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    Wisconsin RB Jonathan Taylor 🔢

    I haven't seen one NFL mock draft where this guy is taken in the 1st round.

    Being overlooked/underrated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    I haven't seen one NFL mock draft where this guy is taken in the 1st round.

    Being overlooked/underrated?
    The little Wisconsin RB who was a bust with the Vikings could scare people away from Taylor. He had more speed and burst than Taylor and couldn't stay healthy or catch the ball out of the backfield. Michael Bennett is his name I think.
    Last edited by seaborneq; 03-01-20 at 10:27 AM.

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    Wisconsin always has such a great line that their RB's are very successful

    also they run their RB's into the ground

    its a real thing that NFL teams will look at how many career carried a running back has, because their professional shelf life is typically already SOOOOO short that having a ton of carries in college could mean even if they are very talented/skilled they might only have 1-3 years before they start breaking down or slowing down.

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    When watching him I just feel he's elite.

    Also the fastest RB among the top-tier in the draft I believe

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    Monte ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    I haven't seen one NFL mock draft where this guy is taken in the 1st round.

    Being overlooked/underrated?

    ever hear f archie griffin? great college mediocre pro.

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    I would agree that it's the wear and tear. Teams don't want to invest a high pick for only a few years of production. I would take him in the 2nd though.

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    Michael Bennett was far from a bust

    Had a 1300 yard season and a pro bowl w mn

    Some reason switched to Moe William's midway thru 03 season even w Bennett averaging 5 ypc

    Never understood that move....

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    Diamond dozen

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    I have seen Georgia's Swift as high as #18 overall, but no other RB cracks the first round. Big lumbering RB's are not in style in the NFL. RB's had better be able to catch the ball. RB's can be a good investment Get what you can out of them for 3 or 4 years and then cut them loose.

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    issue is that he doesnt catch the football, plus most teams need other positions over a rb. He will be taken in middle of round 2

    Tampa really likes him as well as texans

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    Running a 4.39 40 at the combine will surely help his cause.

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    just not a RB league unless one of a very few. nice early 2nd round pick and the speed is the reason.
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    A lot of starting NFL rb r late rounders or even undrafted

    Teams reluctant to burn a first rounder on one

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Michael Bennett was far from a bust

    Had a 1300 yard season and a pro bowl w mn

    Some reason switched to Moe William's midway thru 03 season even w Bennett averaging 5 ypc

    Never understood that move....
    NFL career statistics
    Year Team Games Rushing Receiving
    G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
    2001 MIN 13 13 172 682 4.0 31 2 29 226 7.8 80 1
    2002 MIN 16 16 255 1,296 5.1 85 5 37 351 9.5 45 1
    2003 MIN 8 7 90 447 5.0 28 1 12 132 11.0 40 0
    2004 MIN 11 7 70 276 3.9 25 1 21 207 9.9 38 1
    2005 MIN 16 6 126 473 3.8 61 3 27 124 4.6 20 2
    2006 KC 11 0 36 200 5.6 41 0 9 77 8.6 14 0
    2007 KC 6 0 20 52 2.6 12 0 10 47 4.7 9 0
    2007 TB 8 1 41 189 4.6 28 1 5 54 10.8 23 1
    2008 TB 5 0 7 12 1.7 4 0 1 2 2.0 2 0
    2008 SD 2 0 0 0 – 0 0 0 0 – 0 0
    2009 SD 6 0 23 65 2.8 14 0 6 65 10.8 33 0
    2010 OAK 7 0 2 11 5.5 6 0 2 9 4.5 6 0
    Career 109 50 842 3,703 4.4 85 13 159 1,294 8.1 80 6[5]

    That is the very definition of a bust from a 1st round running back. If you can't get 1,000 yards consistently or keep the starting job and time sharing with another running back then you are indeed a bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    I haven't seen one NFL mock draft where this guy is taken in the 1st round.

    Being overlooked/underrated?
    too many miles on his legs

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    NFL career statistics
    Year Team Games Rushing Receiving
    G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
    2001 MIN 13 13 172 682 4.0 31 2 29 226 7.8 80 1
    2002 MIN 16 16 255 1,296 5.1 85 5 37 351 9.5 45 1
    2003 MIN 8 7 90 447 5.0 28 1 12 132 11.0 40 0
    2004 MIN 11 7 70 276 3.9 25 1 21 207 9.9 38 1
    2005 MIN 16 6 126 473 3.8 61 3 27 124 4.6 20 2
    2006 KC 11 0 36 200 5.6 41 0 9 77 8.6 14 0
    2007 KC 6 0 20 52 2.6 12 0 10 47 4.7 9 0
    2007 TB 8 1 41 189 4.6 28 1 5 54 10.8 23 1
    2008 TB 5 0 7 12 1.7 4 0 1 2 2.0 2 0
    2008 SD 2 0 0 0 – 0 0 0 0 – 0 0
    2009 SD 6 0 23 65 2.8 14 0 6 65 10.8 33 0
    2010 OAK 7 0 2 11 5.5 6 0 2 9 4.5 6 0
    Career 109 50 842 3,703 4.4 85 13 159 1,294 8.1 80 6[5]

    That is the very definition of a bust from a 1st round running back. If you can't get 1,000 yards consistently or keep the starting job and time sharing with another running back then you are indeed a bust.
    One good season for the Vikings and he is a HOFer in fatty's book

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    Ron Dayne....Wiskie seems to be a little risky when it comes to rb's.Great college backs,not so much in NFL

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    Better off investing in top tier linemen in the first round. Elite offensive linemen seem to last forever and are nearly impossible to acquire
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    I have seen Georgia's Swift as high as #18 overall, but no other RB cracks the first round. Big lumbering RB's are not in style in the NFL. RB's had better be able to catch the ball. RB's can be a good investment Get what you can out of them for 3 or 4 years and then cut them loose.
    Derrick henry disagrees
    as usual you know NOTHING big daddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    One good season for the Vikings and he is a HOFer in fatty's book
    LOL

    No but I remember the transition to Moe Williams. Bennett was still averaging 4.5+ per carry. It was a topic here on local sports shows because Moe was in Dauntes click (on the love boat later)

    Tice had no control over those teams....Bennett could play

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    LOL

    No but I remember the transition to Moe Williams. Bennett was still averaging 4.5+ per carry. It was a topic here on local sports shows because Moe was in Dauntes click (on the love boat later)

    Tice had no control over those teams....Bennett could play
    Tice was a joke. Bennett was solid for the Vikings and opted out after his rookie contract.

    Mo William was a daily topic on KFAN (local sports radio) during football season.

    Let's face it. It's really not a running back league any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    LOL

    No but I remember the transition to Moe Williams. Bennett was still averaging 4.5+ per carry. It was a topic here on local sports shows because Moe was in Dauntes click (on the love boat later)

    Tice had no control over those teams....Bennett could play
    I remember reading that Tice hit a pick 6 at the track for over 100k years back

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    he is pretty good running back

    I think he will have a solid career

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    I remember reading that Tice hit a pick 6 at the track for over 100k years back
    True statement. He hit the pick 6 at Canterbury Park racetrack in Shakopee, Mn.

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    There are a lot of very good rbs in this draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    There are a lot of very good rbs in this draft.


    Yeah you're right

    We need an upgrade at the position in Tampa so I guess I'm just hoping he lands there somehow

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    Quote Originally Posted by tucks View Post
    Better off investing in top tier linemen in the first round. Elite offensive linemen seem to last forever and are nearly impossible to acquire
    So true

    Good o linemen never hit the market it seems

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    Swift and Taylor are the top two RB's in the draft.
    Reason why you don't see both of them in the top twenty overall is because this years draft is loaded with tackles (both defensive and offensive)
    There could be as many as eight tackles on both ends of the ball drafted in the first round. Hell, you might see four tackles go in the first ten picks starting with the Giants.
    Couple that with the fact you may see four corners go in the first round.
    That's 12 picks out of 32 right there.
    Plus the NFL RB position isn't really the premium skill set position it once was.
    Take away McCaffery, Elliot, Barkley, and Henry who's elite these days?
    Chew on this, there were only five RB's last season that averaged over 80 yards per game rushing.
    That's it, five.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Swift and Taylor are the top two RB's in the draft.
    Reason why you don't see both of them in the top twenty overall is because this years draft is loaded with tackles (both defensive and offensive)
    There could be as many as eight tackles on both ends of the ball drafted in the first round. Hell, you might see four tackles go in the first ten picks starting with the Giants.
    Couple that with the fact you may see four corners go in the first round.
    That's 12 picks out of 32 right there.
    Plus the NFL RB position isn't really the premium skill set position it once was.
    Take away McCaffery, Elliot, Barkley, and Henry who's elite these days?
    Chew on this, there were only five RB's last season that averaged over 80 yards per game rushing.
    That's it, five.

    Truth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Yeah you're right

    We need an upgrade at the position in Tampa so I guess I'm just hoping he lands there somehow
    I think They can grab one or two in middle of draft. Maybe they go after Drake in fa. Howard and Riddick are decent low budget guys that could fit into Arians’s offense.

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