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    Cal expo cancelled by health department

    April 1st racing card was called off prior to first post time by the health board this afternoon. Cal expo was the lone harness meeting standing. No word yet if this a one day thing. Or more. Stay tuned.

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    I’m sure it’s for 2 weeks minimum

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    we are fukked

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    Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iona View Post
    Sad.
    The closing of Cal-Expo isn't sad at all. it's a shitty track with corrupt cheating horsemen, cheap horses, uncompetitive racing, small fields, and no handle.

    Also they milk the post time clock to the point that 0 minutes to post actually means its still at least 5 minutes until they are called to the post.

    The only other tracks that compare in terms of shittyness are Monticello Raceway and Freehold.

    I'm glad that shithole Cal-Ex has been shitcanned.
    Last edited by icon; 04-01-20 at 07:32 PM.

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    The post time issue is true of all Harness Tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkwind View Post
    The post time issue is true of all Harness Tracks.
    Some are worse than others. Yonkers used to be bad as well but they changed recently. Cal-Ex is unbearable.

    the only good harness tracks are:

    1 Woodbine/Mohawk
    2 Meadowlands
    3 Hoosier

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    favs won there big time yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    The closing of Cal-Expo isn't sad at all. it's a shitty track with corrupt cheating horsemen, cheap horses, uncompetitive racing and no handle.

    Also they milk the post time clock to the point that 0 minutes to post actually means its still at least 5 minutes until they are called to the post.

    The only other track that compares in terms of shittyness is Monticello Raceway.

    I'm glad that shithole Cal-Ex has been shitcanned.
    it was the bottom of the barrel no doubt but it was the only one in the barrel in north america.

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    it's sad, at least for me, that Tampa / Golden Gate / Gulfstream may be next - very shortly.

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    lol the least of our worries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iona View Post
    it's sad, at least for me, that Tampa / Golden Gate / Gulfstream may be next - very shortly.
    Agree completely. Those tracks have big purses, big pools, competitive racing and nice payouts.

    Thoroughbreds > Standarbreds

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    The closing of Cal-Expo isn't sad at all. it's a shitty track with corrupt cheating horsemen, cheap horses, uncompetitive racing, small fields, and no handle.

    Also they milk the post time clock to the point that 0 minutes to post actually means its still at least 5 minutes until they are called to the post.

    The only other tracks that compare in terms of shittyness are Monticello Raceway and Freehold.

    I'm glad that shithole Cal-Ex has been shitcanned.
    Thank you! Cal expo some of the worst and shadiest cheats out there! Growing up around the Illinois harness racing scene and meeting many trainers/owners/insiders...almost all agreed cal expo was the worst! And that's saying a lot because Hoosier park which was a stones throw away from most of those guys was really fkng shady.

    Oosting was a meet leader at Balmoral and maywood constantly, but he was also a drunk. One night he got a DUI from a state trooper who I hung out with at the local otb...dude let oosting go with a warning...needless to say 3 days later we both had a 16-1 shot at Hoosier(or maybe Indiana downs, icr) ridden by Jason dillander for a really nice score who drew off by like 10 lengths lol...

    Back to Cal tho, the plano brothers, stevey wiseman, Geno vallandingham, Ed Hensley, Jimmy lackey...those guys were shady asf

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    Missed where anyone said they were worried and why would anyone worry it only causes undue stress which could add to health issues if you did get sick. And being worried does absolutely no good take the precautions that you should and weather the storm.
    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    lol the least of our worries

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    Or Florida tracks. Gulfstream calls riders up at 0 MTP.

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkwind View Post
    The post time issue is true of all Harness Tracks.

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    I feel like Cal-expo has a lot of potential, but they do basically no advertising for it. Only time I see any adds for that venue is for the Gun show and the Wedding Gown show....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnySavage View Post
    Or Florida tracks. Gulfstream calls riders up at 0 MTP.
    Which sucks because if your playing online, your book may close while their still in the post parade. It’s costed me money repeatedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    Some are worse than others. Yonkers used to be bad as well but they changed recently. Cal-Ex is unbearable.

    the only good harness tracks are:

    1 Woodbine/Mohawk
    2 Meadowlands
    3 Hoosier
    Hoosier?
    Why Hoosier, curious?

    I like it, but I like most harness tracks, anyways.

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    Honestly, Cal-Expo was the track I bet because everybody else is done for the day.
    In the casino, still want free drinks. Must bet horses to keep the drinks coming.
    They have a $0.20 pick 4 can kill the time with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eidolon View Post
    I feel like Cal-expo has a lot of potential, but they do basically no advertising for it. Only time I see any adds for that venue is for the Gun show and the Wedding Gown show....
    They look pretty low-budget.
    I thought I saw handicapper on their broadcast Skype their analysis in their pajamas

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaWoj View Post
    Thank you! Cal expo some of the worst and shadiest cheats out there! Growing up around the Illinois harness racing scene and meeting many trainers/owners/insiders...almost all agreed cal expo was the worst! And that's saying a lot because Hoosier park which was a stones throw away from most of those guys was really fkng shady.

    Oosting was a meet leader at Balmoral and maywood constantly, but he was also a drunk. One night he got a DUI from a state trooper who I hung out with at the local otb...dude let oosting go with a warning...needless to say 3 days later we both had a 16-1 shot at Hoosier(or maybe Indiana downs, icr) ridden by Jason dillander for a really nice score who drew off by like 10 lengths lol...

    Back to Cal tho, the plano brothers, stevey wiseman, Geno vallandingham, Ed Hensley, Jimmy lackey...those guys were shady asf
    That's a neat story

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    Remember this scandal years back? Cal Expo has always been so scummy that it wasn't even surprising. Still, betting Cal Expo alongside Los Al at night is a timeless tradition.

    Agents from the state attorney general's office arrested drivers

    Todd Ratchford and Jason Maier between races at Cal Expo on
    Thursday night.

    Jason Maier, 24, won the race. Authorities say his brother,
    Daniel, bribed Burt and Ratchford to hold back their horses. Burt
    finished fourth and Ratchford last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnySavage View Post
    Remember this scandal years back? Cal Expo has always been so scummy that it wasn't even surprising. Still, betting Cal Expo alongside Los Al at night is a timeless tradition.

    Agents from the state attorney general's office arrested drivers

    Todd Ratchford and Jason Maier between races at Cal Expo on
    Thursday night.

    Jason Maier, 24, won the race. Authorities say his brother,
    Daniel, bribed Burt and Ratchford to hold back their horses. Burt
    finished fourth and Ratchford last.

    Had no idea their was this much drama at this track.
    This is the most I think I will ever hear, ever about thius track.

    Seriously, when I'm betting horses at the Stations, I think I'm the only one, that is betting this track when it's running.
    The other customers in the casinos are just waiting for their late sports games in progress.

    I've never heard anybody talk about that track, till tonight.
    This is making me laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaWoj View Post
    Thank you! Cal expo some of the worst and shadiest cheats out there! Growing up around the Illinois harness racing scene and meeting many trainers/owners/insiders...almost all agreed cal expo was the worst! And that's saying a lot because Hoosier park which was a stones throw away from most of those guys was really fkng shady.

    Oosting was a meet leader at Balmoral and maywood constantly, but he was also a drunk. One night he got a DUI from a state trooper who I hung out with at the local otb...dude let oosting go with a warning...needless to say 3 days later we both had a 16-1 shot at Hoosier(or maybe Indiana downs, icr) ridden by Jason dillander for a really nice score who drew off by like 10 lengths lol...

    Back to Cal tho, the plano brothers, stevey wiseman, Geno vallandingham, Ed Hensley, Jimmy lackey...those guys were shady asf
    I remeber Ed Hensley when he was driving in Vancouver at Cloverdale Raceway in 1993/94. I though he was GREAT.
    Lost track of him over the years and saw he ended up at Cal -Ex, what a waste.

    Hensley is now full time on the Ontario circuit, Woodbine - Mohawk Park, Flamboro, Georgian Downs, Grand River Raceway etc.
    I think he is still a remendous driver and I am a fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrell74 View Post
    Hoosier?
    Why Hoosier, curious?

    I like it, but I like most harness tracks, anyways.
    Racing quality appears legit from my perspective. I like the 7/8th mile tracks best. Hoosier has some big races and big purses. Big purses = better calibre horses.

    Meadowlands was the top harness track for decades but has tailed off and Woodbine Mohawk Park racing is just as good if not better most nights, IMO.

    I prefer thoroughbreds but I also like the smaller Ontario tracks for harness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    Racing quality appears legit from my perspective. I like the 7/8th mile tracks best. Hoosier has some big races and big purses. Big purses = better calibre horses.

    Meadowlands was the top harness track for decades but has tailed off and Woodbine Mohawk Park racing is just as good if not better most nights, IMO.

    I prefer thoroughbreds but I also like the smaller Ontario tracks for harness.
    I like Mohawk best, personally. Free programs, only one I know that does that.
    I usually work during Meadowlands, haven't got into it
    Hoosier, I tail Emily Gaskin

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    Got Corona? Everything is cancelled now..

    Lock down even in the South now come April 4th....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thezbar View Post
    April 1st racing card was called off prior to first post time by the health board this afternoon. Cal expo was the lone harness meeting standing. No word yet if this a one day thing. Or more. Stay tuned.
    Santa Anita was closed by the health dept. as well and they're done for at least the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrell74 View Post
    I like Mohawk best, personally. Free programs, only one I know that does that.
    I usually work during Meadowlands, haven't got into it
    Hoosier, I tail Emily Gaskin
    Every Canadian harness track offers free programs. I mostly bet Mohawk as its my favorite harness track too.
    I grew up in Ontario and followed all the racing from the 80's until now so I'm familiar with most trainers, owners etc.

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    Luke plano wins,alot at cal expo. 2 trainers from there were huge juicers, pena and gilbert herrera. Both of those trainers moved to east coast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    Luke plano wins,alot at cal expo. 2 trainers from there were huge juicers, pena and gilbert herrera. Both of those trainers moved to east coast.
    Gilbert Garcia Herrera used to ride too.

    But like I said, the whole sport is fixed. On the Illinois scene Joe Anderson was one of the worst. Whenever his son Ryan was riding I used to call it 'joe juice'. Paul Blumenfeld too (he made is way out to Yonkers). Eric Ledford and his father were banned indefinitely after moving out to the big M. Sooooo many more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    Every Canadian harness track offers free programs. I mostly bet Mohawk as its my favorite harness track too.
    I grew up in Ontario and followed all the racing from the 80's until now so I'm familiar with most trainers, owners etc.
    Who’s Emily Gaskin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BT RayRay View Post
    Who’s Emily Gaskin?
    She does the Hoosier broadcast

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    Every Canadian harness track offers free programs. I mostly bet Mohawk as its my favorite harness track too.
    I grew up in Ontario and followed all the racing from the 80's until now so I'm familiar with most trainers, owners etc.
    Interesting
    I can only get Woodbine/Mohawk in Vegas. Only Canadian track available.

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