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    It’s just wild!!! I know in ncaa hoops late points always affect the line but when it’s happening 7 out of every 10 games on the exact same shit it becomes very frustrating!!! Like not even kidding ask firedawg he has seen the way I’ve lost lately and it’s not even remotely close to being normal!!! Like every possible backdoor fukjob has happened the last month!!! Cover the whole way only to be bent over at the end with no Vaseline!! it really messes with a gamblers head seeing the same thing happen over and over again esp when you capped the game the right way too!! And guess who also was on Wyoming today.... this fuking guy was

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinnacle420 View Post
    It’s just wild!!! I know in ncaa hoops late points always affect the line but when it’s happening 7 out of every 10 games on the exact same shit it becomes very frustrating!!! Like not even kidding ask firedawg he has seen the way I’ve lost lately and it’s not even remotely close to being normal!!! Like every possible backdoor fukjob has happened the last month!!! Cover the whole way only to be bent over at the end with no Vaseline!! it really messes with a gamblers head seeing the same thing happen over and over again esp when you capped the game the right way too!! And guess who also was on Wyoming today.... this fuking guy was
    So it was your fukkin fault I lost! I been running so good and avoiding any those Fukk jobs. I knew outside forces had to be at play!!

    You a solid capper bro. It happens to all us from time to time, long as you grading your bets well afterwords (ie making the right plays). It will turn around. You know how this shit goes. I remember one year having a stretch where every under I bet went to ot. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    So it was your fukkin fault I lost! I been running so good and avoiding any those Fukk jobs. I knew outside forces had to be at play!!

    You a solid capper bro. It happens to all us from time to time, long as you grading your bets well afterwords (ie making the right plays). It will turn around. You know how this shit goes. I remember one year having a stretch where every under I bet went to ot. Lol
    Hahahahaha was 100% my fault on Wyoming bro lol I’ll be the scapegoat for sure lol and ya man we have both been around long enough to know about hot and cold streaks but this shit has just been as brutal as I have ever seen man!!! And you know me bro I have been through it all but this shit this year has really made me start hating sports bro!! Poker I have been nothing but gold at killing it racking everyone I have been playing!!! Sat earlier with 500.00 left with 3100.00 but it’s not the point... you know what I mean bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinnacle420 View Post
    Hahahahaha was 100% my fault on Wyoming bro lol I’ll be the scapegoat for sure lol and ya man we have both been around long enough to know about hot and cold streaks but this shit has just been as brutal as I have ever seen man!!! And you know me bro I have been through it all but this shit this year has really made me start hating sports bro!! Poker I have been nothing but gold at killing it racking everyone I have been playing!!! Sat earlier with 500.00 left with 3100.00 but it’s not the point... you know what I mean bro
    For sure. Iíve had to step away for a minute many times over the years! Take some breaths, keep killing poker and jump back in when you see a bowl game you love or something!!

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    People have lost everything thinking they can beat the game

    Bet recreationally

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    People have lost everything thinking they can beat the game

    Bet recreationally
    life is hard JJ

    gambling is no different

    but tell me one aspect of life that isn’t incredibly hard?

    if making money by working for the man was easy nobody would gamble

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    Bear true

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    Recreationally you will lose lose and lose. Why even that. What is the point. Why do i do it. It makes no sense.

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    A man can have a miserable life with women. Over and over again. But take puzzy away for a few months and the man is dreaming and romancing all the good sex that happened 1% of the time and ready to jump back in knowing that 3 days after the fire its the same old chit. Humans? Wtf
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    That fine but when one team covering the whole fukkin Game the ppl who benefited deserved to lose. I donít mind dumb crazy shit when I made a suspect play. Donít like losing ones that were absolutely the right side.

    Like I recall having NW vs Stanford to start year and lost on a defensive score in last seconds of Game. It sucked but NW just wasnít a very good bet so didnít really sting that bad. Wyo today was a good bet, those sting more for me.
    I had air force-11.5. I deserved to win. They won by 14 on a line that closed -13.5. They had chances to score as well but got fgs. I understand it was a tough loss but it was an even harder win. I guess the big td was LUCKY but so was the big return by Wyoming just before that.
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    I actually stopped playing poker for the exact reason you want to quit sports betting. I couldn't handle the swings and even more so the bad beats. It was emotionally draining.

    Even with sports, I can't watch all the games. I have to just tune that shit out and check scores every now and again. As soon as I start getting obsessive about it, I just take a break. It's not worth the emotional energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    Recreationally you will lose lose and lose. Why even that. What is the point. Why do i do it. It makes no sense.
    Betting recreationally means it does not matter if you lose because this is the type of bettor who actually does not bet more than they can afford to lose and is in control.

    And I think more "rec bettors" may actually beak even, or make a little money, than people imagine.

    Rec bettors play forever, pros rarely last.


    But you're comparing apples to oranges anyway... one person is spending on a hobby for enjoyment, the other is trying to earn a guaranteed income from a system that is designed to ensure they do not.
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    maybe u were betting too much bet more at what ur winning at poker and small stakes sports betting so ur still feeling alive
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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    I actually stopped playing poker for the exact reason you want to quit sports betting. I couldn't handle the swings and even more so the bad beats. It was emotionally draining.

    Even with sports, I can't watch all the games. I have to just tune that shit out and check scores every now and again. As soon as I start getting obsessive about it, I just take a break. It's not worth the emotional energy.
    I'm in the same boat. I wanted to be a poker pro first and was doing well but the variance was awful. I was constantly going under EV and the grind was soul draining. At least in betting you can hedge your bets live to reduce variance.

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    Seriously guys. I've been betting sports for 51 years. Some were good years, some were bad. I even quit for a few after losing enough that it threatened disrupting my real life. Then came the online sports books at the same time that I retired. The first few years were great. Some of those books were easy. You could make money on arbs and middles. I even found one book that allowed parlays on the 1st half and full time on the same game. But over time they all tightened up (blame Don Best), and now those good times are gone. I once read an article that said there were only 4 games in a casino that could be beaten.


    1. Blackjack - if you counted cards.
    2. Video Poker - if you played perfectly and took advantage of the perks.
    3. Poker - if you were good enough to consistently beat the other players.
    4. Sports Betting - ah, there it is.


    They all share some common traits. They all take a lot of work and a lot of time. The casinos have made it much harder to do over time. The actual returns are relatively small and quite inconsistent (there's that variance again).

    So, what do I do? Since I don't like interacting with other people, I only played Video Poker at casinos. Unfortunately my health situation will more than likely keep me from ever going to a casino again (the end is near). That leaves me with this computer in bed and sports betting.

    My advice to all you young ones. Forget about beating it. Work hard and try to minimize your losses. Bet recreationally. Don't bet so much that it affects your real life. Make it a fun hobby. But balance that with other fun things. Enjoy life, it's wonderful. But it will pass more quickly than you think.
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    BSIms great post

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    not for us older fukkers GoldDust



    Bsims, Don`t you think it would be better to advise the younger guys to bet all in, all the time?
    and on favorites all the time, especially all big games?

    should help loosen the lines
    can`t hurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinnacle420 View Post
    In the last 30 days Iíve seen some of the worst beats humanly possible.... buzzer beaters for blown covers... guys fumbling at the 1 yard line for game winners... kickers missing 30 yard field goals for covering overs... the list goes on and on... Iíll make thousands playing poker and just give it back betting on these monkeys in sports... today I announce Iím retiring from betting on sports!!! Iíll be focusing full time on playing high limit hold em and Omaha... this year Iím up high 5 figures playing poker and down about the same about betting on these uneducated monkeys... I will no longer be betting sports!!! I did great for over 15 years of betting on these clowns but this season has opened my eyes completely!! So I hope everyone can kick some ass betting sports but itís just not for me anymore!!! If you guys ever feel like getting racked at 2-4 hold em Iíll be at betonline grinding it out
    Degenerate gamblers never quit. As long as you have money you will bet. I am certain you will bet on sport again before the year is over when you find a game that you think is too good of a line. Sports betting is winnable if bettors change the way they think, have different perspectives, have self control and discipline. Those things that you mention are variables in the game. A handicapper who reels on those little moments in the game and can't get over it is not handicapping properly. Someone like this will fail in poker too if mostly playing among stiffer competition but rake on and enjoy against the weaker opponents.

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    I've survived a long long time. I have easily wagered over 1M and I'm still in the game. 2 words Discipline and Volume or actually lack thereof "Volume". Action kills. Those who pick their spots carefully have a chance. BOL, it took me quite a while to figure this out. Hope this helps.

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    If you can figure out why a number is kept where it is kept, You can win long term..
    For example, Opening line for a game of total of 220 is why 220 and not 210 or 230, try and figure out.. if you know the answer, you are in the league of Sharps..

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    video poker????? LOL serious sims were u playing to make an hourly rate or just trying to get free meal and board and the occasional washed out enteRtainer. . LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    BSIms great post
    yeah the last sentence. lol sorry sims your out of the loop

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    Some years it's beatable. Low volume & higher flat amounts help me stay in the game.

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    We should all quit gambling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsims View Post


    Enjoy life, it's wonderful. But it will pass more quickly than you think.


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    consensus low volume but most cannot do it

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    I’ll obviously be back at it betting sports again sometime but it’s gonna be very low volume.... I’m a degen I will never be able to just not do it lmao but I’m gonna stick to poker for the time being... at least with cards I control the action and if I choose to play a hand or not... with these monkeys on the court and field I can’t control what they do at all and that’s the difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    consensus low volume...
    Yeah and we know that the way to win at sports is to do what everyone else agrees to do.


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    NCAA hoops real hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsims View Post
    Seriously guys. I've been betting sports for 51 years. Some were good years, some were bad. I even quit for a few after losing enough that it threatened disrupting my real life. Then came the online sports books at the same time that I retired. The first few years were great. Some of those books were easy. You could make money on arbs and middles. I even found one book that allowed parlays on the 1st half and full time on the same game. But over time they all tightened up (blame Don Best), and now those good times are gone. I once read an article that said there were only 4 games in a casino that could be beaten.


    1. Blackjack - if you counted cards.
    2. Video Poker - if you played perfectly and took advantage of the perks.
    3. Poker - if you were good enough to consistently beat the other players.
    4. Sports Betting - ah, there it is.


    They all share some common traits. They all take a lot of work and a lot of time. The casinos have made it much harder to do over time. The actual returns are relatively small and quite inconsistent (there's that variance again).

    So, what do I do? Since I don't like interacting with other people, I only played Video Poker at casinos. Unfortunately my health situation will more than likely keep me from ever going to a casino again (the end is near). That leaves me with this computer in bed and sports betting.

    My advice to all you young ones. Forget about beating it. Work hard and try to minimize your losses. Bet recreationally. Don't bet so much that it affects your real life. Make it a fun hobby. But balance that with other fun things. Enjoy life, it's wonderful. But it will pass more quickly than you think.
    good post
    Best of luck to you, Bsims

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    all books love volume players

    They hate spot players

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    all books love volume players

    They hate spot players
    Spot players don't hit 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otters27 View Post
    NCAA hoops real hard
    Impossible. Waste of time until tournament
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Spot players don't hit 100%
    We know you’re on your high horse today with your impressive wins/wagers , but 55% is good enough to make a respectable amount of money if you are betting 4 figures. 5 figures even better I hope to get there one day.

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