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    It’s such an addictive game I can play for hours

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    I was up $5, quit session and started a new one 10 mins later.. lost $13 in 5 mins, im done! lmao

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    If your goal is just $4 a session and you're betting at least $1 a hand, then it's not really that difficult to meet your goal, especially if you use some kind of system with escalating bets (i.e. martingale)

    I would say 90-95% isn't unrealistic at all, it's just that the eventual losing sessions will be for large amounts and cancel out most of the winning sessions

    If you really wanted to test your theory, all you have to do is set your stop loss the same as your stop win, $4. If you're still winning 95%, then there's definitely a glitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    If your goal is just $4 a session and you're betting at least $1 a hand, then it's not really that difficult to meet your goal, especially if you use some kind of system with escalating bets (i.e. martingale)

    I would say 90-95% isn't unrealistic at all, it's just that the eventual losing sessions will be for large amounts and cancel out most of the winning sessions

    If you really wanted to test your theory, all you have to do is set your stop loss the same as your stop win, $4. If you're still winning 95%, then there's definitely a glitch
    Thats the rub. Instead of chasing further I'm attempting to keep my losses at less then $20. Comes a point where I'm down maybe $10 and I double down $4 or $6 and lose. At that point its just as likely to end up down $45 for the session as it is to make $4 so I'm stopping at the $20 threshold. Yesterday I went 10-1 session wise. High win of $9, but the loss was for $21. Net profit of $22.50

    2-0 this morning $4 and $4

    Overall Update: 76-6 (92.6%) +$398.50
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    You guys are desperate to win a buck because you have lost so much. Fred, how much have you LOST overall in your gambling career?
    Cash wise? I'm definitely up, but its hard to say. I got divorced in 1998 because I was a gambling degenerate and ran up $15k on credit card advances, loan scams, etc. Lucky I didn't get criminal charges filed against me. My marriage sucked anyway, but I destroyed her credit as well as mine. Not good. Never paid a dime though other then maybe a few grand at Lone Star Park. Now the poker boom put me in the green for good (hopefully). I won $12,500 on Bodog alone in May of 2005. I won a $33 entry tournament for $6600 on Pacific Poker my 2nd month online in 2004. I've been playing poker now for 40+ years! Google my name and it still shows professional poker player from a WSOP cash in 2005. I put down $20k on my house despite only making $40k/yr at the time. Since 2007? Probably even at best, but no huge losses. I did probably dump 10k the year I bought my house in 2007. Players got better, fish went broke, and the poker boom ended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stylesnac View Post
    I was up $5, quit session and started a new one 10 mins later.. lost $13 in 5 mins, im done! lmao
    Are you playing the Double Deck BJ on Ignition/Bovada with the 2 purple squares w/blue background and stupid music?

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    First one is the wrong one. I put this next to my game as I'm playing

    Lastly, I don't double 11 on dealer 10 unless I'm way up. I don't double 10 vs a dealer 9. I will double 11 on a dealer Ace since they have to stop at all 17s. Other then that I follow this card to the letter

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    The more hands you play the house edge will get you

    Limit the hands daily

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    78-8.....5-3 in my last 8 (-$34). Lost $20+1 double-up with AQ vs AJ preflop. Can't win with 70% hand...let alone a race. I'd say there's a good chance Bovada has bots stealing pots. Who's to stop them? They're going to get the $ one way or the other. I'll still bang away a little bit, but I think their program just gives you a little run so you think you can win. I hadn't played BJ on here in a while.

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    interesting thread

    Freddy keep doing it just do not go on tilt

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    interesting thread

    Freddy keep doing it just do not go on tilt
    Thanks buddy! Get home from work at 5:30am and can't sleep. Anyway finally won a 20+1 sng. Some of the players are stupid like they've been up all night too. You only need to finish top 3 of 6. When I lose its always the bubble....so in some ways only need to finish 3 of 4. Alot of these Bovada fish don't get the strategy. They play it like its a tournament and try to get all the chips. If you have 3500 chips and a guy with 2500 shoves....you don't have to call just because you have AK....not if youre down to 4 players and the shorty has 600 left. Just wait them out.

    Back to BJ. +4 and +8 (80-8 +$394 overall)
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    agree, very interesting to see this thread and results cause i play Blackjack online and have learned the hard way many times

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    [QUOTE=Fred The Hammer;29177348]78-8.....5-3 in my last 8 (-$34). Lost $20+1 double-up with AQ vs AJ preflop.


    What are you talking about here? AQ vs AJ preflop sounds like Texas Holdem not black jack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred The Hammer View Post
    Lastly, I don't double 11 on dealer 10 unless I'm way up. I don't double 10 vs a dealer 9. I will double 11 on a dealer Ace since they have to stop at all 17s. Other then that I follow this card to the letter
    You're losing value every time you do this then. And not just a little, you're a losing a lot every time you don't double in those situations. There are slight exceptions to the card mostly composition dependent that you can find on that site if you dig around (i.e. hit a 10,2 against dealer 4, stand on certain 3 card 16s against a dealer 10, etc. etc.) but those are literally fractions of percentages. But by not doubling, you're losing 5-7% value every time you do that

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    You're losing value every time you do this then. And not just a little, you're a losing a lot every time you don't double in those situations. There are slight exceptions to the card mostly composition dependent that you can find on that site if you dig around (i.e. hit a 10,2 against dealer 4, stand on certain 3 card 16s against a dealer 10, etc. etc.) but those are literally fractions of percentages. But by not doubling, you're losing 5-7% value every time you do that
    Statistically you're right, but imo its a program and not a legit game of chance.

    Update...won 7 sessions in a row (85-8 +$417)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    agree, very interesting to see this thread and results cause i play Blackjack online and have learned the hard way many times
    Me too. I got hooked for a short while on the live dealer BJ game on 5D with the Costa Rican dealers or whatever. Of course I hit for like $600 the first time I played on there, but got smashed 90% of the time after that.

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    Fred the Hammer?

    Psh, more like Fred the Loose Screw

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    You're losing value every time you do this then. And not just a little, you're a losing a lot every time you don't double in those situations. There are slight exceptions to the card mostly composition dependent that you can find on that site if you dig around (i.e. hit a 10,2 against dealer 4, stand on certain 3 card 16s against a dealer 10, etc. etc.) but those are literally fractions of percentages. But by not doubling, you're losing 5-7% value every time you do that
    I agree with your point. For the hand 11 against a dealer showing 10 the calculator I use shows.
    Stand -0.541554
    Hit +0.118798
    DOUBLE +0.178769

    Or if we bet 1$ on 100 of these hands we would win $17.87 with this subset. There would be some pushes involved. So, Fred collecting $6 less is about 6 cents a hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred The Hammer View Post
    Statistically you're right, but imo its a program and not a legit game of chance.

    Update...won 7 sessions in a row (85-8 +$417)
    If it is not a random number generator and it is pre programmed the game would be impossible to beat with your strategy card. I am not saying you are wrong or right but play 50 someplace else with the exact same strategy and see if you can beat them?

    What other variables are there? What is your lifetime record there with sports or poker or whatever else you play? What possible reason would they have to let you win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyOne View Post
    If it is not a random number generator and it is pre programmed the game would be impossible to beat with your strategy card. I am not saying you are wrong or right but play 50 someplace else with the exact same strategy and see if you can beat them?

    What other variables are there? What is your lifetime record there with sports or poker or whatever else you play? What possible reason would they have to let you win?
    Plus $171 the last 3 days....thats all I know (88-8 session record with 10 winning sessions in a row).

    As for doubling 11 vs a dealer 10. Its just never worked for me. Doubling A4 vs a 4....I end up with 15. Dealer has a 4 & 6 and buries me. Barely seem to be positive doubling 10-11 vs a 6. For the most part I've quit playing BJ online or live in the last 2 years cause I never hit. I'll run with it. Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy Munny View Post
    Fred the Hammer?

    Psh, more like Fred the Loose Screw
    Goes without saying. Here's my WSOP cash. Man that was fun. Wish I had the funds to travel around and play those. They had a $500 BJ tournament at Mirage last time I was there as well, but didn't know the betting strategy to play in it.

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    Will be meeting with a friend this Saturday who won $100,000 playing only Blackjack at OLG. CA, (as I understand, in less than 2 hours. After losing $35,000 over a 36 hour period, he withdrew $50,000. A week later they informed him that a forensics team would be reviewing his play to ensure that there was no cheating or malfunction. 7 days later he still has not received any response from them. I advised him not to stop gambling And to keep playing with about $100 per day. Ontario law requires them to pay out a certain percentage of what they take in, so I don't foresee any problems. I think they are just slow paying him. They do not offer withdraw cancellations. So he can't re gamble any of the 50k until they send it to him. Will be interesting to see how this works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayvegas420 View Post
    Will be meeting with a friend this Saturday who won $100,000 playing only Blackjack at OLG. CA, (as I understand, in less than 2 hours. After losing $35,000 over a 36 hour period, he withdrew $50,000. A week later they informed him that a forensics team would be reviewing his play to ensure that there was no cheating or malfunction. 7 days later he still has not received any response from them. I advised him not to stop gambling And to keep playing with about $100 per day. Ontario law requires them to pay out a certain percentage of what they take in, so I don't foresee any problems. I think they are just slow paying him. They do not offer withdraw cancellations. So he can't re gamble any of the 50k until they send it to him. Will be interesting to see how this works out.
    Interesting. Let us know.

    Update. This is the Bovada I remember. Dealer Card Ten for 6 out of 7 hands. I get BJ but they have BJ too. Dropped $38 in 3 sessions this morning. 4-1 in my recent Double Up SNGs so theres that. Not giving back much more to shady BJ though. They turned the switch on and said enough is enough even for this guy playing with chump change.

    BJ overall can't complain (97-11 session record, +$407)
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    Side note. I was in my car yesterday and a radio ad announced that Hooters will be taking sports bets here in Indiana. I had to grab the wheel with both hands to keep from crashing. Combining my 2 biggest loves? Gambling and titties? OMG))) Now if they could throw in some Ukrainian titties too then it would be perfect!! WTF. I never in a million years thought this red state, Mike Pence, bible thumping area would be cutting loose!!

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    110 winning sessions 14 losing sessions with Double Deck Blackjack

    Jan 6 = +$113
    Jan 7 = +22.50
    Jan 8 = +36
    Jan 9 = -27
    Jan 10 = +31.50
    Jan 11 (so far) = +28.50

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    Good work

    How much time have you put in I want to see a breakdown how much you’re making per hour

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    hope this thread does NOT lead someone off the cliff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred The Hammer View Post
    Side note. I was in my car yesterday and a radio ad announced that Hooters will be taking sports bets here in Indiana. I had to grab the wheel with both hands to keep from crashing. Combining my 2 biggest loves? Gambling and titties? OMG))) Now if they could throw in some Ukrainian titties too then it would be perfect!! WTF. I never in a million years thought this red state, Mike Pence, bible thumping area would be cutting loose!!
    Maybe there’s hope yet for Texas. Still can’t believe after all these years they let millions upon millions annually drive away to Oklahoma and Louisiana casinos.

    Great job and great money management on the blackjack. Agree it would be very dangerous for anyone else to expect the even close to the same ROI % with higher bet amounts.

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