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    Zion's second game

    Expectations are high here..
    His presence is the difference between NO being a fav and a dog vs Denver..
    Line sitting at -4 right now..
    Total has actually dropped to 229 but why?
    Do we jump on the train now because of his stellar debut? (not counting turnovers) or is there a let down vs a better Denver team?
    Looking at NO M/L and that over is screaming at me..
    Any thoughts?

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    Zion is not changing the line much, Denver's whole team is hurt.

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    Maybe add a contest...

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    Norl -4 or nothing

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    He does not play a lot of minutes so not much impact on the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    He does not play a lot of minutes so not much impact on the game
    Ummm..
    18 minutes
    8/11 from the field
    4/4 3 pt.
    7 boards
    22 points...

    Think that qualifies as an impact..
    Question is; does he get better tonight?

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    It was luck he made every 3 though, 5 turnovers he did not play that well.
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    Here's a 3 minute 4th quarter close game stint from his opening game...

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Here's that 4th quarter run for Zion, from ESPN play by play, it wasn't exactly garbage time based on the score.

    I suppose Ball is going to pile up some assists with Zion on the floor, he picked up 5 in this stretch alone. It was basically 3 minutes of dominance with fresh legs, with 3 pointers; the first and last entries below just bookend the action.

    After walking on water, Zion even had a a miracle 7 foot layup attempt, which was blocked...

    9:24 Zion Williamson defensive rebound 97 - 89
    8:52 Zion Williamson makes 27-foot three point jumper (Lonzo Ball assists) 99 - 94
    8:27 Zion Williamson makes alley oop layup (Lonzo Ball assists) 101 - 96
    7:53 Zion Williamson makes 26-foot three point jumper (Lonzo Ball assists) 104 - 99
    7:34 Zion Williamson defensive rebound 104 - 99
    7:26 Jakob Poeltl blocks Zion Williamson 's 7-foot layup 104 - 99
    7:22 Zion Williamson offensive rebound 104 - 99
    7:22 Zion Williamson makes two point shot 104 - 101
    7:00 Zion Williamson makes 26-foot three point jumper (Lonzo Ball assists) 106 - 104
    6:18 Zion Williamson makes 26-foot three point jumper (Lonzo Ball assists) 106 - 107
    5:44 Zion Williamson misses free throw 1 of 2 109 - 107
    5:44 Zion Williamson makes free throw 2 of 2 109 - 108
    5:23 Brandon Ingram enters the game for Zion Williamson 111 - 108
    As the Milwaukee Bucks coaching staff has showed us, you don't need a lot of minutes to make an impact.

    This is one reason we use efficiency type derviatives, on a per minute basis, even large junks like 50 or 100. Using rolling numbers through those ranges will make a forecast even tighter as it understanding where a player or team is and where they have been will help predict where they will be in the future. Just remember, when comparing any two factors, it's best to compare them to the league avg, whether mean or median.

    But that's a whole nutha topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    It was luck he made every 3 though, 5 turnovers he did not play that well.
    Was going to be my next post...adjusting for the type of play can make a difference, but it can also just be noise in the bigger picture...treating it as noise seems to be ok there.

    The guy is on fire from 3, doubt that stays and doubt that remains a part of the game plan.

    He's a threat though, hope he stays healthy.


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    Lonzo Ball stands to really benefit from Zion in the lineup, it appears.

    He'll be the next John Stockton!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    It was luck he made every 3 though, 5 turnovers he did not play that well.
    Turnovers are to be expected and you have to believe that will get better but to say he didn't play that well?
    Honestly?
    Think he played better than expected considering his limited time on the court..
    I'm not a huge fan but you have to give credit where credit is due..

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    I think Drew is setting over/unders

    points 99.5
    Rebounds 30.5
    Assists 20.5
    steals 1.5
    Blocks 10.5

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    I think an interesting prop would be how many games the regular season does he also have 4 or more 3 pointers made

    I bet its pretty low

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    I think Drew is setting over/unders

    points 99.5
    Rebounds 30.5
    Assists 20.5
    steals 1.5
    Blocks 10.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    I think Drew is setting over/unders

    points 99.5
    Rebounds 30.5
    Assists 20.5
    steals 1.5
    Blocks 10.5

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    O/U for tonight's game
    Pts: 15.5
    Rbs: 6.5
    3 pt: 1.5

    Seems kinda low..

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    Buck. His first game. Fan duel had his over under. At 10 point 's. Even money
    For real

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    Picked up Lonzo Ball ASSISTS OVER 7.5 at +105 and +120 as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harthebar View Post
    Buck. His first game. Fan duel had his over under. At 10 point 's. Even money
    For real
    That's crazy!!!!
    Chalk it up to another one I missed..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Picked up Lonzo Ball ASSISTS OVER 7.5 at +105 and +120 as well.

    That's a good wager..
    Gonna be his priority to feed the guy the ball and I expect at least 24 minutes from Zion tonight..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckandadime View Post
    Ummm..
    18 minutes
    8/11 from the field
    4/4 3 pt.
    7 boards
    22 points...

    Think that qualifies as an impact..
    Question is; does he get better tonight?
    zero impact..when he did not play are terrible so you cannot bet them

    Not enough minutes to impact game

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    zero impact..when he did not play are terrible so you cannot bet them

    Not enough minutes to impact game

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    Like I said zero impact again they would’ve won if he played normal minutes that’s why you got to fade them

    Can’t impact the game when your best players not played much

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    7-9 fgs is nice he's no james harden on fg pct that's for sure

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    Ball with 6 assists...Fukkin bitch.


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    knocked that bitch the fuk out

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Here's a 3 minute 4th quarter close game stint from his opening game...

    As the Milwaukee Bucks coaching staff has showed us, you don't need a lot of minutes to make an impact.

    This is one reason we use efficiency type derviatives, on a per minute basis, even large junks like 50 or 100. Using rolling numbers through those ranges will make a forecast even tighter as it understanding where a player or team is and where they have been will help predict where they will be in the future. Just remember, when comparing any two factors, it's best to compare them to the league avg, whether mean or median.

    But that's a whole nutha topic.

    Oh yeah, almost forgot, the Guava IX is back in stock, same crop as before...

    29% THC god damn!! Nvm, saw you got it in Sac. Live in Bay Area myself. Carry on lol.

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    if you count the scoring of the game from only the minutes when he was on court, new orleans up by 16. his rating was +16 for the 2nd game

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivaporto View Post
    if you count the scoring of the game from only the minutes when he was on court, new orleans up by 16. his rating was +16 for the 2nd game
    Yeah, that was highest for the game by 6...

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    They lose period so he has had no impact either game and only reason lack of minutes

    Never bet them until he plays 32+

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    He had an impact, you're retarded if you say no impact

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    They lose period so he has had no impact either game and only reason lack of minutes

    Never bet them until he plays 32+
    32+???
    Seriously?
    32+.... Ok JJ..
    Well, he.probably won't impact but 1/15-20 games then..
    If they won would be have had some sort of impact on the flow and play of the game?

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