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    Gulfstream Park Friday 4/10 Thread

    Expecting some light rain Fri and Sat, adjust accordingly.


    Race 1


    Absolute wide open 20k Maiden Claimer, I believe many are going to side with the #3 Bebeau (9/2) , 4 year old gelding makes all the sense in the world, dropping down after a few near misses. But I’ll wager that this one goes off 3/1 at best. For that reason I’ll suggest using in the multi race bets, but if your playing this early pick 5 sequence , you better have strong opinions later, because this race is gonna cost you. #6 Traceability (6/1) , I wanted to side with this 3 year old chestnut colt. Bill Mott has him improving and the 3/8’s work 3 days ago tells me he wants this one more forwardly placed, which makes great sense to me, as this is not a loaded paced field, by any means. And I simply don’t trust Joel right now to do that. #1 Joe Benjamin (4/1) , Something tells me , Paco back from suspension gives this one a very positive ride in this spot, but not sure this 4 year colt is good enough, and while they just ran behind #2 Winning Factor (7/2) , Rajiv at a number like this , is almost an automatic toss for me. Even though this colt fits in some ways , I highly doubt the 11th time is the charm. #7 Backanblue (12/1) , 3 year old colt ran evenly on debut, number came back fine, drops the tag in half, adds the blinkers and gets a pilot upgrade. Primed to take a big step forward at second asking. #8 Power (10/1) , McPeek’s barn is scorching hot, and enlists the hottest jockey in the country. 4 year colt has been working very well, taking the huge drop in for a tag. #10 Castillete (20/1) ,coming off a placing , in which he finished ahead of Duelist, who tyler just rode to victory here last week. Note the half mile work of 47 & 4 a week ago. #11 Katara Pass (15/1) , 4 year old gelding stretches out off a showing from a 13 month layoff, Gets a positive rider change. Another that should step forward. #12 Beach Traffic (8/1) , Has the feel like this 3 year old gelding is going to be a professional maiden, but the numbers fit here, don’t they? #13 Strong Ending (6/1 AE) , Saez rides here after being the last pilot to ride on both the #1 and #3, Has been taken on some very wide trips recently , but note the z pattern the last time Luis Rode. Always takes money, you comfortable leaving this one off the ticket, if he gets in? #14 Indirectly (10/1 AE) , I had this Chestnut colt on my ticket at last asking, and tossed the rider. Barn is quietly having a excellent run down in South Florida.


    If I have to narrow down this race, I Suppose the cheapest I could go is 1,3,6,7,8,11. If your playing a vertical ticket , Well good luck figuring out how this combination turns out.


    Race 2


    Repole Stables and Todd Pletcher , can’t be too happy with the #4 Silver Maker (1/1) , not too long ago paid 800k for this 3 year colt, and today it can be all yours for $12.5k. Im not confident , if they aren’t. #3 Dardanellos (8/1) , Almost impossible this one doesn’t hit the board in some fashion, Jockey upgrade. #9 Hail Michigan (9/2) , 4 year old colt goes turf to dirt, for Mr. Tagg and positive to see Paco aboard, Working solid in the am’s and this one should be more involved early today. #10 Gambit (6/1) , just look all the money this 5 year gelding has burned up , wow! How can you back this one now.


    I can not back anybody in this field, so Im definitely out of the early Horizontal plays here. I suppose you take the 4 and 9 by default, but not for my money.


    Race 3


    #2 Donder ’n Blitzen (7/2) , IS a must include and saez returns to make it 2 in a row at the level. And while you won’t get anywhere near this price, its a pretty much faceless race, and very logical to wire this field. Beautiful spot here, with one of the best aggressive riders in the world. #3 Days of Spring (5/2) , has tactical speed and drops back down to the original claimed level. But like many in here will be praying Joel sends #9 Vickythebest (8/1) , really the only one that may challenge the top pick in this spot on the front end. But Im betting Joel will try the rate the horse. Look there is a lot would be players in here if they get pace to run at, but i just don’t see it. #4 Beasaichi (4/1) , First off the claim after just missing @ last asking against the top pick. I think we see that same 24 and 49 here, but did have to steady late and has an excuse for not getting up in time. #5 Lady Noguez (6/1) , comes outta the same race only losing by a neck , logical both these will be coming late again. #6 Sayyida Al Hurra (6/1) , If Mr. Motion put a better pilot on this 3 year old filly, I’d be tempted to make her my top pick at a price. Clear Question mark in this field, as we really don’t know what she can do or even where she belongs. Ran at the 75k level in last 2, and didn’t show much, but i count 4 different distances in 5 lifetime races, along with 3 different surfaces. #7 Miss My Macho (12/1) , Didn't show much trying winners for the first time, but she should take a step forward today.


    Not that we will get it, but I’d be very happy to play the #2 to win @ 5/2 or better.


    Race 4


    There is no reason to write on another wide open race, this Maiden claimer is loaded with connections dropping in for the tag combined w/ some firsters. So I’ll just give the one I’ll side with. #3 Carolyn’s Smile (3/1) , 3 year old filly outta Khozan set the pace while dueling in the last off a 9 month layoff and ended up 4th beaten by 5.5. Note the 3rd place finisher came back to win. Tyler returns for Mr. Nicks (who has done some fine work with these Khozan’s as he was the original trainer on my buddies horse Untitled, who we are trying to get the derby). They take the blinkers off and expect this one’s stamina to be up in the 2nd off the layoff try and be able to stick close early in a stalking fashion.


    Race 5


    #1 Algodonal (5/2) , Horse has clear speed from the rail, but 5% Rajiv on a turf speed at this price? 4 year old filly has 2nd place written all over her. #5 Gorgeous in Grey (8/1) , enters this off a 7 month layoff, but weaver has been pushing all the right buttons down here, and not a bad start by tabbing Tyler to ride. #6 Feature Creature (6/1) , Finished right behind the Favorite in last asking under Irad. 4 year old filly always tries hard and is always around. Drops down here, for this second off the lay off the try and might get the trip.


    For that reason I’ll make the latter my top selection.


    Race 6


    This race plays almost like a quarter horse field. The #1 Take Charge Dude (3/5) , Is clearly a top contender, but is off the 2 month layoff and had a tough go of it last out. I don’t see this 10k Optional Claiming condition often. #2 Travy Boy (8/1) , 5 year old gelding always brings it, and should cash another check today. #4 Phish Fan (6/1) , I think this 10 year old gelding is a a really cool horse. 33 outta 62 in the money lifetime and 9 outta 22 on this oval. But if the speed duel does happen here, this one shows the ability to rate and gets the best pilot aboard in quite a long time.


    I’ll take the #4 as top selection, but have to include the others on horizontals.


    Race 7


    #2 Get Rewarded (12/1) , Only qualifies for this non winners of 2 , due to a disqualification 2 back. Following that effort , 4 year old filly encountered a ton of trouble in the last, and I still ran well. This barn is quietly making some noise here (5 outta 15 in the trifecta) as i type. May get some value on this one. #6 Magic River (6/1) , I suppose makes some sense here. #10 Mia’s Bobtail (20/1) , Hasn’t been on the turf in a while , but the 3 moves on the lawn Im seeing fit here, long shot chance. #3 Midnight Gem (15/1) , barn kept this filly in jail to run back at this level, a few 3/8’s work during , might get this one more involved early. barn is showing a 37% number, 1st off the claim in 27 chances. #11 Gioielli (6/5) , Pletcher should be able to get this 5 year mare a win this spot. Its rather soft and with Luis aboard, this is your most likely winner.


    If you can afford not to single, I believe the #2 and and #10 have legit chances of blowing up the ticket as many punters will be leaning on the #11 in this sequence to start the late pick 4.


    Race 8


    #1 Super Cute (8/1) , Trying winners for first time, but i might have to include due to my vow not to let this barn beat me. #3 Sweet Mia (8/1) , What has this 3 year old filly done wrong to dismiss here? #4 Four Grands (7/2) , won going away by more than 6 at debut, and the work tab has been fantastic for Mr. Romans, trying winners for the first time. #5 Finding Game (4/1) , Has been giving the freshening since breaking the maiden and shug might have a good one here. Zayas takes over for Javy, beautifully bred for this. #7 Good Credence (6/1) , Manny got a showing on this horse in a 250k stakes races back halloween time. My guess is this barn, might take their time with one on the comeback, and will need this race, but not an easy toss. #8 Four Graces (3/1) , Simply put, clear must include off that debut effort.


    I think you absolutely have to use the 4 and 8 no matter what, but I may toss in the 7 as well . I’ll break my Clement vow and leave the rail horse off the ticket.

    edit : the #5 might be top pick

    Race 9


    #3 Positive Phil (5/2) , has kept some good company as of late, and It seems its time for this 4 year old colt to move past this condition. Please Joel don’t make this one do too much. #5 Youshouldbesolucky (7/2) , Makes a ton of sense underneath, in this 2nd off the layoff attempt. #7 Smell of Roses (9/2) , Is common rival with the top choice but I believe a step below, another logical unders candidate. #8 Dillion Rocks (6/1) , This 4 year old colt, has a ton of back class from last year in New York. Kept plenty of company that would crush these. Finally graduating under paco , maybe the light bulb came on. #4 Crypto Gold (10/1) , Is another with some NY back class trying winners for the first time, but unders only for me.


    So I think the #3 is a clear single here, But I may use the #8 as a saver on the ticket, because Singling Rosario is scary proposition.


    Race 10


    #2 Muskoka Storm (12/1) , Casse/Tyler at price? Just missed on the off the turf event, but they put this one back on the grass anyway, how can you dismiss if anywhere near this number? #3 Irked (10/1) , If this one wins and blows up the ticket, you’ll be kicking yourself. Mott can win off the bench, and been working well. Ran vs much tougher at Saratoga. #6 Caribbean Gold (8/1) , Beaten Favorite on Debut, but number came back strong, pair that with the works since, and you have a very difficult toss. #7 Allegedly Perfect (10/1) , Has the makings that type of horse that spoils many horizitonal plays. Ran 3rd last out off a 7 month layoff, and they tried to get on grass last time. the number fits, with some improved 2nd off the bench. Hector is a damn good pilot for these types. #9 Shared Legacy (6/1) , I think had some chances already, and will be over bet, I might let this one beat me. I’d rather use #10 On the Muscle (6/1) , Stidham / Bravo team up for this 2nd off the layoff attempt. They tried winners right off the bench, hard to dismiss. #11 R Man Joe (9/5) , Has done the same thing in all 3 races to date, identical running lines. All depends how much Jaramillo has to use this horse to crossover and make the early lead. Georgina Baxter did a great job moving this one up to 75k stakes race and cash that big check last out.


    The 11 is must use, but depending on ticket size, I’d like to include the 2,3,6,7,10

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    Clone to the horse forum please

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    Your blocked bro

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    What you guys think?

    im really liking the late sequence

    gotta attack it on spread tickets, tho

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    Can I go to Gulfstream in person to wager?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Can I go to Gulfstream in person to wager?
    This fake account I’m done with

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    R1- Many choices in this one. Early p5 not easy with this one to start off.

    #1- Joe Benjamin- Saving trip from rail, 3rd start of cycle, improving each time, blinkers off
    #2- Winning factor- Fits here, pace could fit with him, short price for a jockey who has 4 wins out of 144 start on the year
    #3- Bebeau- Davis for Saez, improves each time, drops in class
    #6- Traceability- Rosario rode better today, needs to ride this one closer to pace, drops in class, Mott trainer
    #8-Power- Drops, McPeek with Tyler for a price, needs to show more but could
    #10- Castillete- Longshot but has a chance, jockey upgrade, show horse just came back to win

    R2- Not a good feel.

    #3- Dardanellos- 3rd off layoff, better jockey, improvement between last two starts (last time beat #1, who could make improvment in this race)
    #4- Silver Maker- Saez w/Pletcher, no value, expensive horse down at this level, tread carefully
    #5- King of the North- Fresh blood, against this field, why not?
    #6- Proud Country- Turf to dirt trainer 3 out of 8, Landeros 2 wins today, longshot but some things to consider
    #9- Hail Michigan- Fits here, Tagg 3 for 10 turf to dirt, Paco, 3rd off layoff

    R3- Saez or the class droppers.

    #2- Donder N Blitzen- Saez stays for two in a row try vs. same level
    #3- Days of Spring- Drops in level, both wins at this level or lower, fits.
    #4- Baesaichi- New barn, Tyler stays on, I'm intrigued.
    #5- Lady Noguez- In between the #2 and #4 last time, has a chance if clean trip, more value, came at the end last time w/familiarity w/ Meneses
    #6- Sayyid Al Hurra- Will appreciate drop, have best value, Motion has Maragh (meh)
    #7- Miss My Macho- Longshot, faced winners first time out last time didn't go well, winning jockey back on

    R4- Many options #3/5 the most, #8 is intriguing.

    #1- Miss Adventure- Turf to dirt, last race Lady Panda came back to win twice(turf though) this horse has some dirt pedigree, gotta be ready from gate
    #2- Teenage Kicks- Drops in class, Rosario aboard, prefer others
    #3- Carolyn's Smile- Blinkers removed, good effort off 8 month layoff, Tyler back on, good chance
    #5- Bird Song- Will go off as favorite, Saez stays on for Casse, drops in class second off layoff looks ready
    #7- Quiet Company- Drops in class, second off layoff, has the speed and good speed jockey
    #8- Commanding Lady- Tough trip last out, second off layoff, can stalk but will need to improve, decent AM workouts, longshot but why not

    R5-

    #1- Algodonal- If breaks out well and gets the lead watchout, Maragh is on many I like so far..concerning, maybe it's his day tomorrow. Improvement between starts, 3rd off layoff
    #2- La In- Better jockey, Back to mile after non winners of two liftime victory, 3-2-0-0 at this distance, 5-2-0-2 at GP
    #5- Goregous Gray- Been away for 3 months, Weaver hot w/hot jockey at a price makes sense
    #6- Feature Creature- Finished behind #1 last time out, trainer jockey 2 for 3 last 3 starts together, 2nd off 45-180 days 43% trainer, things to like with Saez and the drop

    R6-10---Not enough time this AM to do detailed versions.

    R6- 1,2,4,6
    R7- 1,2,5,6,10,11
    R8- 1,4,5,7,8
    R9- 3,4,5,7,8
    R10- 2,3,6,7,9,10,11
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    Thanks jelly

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    I'm just going to keep updating, might do a couple more tonight, will do rest tomorrow AM.

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    Race 3...Pretty evenly matched group here, many who have faced each other in recent races. The one I like is #5 Lady Noguez. Added blinkers 3 back and has been slowly improving with each race since just missing last time out losing by a neck to #2 Donder ‘n Blitzen, who will probably vie for favoritism with #3 Days of Spring, who finished 4 lengths ahead of Lady Noguez 2 back. Gets a better post position than last time out and if she takes another step forward, has a great chance at a decent price.

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    Race 4...#5 Bird Map owns the highest beyer figure in the field with her 4th place finish in her 3 year old debut but that was 2 months ago. One of the many droppers and gets a switch to Saez, so will be dangerous. #3 Carolyn’s Smile and #7 Quiet Company are 2 other droppers that should be in the mix but I have issues with both. Carolyns Smile started on dirt but then a switch to turf and add blinkers which resulted in a 222 day layoff. Back to dirt in return with the blinkers and a very good run finishing just behind a next out winner. Now they take the blinkers off again and drop in class. #7 Quiet Company ran some very good races as a 2 year old on dirt, grass and off tracks, but then took over a year off before returning in a dirt sprint in December and ran 6th but then took another 3 months off before returning on turf last month. Just seems like issues and lots of searching for the right combo with both these horses.

    Im looking to the rail here with a turf to dirt angle. #1 Miss Adventure has improved with each race, all on the turf and now switches to the dirt and cuts back from route races after a brief freshening. By Street Sense, out of a Birdstone mare, she should handle the dirt. The rail isn’t a concern since she will be coming from well off pace. Should get some pace to run into.

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    Thanks for the write ups fellas

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    Just took a glance at the program! WOW that Pletcher $800,000 yearling buy Silver Maker in second. have you ever seen a 800K buy drop to bottom maiden after 2 starts? Speed Figs fit with this group But Man I think u have to toss @ what 2/5 odds

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    70% of races all tracks won non favorites which means the unexpected

    Doing something dumb or playing numbers gets you big scores

    Reading form depletes your bankroll

    It is why I am head moderator horse racing

    Best of luck today

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    70% of races all tracks won non favorites which means the unexpected

    Doing something dumb or playing numbers gets you big scores

    Reading form depletes your bankroll

    It is why I am head moderator horse racing

    Best of luck today
    Pick out of a fuckin hat, told you that many times.

    Same results

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    Just took a glance at the program! WOW that Pletcher $800,000 yearling buy Silver Maker in second. have you ever seen a 800K buy drop to bottom maiden after 2 starts? Speed Figs fit with this group But Man I think u have to toss @ what 2/5 odds
    Yeah man that’s a painful drop

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    Just took a glance at the program! WOW that Pletcher $800,000 yearling buy Silver Maker in second. have you ever seen a 800K buy drop to bottom maiden after 2 starts? Speed Figs fit with this group But Man I think u have to toss @ what 2/5 odds

    probably be 1-9 and romp.. pletcher unreal dropping into maiden claimers.. $800k to repole is like a buying a pair of jeans to the average guy.. he probably hates to look at that horse who's probably worth 2-3x what he's up for sale for today.. that last race as bad as it looks crushes this field

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    Gentlemen, thanks for the effort.....

    I'm a harness guy myself so a bit off my feed on these.

    The only thing a standardbred and thoroughbred have in common are 4 legs and love of sweet feed ..lol

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    i wish i understood wtf you guys are writing in here. i know there is tons of good info just looks like a foreign language to me

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    1. 13,14
    2. 13,14,15,16
    3. 2,8
    7. 3,13,14
    8. 7
    10. 12
    Scratches

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    Quote Originally Posted by allabout the $$$ View Post
    i wish i understood wtf you guys are writing in here. i know there is tons of good info just looks like a foreign language to me
    Lol horse jargon

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    Quote Originally Posted by 53 defense View Post
    Gentlemen, thanks for the effort.....

    I'm a harness guy myself so a bit off my feed on these.

    The only thing a standardbred and thoroughbred have in common are 4 legs and love of sweet feed ..lol
    Welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    70% of races all tracks won non favorites which means the unexpected

    Doing something dumb or playing numbers gets you big scores

    Reading form depletes your bankroll

    It is why I am head moderator horse racing

    Best of luck today
    then go away from here back to Salon. I think most in here would agree. I would much rather ride with the insight from our great posters in the horse forum then some random chance.....Now go away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    probably be 1-9 and romp.. pletcher unreal dropping into maiden claimers.. $800k to repole is like a buying a pair of jeans to the average guy.. he probably hates to look at that horse who's probably worth 2-3x what he's up for sale for today.. that last race as bad as it looks crushes this field
    It's a 10+ way shake though right in the claiming box today? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    It's a 10+ way shake though right in the claiming box today? LOL

    wouldn't be surprised.. probably a minus show pool

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    Race6... should be a quick pace up front with #1 Take Charge Dude, #2 Travy Boy and #5 Jersey Joe B all looking to get to the front here. The quick pace will set it up for the 2 old timers in this group, #4 Phish Fan and #7 Starship Apollo. Both have the tactical speed to get in good position behind the speed and I think one of these 2 , if not both, are set for top performances for their new trainers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    wouldn't be surprised.. probably a minus show pool
    really? That's scary.....he is the type that wins by a city block or gets pulled up on backside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    really? That's scary.....he is the type that wins by a city block or gets pulled up on backside.

    I just think those connections aren't(or less likely) going to enter a horse that could potentially hurt himself running because he's unsound.. if 800k a pair of jeans, $12.5k a cup of coffee.. boy am I going to take heat if he's out of the money lol

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    str if you see this like your opinion

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    lkid i'm sorry if we're getting a little too deep on this in your thread

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    Nah its a community thread

    Love it

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    OK great.. thanks

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    Passing r1

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