying at home from coronavirus/ non-coronavirus?

    Without testing how would any number be factual?
    Last edited by 19th Hole; 05-14-20 at 04:28 PM.
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    CA is most Def counting them.. See it in County numbers daily
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  8. 05-14-20 04:36 PM #8
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    Covid would hardly exist if it wasn't for long term care homes
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  9. 05-14-20 04:42 PM #9
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    Health officials announced Thursday just over half of all COVID-19 deaths in Los Angeles County were residents living in "institutional settings," including nursing facilities.
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  10. 05-14-20 04:51 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Covid would hardly exist if it wasn't for long term care homes
    exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Covid would hardly exist if it wasn't for long term care homes
    Almost LB and thanks for making me recheck my numbers as it's even worse
    as I somehow forgot to count the Nursing home employee deaths!

    Only 4,218 deaths are counted in PA

    1,922 of the uncounted deaths in PA are nursing homes employees and they are definitely
    nowhere near senior status but they were infected in a nursing home or brought it in and I'd bet on
    the latter though but technically you're almost right..

    2,896 deaths are PA nursing home residents........

    2,896 + 1,922 = 4,818‬ total uncounted nursing home deaths!

    4,818 uncounted deaths + 4,218 counted deaths = 9,036 total PA death count!Not7,114

    2,896 ÷ 9,036 = 32% of total PA deaths are Nursing home residents......

    1,922 ÷ 9,036 = 21.3% of total PA deaths are Nursing home employees.....

    4,818‬ ÷ 9,036 = 53% of total PA deaths are from Nursing homes.........

    53% of total PA deaths are not counted......

    Now I gotta correct and edit the OP.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by bballs84 View Post
    CA is most Def counting them.. See it in County numbers daily
    Great would you care to post them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 19th Hole View Post
    Has this been fact checked?

    Unaware of the real death total.
    What about random deaths of
    folks dying at home from coronavirus/ non-coronavirus?

    Without testing how would any number be factual?
    Lol....What?
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  14. 05-14-20 10:14 PM #14
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    PA nursing home deaths are included in the 4k. They make up almost 70% of PA's deaths.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inq...outputType=amp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rain Chains View Post
    PA nursing home deaths are included in the 4k. They make up almost 70% of PA's total.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inq...outputType=amp
    Try again as nursing home deaths are

    4,818 uncounted Nursing home deaths + 4,218 counted deaths = 9,036 total PA death count


    53% of total PA deaths are from Nursing homes.........
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    Pauly, from the link I posted:

    Of the more than 3,800 Pennsylvanians who have died of the coronavirus, more than two-thirds were residents of nursing or personal-care homes, according toPennsylvania Department of Health data

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-pennsylvania-nursing-homes-gov-tom-wolf-20200512.html%3foutputType=amp
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post

    +1,922     total nursing home employee deaths =4,818 uncounted PA deaths .........
    Numbers below do not include 1,922 nursing home employee deaths
    JFC Pauly. It's 1922 nursing home employee cases not deaths. Learn to read man.
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  18. 05-14-20 10:35 PM #18
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    All the guy does is post fake numbers that he makes up. It's fukin weird.
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  19. 05-14-20 11:06 PM #19
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    Yawnnnnn, Total BS
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    The Berks counter coroner has had different numbers from the state health department from like the 2nd week of the stay at home. That Ive personally confirmed
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    Fake news!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    Yes and I also know that hospitals are reporting deaths as Covid related when they aren’t
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  23. 05-14-20 11:28 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Try again as nursing home deaths are
    4,818 uncounted Nursing home deaths + 4,218 counted deaths = 9,036 total PA death count
    53% of total PA deaths are from Nursing homes.........
    Damn Pauly. This is just flat out wrong. Maybe one of the mods can do you a favor and purge this thread as it's an embarrassment.
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  24. 05-14-20 11:31 PM #24
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    In the la times they specifically spell out the number and percentage of cases and deaths in SNF and AL.

    What they are having a hard time doing is splitting up the prison/jail cases. Inmates are trying to get each other sick and the cases are exploding in the jails and prisons. It's counting against the County numbers when it should be carved out. See Santa Barbara county.
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  25. 05-15-20 12:30 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Try again as nursing home deaths are

    4,818 uncounted Nursing home deaths + 4,218 counted deaths = 9,036 total PA death count


    53% of total PA deaths are from Nursing homes.........
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    Pauly I understand it's not easy managing two accounts but stop with the nonsense
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    Take off the tinfoil hat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxx View Post
    JFC Pauly. It's 1922 nursing home employee cases not deaths. Learn to read man.
    Aw fiddle fukk,I had the numbers right the 1st time........


    These numbers are correct as they were in the original OP............



    PA for instance.......
    Gov.Says there are 4,218 deaths total in PA when in fact there are 7,114
    total deaths after you add the nursing home resident and employee deaths 2,896
    uncounted PA deaths .........

    If every state is doing this there would be a prorated 59,113
    more deaths than the real time total of 86,098 bringing the
    total US deaths to 145,211.........

    PA total case counts are actually 74,235 after you add
    the Resident cases 12,677 and Employee cases 1,922...

    Prorate this into the US Total cases 1,441,055 and the actual
    number of total cases rises to 1,793,827



    Case Counts, Deaths, and Negatives

    Total Cases* ​Deaths ​Negative
    59,636 4,218 251,559
    County Case Counts to Date

    County Total Cases Negatives Deaths
    Adams 174 1978 5
    Allegheny 1551 21086 139
    Armstrong 56 944 5
    Beaver 512 2581 82
    Bedford 30 401 1
    Berks 3530 7921 196
    Blair 32 1642 0
    Bradford 41 1014 2
    Bucks 4248 12806 395
    Butler 199 2914 6
    Cambria 45 2227 1
    Cameron 2 84 0
    Carbon 206 1527 17
    Centre 128 1368 6
    Chester 2008 7726 213
    Clarion 24 570 1
    Clearfield 33 701 0
    Clinton 43 383 0
    Columbia 333 946 31
    Crawford 21 804 0
    Cumberland 477 2617 37
    Dauphin 895 6699 40
    Delaware 5252 13045 448
    Elk 6 226 1
    Erie 127 2876 3
    Fayette 87 2352 4
    Forest 7 44 0
    Franklin 563 3852 15
    Fulton 11 140 0
    Greene 27 559 1
    Huntingdon 200 547 0
    Indiana 82 938 5
    Jefferson 7 396 0
    Juniata 94 236 1
    Lackawanna 1256 3893 135
    Lancaster 2364 10730 183
    Lawrence 71 950 7
    Lebanon 856 3430 19
    Lehigh 3378 9903 133
    Luzerne 2477 7383 124
    Lycoming 139 1565 7
    McKean 8 307 1
    Mercer 81 1009 2
    Mifflin 54 919 0
    Monroe 1240 3798 69
    Montgomery 5583 23000 587
    Montour 50 2984 0
    Northampton 2566 8889 182
    Northumberland 132 944 0
    Perry 36 424 1
    Philadelphia 15624 39263 1000
    Pike 454 1587 21
    Potter 4 108 0
    Schuylkill 490 2920 14
    Snyder 33 287 1
    Somerset 32 1070 1
    Sullivan 1 64 0
    Susquehanna 82 461 14
    Tioga 16 397 1
    Union 43 699 1
    Venango 7 338 0
    Warren 2 228 0
    Washington 129 2932 4
    Wayne 107 685 5
    Westmoreland 422 6533 32
    Wyoming 31 296 4
    York 817 9413 15

    I added all the deaths above to confirm
    the number they're claiming 4,218
    as they are correct......



    COVID-19 Cases Associated with Nursing Homes and Personal Care Homes to Date

    Facility County Number of Facilities with Cases Number of Cases Among Residents Number of Cases Among Employees Number of Deaths
    ADAMS 3 23 4 4
    ALLEGHENY 36 373 108 109
    ARMSTRONG 1 5 6 3
    BEAVER 3 339 25 75
    BERKS 23 700 99 132
    BLAIR 1 1 . 0
    BUCKS 53 1356 298 315
    BUTLER 6 13 10 2
    CAMBRIA 1 1 . 0
    CARBON 2 58 5 13
    CENTRE 3 16 11 4
    CHESTER 38 673 106 181
    CLARION 1 1 1 0
    CLEARFIELD 2 2 . 0
    COLUMBIA 5 95 31 27
    CUMBERLAND 8 232 57 36
    DAUPHIN 3 217 48 26
    DELAWARE 39 1485 256 363
    ERIE 4 3 2 0
    FAYETTE 1 3 . 1
    FRANKLIN 5 78 13 7
    HUNTINGDON 1 0 1 0
    INDIANA 4 13 2 4
    LACKAWANNA 15 547 91 117
    LANCASTER 31 578 156 159
    LAWRENCE 2 0 2 0
    LEBANON 4 78 13 13
    LEHIGH 26 576 115 103
    LUZERNE 19 395 66 91
    LYCOMING 3 67 12 8
    MERCER 1 1 . 0
    MIFFLIN 2 1 1 0
    MONROE 8 146 44 34
    MONTGOMERY 88 2107 104 494
    NORTHAMPTON 15 607 148 112
    NORTHUMBERLAND 1 1 . 0
    PHILADELPHIA 57 1607 8 408
    PIKE 2 31 4 8
    SCHUYLKILL 9 56 17 2
    SUSQUEHANNA 3 42 16 14
    UNION 1 0 1 0
    WASHINGTON 3 6 2 1
    WAYNE 1 0 1 0
    WESTMORELAND 9 134 34 27
    YORK 6 10 4 3
    PENNSYLVANIA 549 12677 1922 2896

    In probable reality there are:

    US total Cases = 1,793,827

    US total Deaths =     145,211


    https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/coronavirus/Pages/Cases.aspx
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    Again, those deaths are included. The site is breaking them out. Pauly, you need help bud.

    Quote from May 12:
    Of the more than 3,800 Pennsylvanians who have died of the coronavirus, more than two-thirds were residents of nursing or personal-care homes, according to Pennsylvania Department of Health data


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inq...outputType=amp
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
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    Pauly I understand it's not easy managing two accounts but stop with the nonsense
    Exactly you have 4,294 deaths they are not counted in nursing homes.......


    In the OP the PA GOVERNMENT says there are4,218 deaths
    when in fact there are7,114 deaths when you add nursing home deaths.......
    Go ahead and add the death total on the County Case Counts to Date
    death section of chart.......

    I'll bet you $100,000 there are exactly 4,218 deaths in that chart....

    Here is the cases by county Chart.....

    On the right of county total cases and deaths I've inserted the nursing home
    cases and deaths color coded red.....

    Lycoming county bombshells any theory/belief of the state counting
    nursing home deaths as the nursing home deaths are 8 and
    the county's recorded deaths are 7.......

    Cumberland county does as well 36/37

    Lightbulbs are on state case/death numbers that are ludacris
    to believe the nursing home deaths are actually counted
    toward state recorded totals........



    Case Counts, Deaths, and Negatives

    Total Cases* ​Deaths ​Negative
    59,636 4,218 251,559

    County Case Counts to Date

    County Total Cases Negatives Deaths
    Adams 174-27 1978 5-4
    Allegheny
    		 1551--481 21086 139-109
    Armstrong 56-11 944 5-3
    Beaver 512-364 2581 82-75
    Bedford 30-0 401 1-0
    Berks
    		 3530-799 7921 196-132
    Blair 32-1 1642 0-0
    Bradford 41-0 1014 2-0
    Bucks 4248-1,409 12806 395-315
    Butler 199-23 2914 6-2
    Cambria 45-1 2227 1-0
    Cameron 2-0 84 0-0
    Carbon 206-63- 1527 17-13
    Centre 128-27 1368 6-4
    Chester
    		 2008-779 7726 213-181
    Clarion 24-2 570 1-0
    Clearfield 33-2 701 0-0
    Clinton 43 383 0
    Columbia 333-126‬ 946 31-27
    Crawford 21-0 804 0-0
    Cumberland
    		 477-289 2617 37-36
    Dauphin 895-265 6699 40-26
    Delaware 5252-1,741 13045 448-363
    Elk 6-0 226 1-0
    Erie 127-5 2876 3-0
    Fayette 87-3 2352 4-1
    Forest 7-0 44 0-0
    Franklin 563-91 3852 15-7
    Fulton 11-0 140 0-0
    Greene 27-0 559 1-0
    Huntingdon 200-1 547 0-0
    Indiana 82-15 938 5-4
    Jefferson 7-0 396 0-0
    Juniata 94-0 236 1-0
    Lackawanna
    		 1256-638 3893 135-117
    Lancaster
    		 2364-734 10730 183-159
    Lawrence 71-2 950 7-0
    Lebanon
    		 856-91 3430 19-13
    Lehigh
    		 3378-691 9903 133-103
    Luzerne
    		 2477-461 7383 124-91
    Lycoming
    		 139-79 1565 7-8
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    McKean 8-0 307 1-0
    Mercer 81-1 1009 2-0
    Mifflin 54-2 919 0-0
    Monroe 1240-190 3798 69-34
    Montgomery
    		 5583-2,211 23000 587-494
    Montour 50-0 2984 0-0
    Northampton
    		 2566-755 8889 182-112
    Northumberland 132-1 944 0-0
    Perry 36-0 424 1-0
    Philadelphia 15624-1615
    		 39263 1000-408
    Pike 454-35 1587 21-8
    Potter 4-0 108 0-0
    Schuylkill 490-73 2920 14-2
    Snyder 33-0 287 1-0
    Somerset 32-0 1070 1-0
    Sullivan 1-0 64 0-0
    Susquehanna
    		 82-58 461 14-14
    No way
    Tioga 16-0 397 1-0
    Union 43-1 699 1-0
    Venango 7-0 338 0-0
    Warren 2-0 228 0-0
    Washington 129-8 2932 4-1
    Wayne 107-1 685 5-0
    Westmoreland
    		 422-168 6533 32-27
    Wyoming 31-0 296 4-0
    York 817--14 9413 15-3

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  31. 05-15-20 09:16 AM #31
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    PA includes nursing home deaths and cases in their data

    they just haven't been giving the specifics on which nursing homes and how many at each nursing home. They recently announced they would make those added details public.

    https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/0...ed-monday.html


    Pennsylvania’s long-term care facilities, especially skilled nursing homes, are being hard-hit by COVID-19. As of Wednesday, 2,705 residents of nursing and personal care facilities had died — two-thirds of the state’s COVID-19 death toll.

    Secretary of Health Dr. Rachel Levine said Wednesday that 14,214 people have come down with COVID-19 at 543 facilities in 44 counties. About 1,800 employees of the facilities have tested positive.

    Pennsylvania has about 700 nursing homes and about 1,200 personal care or similar facilities.

    So far, the state has released the number of cases and deaths per county without naming facilities. State officials said they withheld more specific information to protect medical privacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    PA includes nursing home deaths and cases in their data

    they just haven't been giving the specifics on which nursing homes and how many at each nursing home. They recently announced they would make those added details public.

    https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/0...ed-monday.html


    Pennsylvania’s long-term care facilities, especially skilled nursing homes, are being hard-hit by COVID-19. As of Wednesday, 2,705 residents of nursing and personal care facilities had died — two-thirds of the state’s COVID-19 death toll.

    Secretary of Health Dr. Rachel Levine said Wednesday that 14,214 people have come down with COVID-19 at 543 facilities in 44 counties. About 1,800 employees of the facilities have tested positive.

    Pennsylvania has about 700 nursing homes and about 1,200 personal care or similar facilities.

    So far, the state has released the number of cases and deaths per county without naming facilities. State officials said they withheld more specific information to protect medical privacy.

    Pa. will soon reveal coronavirus infections and deaths at nursing homes, identify facilities involved
    From the title of your linked article...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkwind View Post
    Yawnnnnn, Total BS


    This whole situation is BS.
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  34. 05-15-20 09:36 AM #34
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    This guy went brain dead long ago.

    Sad he is still allowed to post and make himself look dumber as the days go on.

    Help him SBR.
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  35. 05-15-20 09:40 AM #35
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    Lol......all my numbers are from PA Government COVID 19 data......


    An Official Pennsylvania Government Website


    Meanwhile you guys are posting news articles which are totally worthless............

    I calculated all of their data as my numbers are correct using their recorded data......

    You will not find anything on the internet that gives you these numbers
    cause no one has calculated the numbers but me..........

    Crack is whack.........
    https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/dis...ges/Cases.aspx

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    So ya need to quit posting articles with no data cause they're worthless.......
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