[RoyBacon]

I don't think Biden wins anything. I think he will lose SC and drop out. His image is completely damaged. I say this as an european who doesn't follow american corporate media.

I think I'm starting to agree with that. He probably has to go through Super Tuesday because of donors. He would probably love to drop out now if he could.

[thechaoz]

Polls don't mean shit

Ya the last election proved this. I mean, she did win by 3.5 million votes, but Dump got the turnout in ALL the key swing states. Dems got lazy with the "75 % chance of winning" polling and news.

Make no mistake, Agent Orange's turnout will be huge again. The angry white man vote is real.

Regardless, this is concerning the Dem primaries.

Bernie is on a roll and I'd be suprised if anyone took it down.

I'm not sure why the fruit came out of nowhere. He's not special, his policies aren't innovative, his story isn't anything special.

I think it has to do with how he looks. The only "handsome white man" some Dems think can beat the prez.

[thechaoz]

Biden never won a dem. primary, so i agree

Biden and Warren are finished. The Dems are sick and tired of playing "nice".

Trump has gone nuclear and beyond, so it's time to go the complete opposite way.

If they lose, fine. Playing nice and getting some moderate in like Biden is just plugging gum into a leaky damn.

It's all or nothing. "No more Mr. Nice guy if you will".

Will it lose? Probably. America has shown it's true colors under Trump. We've made a lot less progress then we thought.

BOL on your Wagers.

[JIBBBY]

[khicks26]

Ya the last election proved this. I mean, she did win by 3.5 million votes, but Dump got the turnout in ALL the key swing states. Dems got lazy with the "75 % chance of winning" polling and news.

Make no mistake, Agent Orange's turnout will be huge again. The angry white man vote is real.

Regardless, this is concerning the Dem primaries.

Bernie is on a roll and I'd be suprised if anyone took it down.

I'm not sure why the fruit came out of nowhere. He's not special, his policies aren't innovative, his story isn't anything special.

I think it has to do with how he looks. The only "handsome white man" some Dems think can beat the prez.

Really dude? I think he looks like this guy.

[lakerboy]

Hes a Democratic socialist. He had to run as a Democrat because if he doesn't, his chances of winning are significantly lower because the voting public only see red and blue.

No he is a communist. Even James Carville called him one. The thing is when people think of communism they think of Stalin and Castro. All his policies are State run initiatives which are the hallmarks of communism.

I get your point about the party thing but it's just dumb that an independent is running for the Democratic party nomination.

[asiagambler]

Buttigieg looks like Brad Stevens

[TheGuesser]

The culinary union is handing out flyers warning their people not to vote for Sanders in Nevada as of yesterday. Could be some concern

This is why betting against Bernie in Nevada is a decent bet. That union is very powerful, and this is a Caucus state, where activists rule the day, not the everyday voter. I don't know who will benefit from this, probably Mayor Pete, or possibly Amy, since Biden is Toast. But betting against the favorite a good bet and probably why the odds of someone beating Bernie in NV have changed so much at 5D.

[thomorino]

Another worthless thread that belongs in the junkyard... lol

Fukk you Morino

Get lost morons

[goduke]

No he is a communist. Even James Carville called him one. The thing is when people think of communism they think of Stalin and Castro. All his policies are State run initiatives which are the hallmarks of communism.

I get your point about the party thing but it's just dumb that an independent is running for the Democratic party nomination.

Now what Carville says we take as the law? Come on you’re smarter than this. I’m all for Bernie if it means we keep tearing up the two party system. Presidents are figure heads, the two party system is what our society should be focused on. They are the real problem. Look long term solution not short term

[Booya711]

Fuk you Morino

[jjgold]

People have to be losers to vote
For sanders

It just shows how new generation is fukked

[RoyBacon]

No he is a communist. Even James Carville called him one. The thing is when people think of communism they think of Stalin and Castro. All his policies are State run initiatives which are the hallmarks of communism.

I get your point about the party thing but it's just dumb that an independent is running for the Democratic party nomination.

Sanders was married in Moscow and honeymooned there. In this era of Russia! Russia Russia! that's quite odd. Sanders has a lot of infamous material that is so harsh even the primary Dems won't repeat it but Trump sure will. I like this one; "People in Venezuela have it better than the people of the US" - Sanders 1999

[thomorino]

Fuk you Morino

Get lost parasite.

[thomorino]

It looks like Biden is collapsing, another bad public showing on the view.

[JIBBBY]

People have to be losers to vote
For sanders

It just shows how new generation is fukked

New generation of kids are spoiled, lazy and they all want freebies and handouts. Bernie is offering them that with Socialism.

I say take away their smart phones and give em all one year hard labor in the pen until they wake up and learn a work eithic! Lock em up!

[lakerboy]

Sanders was married in Moscow and honeymooned there. In this era of Russia! Russia Russia! that's quite odd. Sanders has a lot of infamous material that is so harsh even the primary Dems won't repeat it but Trump sure will. I like this one; "People in Venezuela have it better than the people of the US" - Sanders 1999

I've seen some of his videos. I'm sure he has a che Guevara t-shirt somewhere.

[Sam Odom]

"I am a socialist."

[thetrinity]

Best thing for the D is a Bernie win IMO, in primaries of course

[JIBBBY]

Bernie could conceivably win the black vote also.

https://www.newsweek.com/majority-bl...ection-1482343

[Sam Odom]

Bernie is popular with most anyone with his/her hand out looking for something 'FREE'

[JIBBBY]

Huck on Bernie free college.. This great and spot on..

https://www.youtube.com/embed/UYToz2ePoyY

[Headsterx]

Bernie could conceivably win the black vote also.

https://www.newsweek.com/majority-bl...ection-1482343

The jokes just keep coming here... Lol

[RiverDog21]

Trump 2020 bitches

[khicks26]

[Sam Odom]

Is Joseph McCarthy running for Prez ?

[khicks26]

Is Joseph McCarthy running for Prez ?

LOL In a way, he's the president.


Roy Cohn

American Lawyer
Roy Marcus Cohn was an American lawyer best known for being Senator Joseph McCarthy's chief counsel during the Army–McCarthy hearings in 1954, for assisting with McCarthy's investigations of suspected communists, as a top political fixer, and for being Donald Trump's personal lawyer.

[thomorino]

The latest Nevada poll is out Bernie with a 7 point lead.

[vivaporto]

No he is a communist. Even James Carville called him one. The thing is when people think of communism they think of Stalin and Castro. All his policies are State run initiatives which are the hallmarks of communism.

I get your point about the party thing but it's just dumb that an independent is running for the Democratic party nomination.

If sanders runs as independent, Trump win in a mega land slide because the democratic votes will get divided between the sanders supporters and the dems that don't support the sand. If sanders run dem, the dems vote will stay united and most dems who don't like sanders would still vote for him...some will sit out.

If you haven't noticed Trumps campaign management is trying very hard to divide the dem voters by pitting sanders supporters against the other dem voters. Trump thinks that sanders will be easy to beat because he is not part of the establishment and won't have much of a corporate media support. However, if DNC refuses to let sanders win the nomination through rigged system, whoever wins will be heavily backed by all media. So trump's team is already doing damage control and showing some sympathy to sanders side with the hope of making sanders supporters stay home during the main election if sanders doesn't win nomination. Trump is however underestimating his chance against Sanders. If sanders wins nomination, its 50-50 for presidency and sanders has the best chance of beating trump running through dem party. Trump will crush everyone else in the field because 1. its come down to bloom-butt-klaw if not sanders and all 3 are pretty weak nation wide 2. trump will succeed with the strategy pitting sanders voters against the rest and most sanders voters will sit home in the main election isntead of voting another candidate.

[jjgold]

Sanders backround is a disgrace

[Art Vandelay]

Huck on Bernie free college.. This great and spot on..

https://www.youtube.com/embed/UYToz2ePoyY

So true - Bernie is the biggest assclown of the bunch! Huck nailed it, not complicated...

[EmpireMaker]

Actually it is still a big story in NV. Culinary going after Sanders full blast right now.

Because Harry Reid and the Clinton machine are pushing the story. Amprog put it in motion they are run by CAP and Neera Tanden who works directly for HRC and secondarily for the DNC. They did use the same play with the same union in 2016 to save HRC from getting smoked in the NV Primary.

[EmpireMaker]

Essentially what Bernie is proposing is a very similar system to the Nordic Model:

The Nordic model has been characterised as follows:^[10]

• An elaborate social safety net, in addition to public services such as free education and universal healthcare^[10] in a largely tax-funded system.^[11]
• Strong property rights, contract enforcement and overall ease of doing business.^[12]
• Public pension plans.^[10]
• Free trade combined with collective risk sharing (social programmes and labour market institutions) which has provided a form of protection against the risks associated with economic openness.^[10]
• Little product market regulation. Nordic countries rank very high in product market freedom according to OECD rankings.^[10]
• Low levels of corruption.^[10] In Transparency International's 2015 Corruption Perceptions Index, Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden were ranked among the top 10 least corrupt of the 167 countries evaluated.^[13]
• High percentage of workers belonging to a labour union.^[14] In 2013, labour union density was 88% in Iceland, 69% in Denmark, 67% in Sweden, 66% in Finland and 51% in Norway. In comparison, labour union density was 18% in Germany, 11% in the United States and 8% in France.^[15] The lower union density in Norway is mainly explained by the absence of a Ghent system since 1938. In contrast, Denmark, Finland and Sweden all have union-run unemployment funds.^[16]
• A partnership between employers, trade unions and the government, whereby these social partners negotiate the terms to regulating the workplace among themselves, rather than the terms being imposed by law.^[17][18] Sweden has decentralised wage co-ordination while Finland is ranked the least flexible.^[10] The changing economic conditions have given rise to fear among workers as well as resistance by trade unions in regards to reforms.^[10] At the same time, reforms and favourable economic development seem to have reduced unemployment, which has traditionally been higher. Denmark's Social Democrats managed to push through flexicurity reforms in 1994 and 1996.
• The United Nations World Happiness Reports show that the happiest nations are concentrated in Northern Europe. The Nordics ranked highest on the metrics of real GDP per capita, healthy life expectancy, having someone to count on, perceived freedom to make life choices, generosity and freedom from corruption.^[19] The Nordic countries place in the top 10 of the World Happiness Report 2018, with Finland and Norway taking the top spots.^[20]
• The Nordic countries received the highest ranking for protecting workers rights on the International Trade Union Confederation's 2014 Global Rights Index, with Denmark being the only nation to receive a perfect score.^[21]
• Sweden at 56.6% of GDP, Denmark at 51.7% and Finland at 48.6% reflect very high public spending.^[22] One key reason for public spending is the large number of public employees. These employees work in various fields including education, healthcare and for the government itself. They often have greater job security and make up around a third of the workforce (more than 38% in Denmark). Public spending in social transfers such as unemployment benefits and early-retirement programmes is high. In 2001, the wage-based unemployment benefits were around 90% of wage in Denmark and 80% in Sweden, compared to 75% in the Netherlands and 60% in Germany. The unemployed were also able to receive benefits several years before reductions, compared to quick benefit reduction in other countries.
• Public expenditure for health and education is significantly higher in Denmark, Norway and Sweden in comparison to the OECD average.^[23]
• Overall tax burdens (as a percentage of GDP) are high, with Denmark at 45.9% and both Finland and Sweden at 44.1%.^[24] The Nordic countries have relatively flat tax rates, meaning that even those with medium and low incomes are taxed at relatively high levels.^[25][26]

[EmpireMaker]

George Lakey, author of Viking Economics, asserts that Americans generally misunderstand the nature of the Nordic "welfare state":

Americans imagine that "welfare state" means the U.S. welfare system on steroids. Actually, the Nordics scrapped their American-style welfare system at least 60 years ago, and substituted universal services, which means everyone—rich and poor—gets free higher education, free medical services, free eldercare, etc.^[65]

In his role as economic adviser to Poland and Yugoslavia in their post-socialist transitional period, Jeffrey Sachs noted that the specific forms of Western-style capitalism such as Swedish-style social democracy and Thatcherite liberalism are virtually identical:

The eastern countries must reject any lingering ideas about a "third way", such as a chimerical "market socialism" based on public ownership or worker self-management, and go straight for a western-style market economy. [...] The main debate in economic reform should therefore be about the means of transition, not the ends. Eastern Europe will still argue over the ends: for example, whether to aim for Swedish-style social democracy or Thatcherite liberalism. But that can wait. Sweden and Britain alike have nearly complete private ownership, private financial markets and active labour markets. Eastern Europe today [in 1990] has none of these institutions; for it, the alternative models of Western Europe are almost identical.^[66]

In a speech at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, Danish Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen addressed the American misconception that the Nordic model is a form of socialism, stating: "I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore, I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy".^[67]

[guitarjosh]

Essentially what Bernie is proposing is a very similar system to the Nordic Model:

The Nordic model has been characterised as follows:^[10]

• An elaborate social safety net, in addition to public services such as free education and universal healthcare^[10] in a largely tax-funded system.^[11]
• Strong property rights, contract enforcement and overall ease of doing business.^[12]
• Public pension plans.^[10]
• Free trade combined with collective risk sharing (social programmes and labour market institutions) which has provided a form of protection against the risks associated with economic openness.^[10]
• Little product market regulation. Nordic countries rank very high in product market freedom according to OECD rankings.^[10]
• Low levels of corruption.^[10] In Transparency International's 2015 Corruption Perceptions Index, Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden were ranked among the top 10 least corrupt of the 167 countries evaluated.^[13]
• High percentage of workers belonging to a labour union.^[14] In 2013, labour union density was 88% in Iceland, 69% in Denmark, 67% in Sweden, 66% in Finland and 51% in Norway. In comparison, labour union density was 18% in Germany, 11% in the United States and 8% in France.^[15] The lower union density in Norway is mainly explained by the absence of a Ghent system since 1938. In contrast, Denmark, Finland and Sweden all have union-run unemployment funds.^[16]
• A partnership between employers, trade unions and the government, whereby these social partners negotiate the terms to regulating the workplace among themselves, rather than the terms being imposed by law.^[17][18] Sweden has decentralised wage co-ordination while Finland is ranked the least flexible.^[10] The changing economic conditions have given rise to fear among workers as well as resistance by trade unions in regards to reforms.^[10] At the same time, reforms and favourable economic development seem to have reduced unemployment, which has traditionally been higher. Denmark's Social Democrats managed to push through flexicurity reforms in 1994 and 1996.
• The United Nations World Happiness Reports show that the happiest nations are concentrated in Northern Europe. The Nordics ranked highest on the metrics of real GDP per capita, healthy life expectancy, having someone to count on, perceived freedom to make life choices, generosity and freedom from corruption.^[19] The Nordic countries place in the top 10 of the World Happiness Report 2018, with Finland and Norway taking the top spots.^[20]
• The Nordic countries received the highest ranking for protecting workers rights on the International Trade Union Confederation's 2014 Global Rights Index, with Denmark being the only nation to receive a perfect score.^[21]
• Sweden at 56.6% of GDP, Denmark at 51.7% and Finland at 48.6% reflect very high public spending.^[22] One key reason for public spending is the large number of public employees. These employees work in various fields including education, healthcare and for the government itself. They often have greater job security and make up around a third of the workforce (more than 38% in Denmark). Public spending in social transfers such as unemployment benefits and early-retirement programmes is high. In 2001, the wage-based unemployment benefits were around 90% of wage in Denmark and 80% in Sweden, compared to 75% in the Netherlands and 60% in Germany. The unemployed were also able to receive benefits several years before reductions, compared to quick benefit reduction in other countries.
• Public expenditure for health and education is significantly higher in Denmark, Norway and Sweden in comparison to the OECD average.^[23]
• Overall tax burdens (as a percentage of GDP) are high, with Denmark at 45.9% and both Finland and Sweden at 44.1%.^[24] The Nordic countries have relatively flat tax rates, meaning that even those with medium and low incomes are taxed at relatively high levels.^[25][26]

The only problem is he isn't proposing the Nordic model. In that model, the non rich share a much bigger share of the ta burden than they do in America now and in Bernie's utopian vision. Bernie is proposing a land where 95% of the population is taken care of by 5%.