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    Best bets for Deontay Wilder-Luis Ortiz 🥊

    Best bets for Deontay Wilder-Luis Ortiz

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    Rematches, in the main, are very eagerly awaited, especially in the heavyweight division. But this weekend sees a rematch taking place in Las Vegas that has generally been greeted with a feeling of disdain in the fight game. This rematch sees a WBC heavyweight title clash between 34-year-old champion Deontay Wilder and 40-year-old Luis Ortiz.


    Why is everyone feeling so underwhelmed when the first encounter between these two fighters was a good one? To many, Wilder (41-0-1, 40 KOs) has still not faced the very best contenders in the division, even though he has been the WBC belt holder for nearly five years. Long-term mandatory challengers have been made to wait, and the only defense Wilder has made that most fight insiders believe to be meaningful is the draw against Tyson Fury nearly a year ago -- a fight where many believe he got favorable scores from two of the three judges.



    However, let's concentrate on what Wilder has done. He has stopped his opponents in all but two of his fights, and he has knocked down every single opponent he has faced. The power of the Wilder right hand is the key to every fight he has or will participate in, and at no time can that be dismissed.


    Ortiz (31-1, 26 KOs) has a record that on the surface shouldn't be underestimated. However, the Cuban has never beaten anyone inside the top 10 in the world rankings. In his only contest against a top-10 opponent, he was stopped in 10 rounds by Wilder 20 months ago after boxing well and causing Wilder problems. Add in the doubts around his actual age (there are many who believe he is older) and it is difficult to make a case for him reversing the result this time around. A big right hand landing flush from the Cuban, though, could still make it happen.


    The tale of the tape shows that both fighters are big men. At 6-foot-7, Wilder is 3 inches taller than Ortiz, and Wilder's 83-inch reach will see him enjoy an advantage of 5 inches. Wilder has improved since that night in March 2018 when he emerged victorious, and he will surely be looking to have more control of the fight and use his advantages to control the distance and make it difficult for Ortiz to establish any kind of foothold.


    Both men have an extensive history of early stoppage wins. Thirty of Wilder's 40 stoppage wins have come inside three rounds, as have 15 of the 26 stoppage victories by Ortiz. History also shows that when a champion has stopped an opponent previously, he generally stops the same opponent faster in the rematch. Joe Louis did this with Billy Conn, Rocky Marciano with Jersey Joe Walcott, and Mike Tyson with Frank Bruno. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if that happens on this occasion and therefore will be recommending a play on the under in the total rounds market.


    Pick: A small play under 6.5 rounds at -125 or better or under 5.5 rounds at -105 or better.

    What do the industry insiders/experts say?

    "As far as Wilder-Ortiz 2 goes, I'm picking Wilder. The new and conditioned Ortiz is nice to see, but old habits die hard. I don't see this new look undoing a career long style. Nothing can truly prepare you for when Wilder's right hand lands so I am going Wilder by late round stoppage."


    -- Amy Green, writer for boxingscene.com and elector for the Women's Boxing Hall of Fame


    "Wilder's 10% better now and will be more confident than in the first fight, and Ortiz is a year older, and not 40 years old, but very likely much older. Ortiz will get stopped earlier this time."


    -- Rick Glaser, international boxing agent, broker and consultant


    "The two men are going in opposite directions now. Ortiz at 40 years maybe older left a piece of himself in the ring in the first fight; as close as he came, he just came up short. Wilder grew from that experience. it really forged him into a better fighter and proved he can take it as well as give it. I don't see this fight being on the level of the first encounter. Wilder wins more one-sided and closes the show earlier."


    -- Danny "Mac" McGarvie, Canadian matchmaker

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    Wilder cannot lose

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    wilder coming to the ring lookin like Super Shredder

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    Wilder down 5-0 imo.

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    Live betting is a pick em at the start of the 7th round

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    jeez

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    Thank you for waiting past the over 6.5 to let that right hand off its leash, Mr. Wilder!

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    no one can make it 36 minutes before he drops one of those bombs. it was amazing that fury got up from the one he did.

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    Nice KO

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    I love how Wilder didn't do anything and waited for over 6.5 to hit. Than he ko'ed the guy. Boxing is trash.

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    Wilder cant box for shit but damn does he pack some dynamite in that right hand

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    what a terrible fight

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    Yeh
    Is Wilder vulnerable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Yeh
    Is Wilder vulnerable?
    Wilder is the hardest puncher in boxing history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApricotSinner32 View Post
    Wilder is the hardest puncher in boxing history.
    Damn. Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Damn. Really?
    no not really


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Damn. Really?
    Luis Ortiz was like 349-13 in the amateurs and is a monster himself with concussive ko power... nobody has ever done that to him. His only losses are vs wilder. Wilder didn't even hit the guy on the chin he gave the guy a penetrating stroke hitting him on the eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outsider626 View Post
    I love how Wilder didn't do anything and waited for over 6.5 to hit. Than he ko'ed the guy. Boxing is trash.
    This isn’t something new. Shit happens all the time. Incredible how these guys can fight when the under is no longer in jeopardy. I think Mayweather threw 1 punch thru 5 against Mcgregor. Floyd doesn’t knockout anyone but in that mismatch for the ages he had to make Conor look good and once that under was done so was Conor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApricotSinner32 View Post
    Luis Ortiz was like 349-13 in the amateurs and is a monster himself with concussive ko power... nobody has ever done that to him. His only losses are vs wilder. Wilder didn't even hit the guy on the chin he gave the guy a penetrating stroke hitting him on the eye.
    Damn. I Havnt followed boxing in a long time. Shame cause i love it. Was not happy when mma took over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    This isn’t something new. Shit happens all the time. Incredible how these guys can fight when the under is no longer in jeopardy. I think Mayweather threw 1 punch thru 5 against Mcgregor. Floyd doesn’t knockout anyone but in that mismatch for the ages he had to make Conor look good and once that under was done so was Conor.
    Or just maybe Floyd is a great tactician and defensive fighter that has no interest getting hit by a dude way stronger than him so he took some rounds to poke and prod to figure out what he could do. Shouldn’t speak on topics you clueless about, but I guess that would mean you never talked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Or just maybe Floyd is a great tactician and defensive fighter that has no interest getting hit by a dude way stronger than him so he took some rounds to poke and prod to figure out what he could do. Shouldn’t speak on topics you clueless about, but I guess that would mean you never talked.
    Dude u put the sq in the word square. Books love guys like u. Your are the dunning Kruger of sports wagering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    This isn’t something new. Shit happens all the time. Incredible how these guys can fight when the under is no longer in jeopardy. I think Mayweather threw 1 punch thru 5 against Mcgregor. Floyd doesn’t knockout anyone but in that mismatch for the ages he had to make Conor look good and once that under was done so was Conor.

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    Wilder fought smart and waited for Ortiz to slow a little.

    Not a pretty or entertaining fight but safer than standing and banging with Ortiz when he's fresh.

    Good for career longevity and my bottom line, having the over.

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