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    Two things I don't like about the weather

    Rain
    Temperature not cold (upper 40s)

    This doesn't favor the Pats.. Sony Michel has been a non-factor, the pass offense is still a work in motion..
    I trust them down the line, but can't overlook offensive issues recently...
    Cowboys style is a meaty style that could get to Brady and Prescott has been physical, EE on the ground means prevent defense won't stop first downs...
    Edelman has been showing some weaknesses in physicality, backs can pop the ball out or strip it.. he's small.... and I wonder if Nick Folk might flub a field goal..
    Not saying they will lose, but I think the offense right now needs sunny weather, better protection (this is on the way but isn't quite reliable YET (will be in December)
    and without the cold to bother Dallas, I'm just worried.... where I'm at now anyway...

    am i wrong

    on the other side, Belichick is 10X the coach Garrett is, so he may just figure out a way to win
    the same way Garrett may figure out a way to lose.

    no commit yet

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    100% this line is mostly based on the redic coaching mismatch. Certainly isn’t based off talent as it tough to argue for pats in that regard. I lean the points but god Garrett is terrible and hoody is great.

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    Fading Brady

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    Forecast update at game time

    RAIN, 37-39, feeling colder, 11 mph wind

    https://darksky.net/details/42.0631,...-11-24/us12/en

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    Wtf do you guys see in Dallas? This has to be Pats or nothing. Brady in the media calling himself and his offense out. Pats at home. Rain in Foxboro. We’ve seen this movie before, we know how it ends.

    Also, spoiler alert. Dallas sucks! They penetrating suck. Their wins are against

    Giants - one of the four or five worst teams in the league
    Redskins - one of the two or three worst teams in the league
    Dolphins - one of the two or three worst teams in the league
    Eagles - respectable win
    Giants again - still one of the worst teams in the league
    Lions - Jeff Driskel at qb and the cowboys almost lost

    They lost to the Jets, the Saints without Brees, the Packers, and the Vikings. I know these things don’t translate directly, but New England is better than all of those teams.

    Again, what do you guys see in the Cowboys? You think because they have a few big name fantasy stars that they’re a super bowl contender? You probably had future bets on the Vick Eagles too lol.

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    pats win at home they always do

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    Start fading the Pats possibly

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    It will be warmer than expected with temps in the high 40s...
    Rain will be mostly on but not too heavy

    These factors seem to favor Dallas.
    However - Sanu and Dorsett are game-time decisions, so we should expect some availability between them.

    Line has fallen to -5/-5.5

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    cowboys spread and ML here. larger than usual ML bet also.

    Snowball, Sanu is out and Dorsett is a gametime decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    100% this line is mostly based on the redic coaching mismatch. Certainly isn’t based off talent as it tough to argue for pats in that regard. I lean the points but god Garrett is terrible and hoody is great.
    Agree I was thinks ng of betting cowboys to win the division despite their tough schedule because they clearly are better than eagles right now given eagles injuries, I couldn't do it after watching Garret all these years and how they fuked up the end of the Vikings game.

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    Let's do 1:00 PM games first.

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    Think the patriots defense will get its usual 2 td, 5 sacks, 4 ints, 3 fumble recoveries, blocked punt, kickoff td, etc...

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    I said it earlier this week.... why do we consistently go against the best coach and best QB in NFL history. Every year at this time its the same story. Pats D looks slow. Brady getting old. Receivers dropping a lot of easy passes... Then what happens. They end up winning the superbowl....I saw this in a thread earlier this week. HOODIE SPANKS GINGER. I gotta agree. Coaches are not even on the same planet. Good luck guys but I gotta lay the 5,5

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    cowboys spread and ML here. larger than usual ML bet also.

    Snowball, Sanu is out and Dorsett is a gametime decision.
    I like it too.

    I think the weather hurts the Pats offense way more than Dallas'. Prescott can at least run in this crap.


    Also, Michael Bennet giving away Patriots secrets. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    cowboys spread and ML here. larger than usual ML bet also.

    Snowball, Sanu is out and Dorsett is a gametime decision.
    Sanu is not OUT anymore. He is game-time but if he plays it will be limited.

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    Pats games have never really been about who is in vs who is out. In most cases it hasn't mattered. It's all about game planning and matchups. One thing I'm convinced of is that this Dallas team has no heart and if they are down they give up eventually. The opposite is true too... if they go up 2 scores they'd be amped.

    My guess is that they'll start with the ball and turn it over within their 1st 2 possessions. The Pats will have good field position and capitalize. All she wrote.

    Defense steps up today at Foxboro. Patriots and Under.

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    Well until it happens I got to go with the trends and that tells me to stick with the hood. The clapper just can't rah rah his way to victory.

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    Dallas

    Better team actually

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    WEEI just said Dorsett OUT, Sanu PROBABLY OUT

    Rain is bad.

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    Brady flat out Sucks this year !!! Afraid to get hit, only throws to Edleman, who leads the league in drops. Constantly complaining about the offense, just throw your guys under the bus while your at it.
    Then, in the media all but tells us he refuses to throw to the rookies, Harry & Myers??? Who is he going to throw to ???? Throw in no running game, no Gronk (security blanket) & a second tier offensive line, and what have we, a great (almost) defensive team, who just got smoked by Baltimore.
    Brady, give it up brother, if you are just going to cry, at 42/43 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    Brady flat out Sucks this year !!! Afraid to get hit, only throws to Edleman, who leads the league in drops. Constantly complaining about the offense, just throw your guys under the bus while your at it.
    Then, in the media all but tells us he refuses to throw to the rookies, Harry & Myers??? Who is he going to throw to ???? Throw in no running game, no Gronk (security blanket) & a second tier offensive line, and what have we, a great (almost) defensive team, who just got smoked by Baltimore.
    Brady, give it up brother, if you are just going to cry, at 42/43 years old.
    Offensive Line problems
    Gordon let go
    Brown in then let go
    Edelman declining
    Sanu pickup already injured
    Michel disappointing
    Gostkowski out

    these are not the best of circumstances

    but have confidence the Patriots will peak when it matters most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Offensive Line problems
    Gordon let go
    Brown in then let go
    Edelman declining
    Sanu pickup already injured
    Michel disappointing
    Gostkowski out

    these are not the best of circumstances

    but have confidence the Patriots will peak when it matters most.
    Nice excuses. Why can't we use who we have??? Why no huddle. Why no screens to White etc. Please, Brady done. Besides, I mentiones all that shit.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    Nice excuses. Why can't we use who we have??? Why no huddle. Why no screens to White etc. Please, Brady done. Besides, I mentiones all that shit.....
    McDaniels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    McDaniels
    Boy am I stupid Here I was thinking Belichick was the head coach. Damn I am dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    Boy am I stupid Here I was thinking Belichick was the head coach. Damn I am dumb.
    Belichick doesn't call the offensive plays McDaniels does, and Brady...

    we are spoiled

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    Never fails.

    although maggers is a ne homer, isn’t he? That’s concerning. 44 do you have a history of complaining about your team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grease lightnin View Post
    Never fails.

    although maggers is a ne homer, isn’t he? That’s concerning. 44 do you have a history of complaining about your team?
    If you call telling the truth complaining, I am guilty. I wager to win, not be a "homer" . And, show me in the past years, where I have ever complained about a loss????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Belichick doesn't call the offensive plays McDaniels does, and Brady...

    we are spoiled
    Who is ultimately responsible for the "game plan", and resulting adjustments made during the game???? The HC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    Who is ultimately responsible for the "game plan", and resulting adjustments made during the game???? The HC.

    Brady is not done.
    Another ring either this year or whenever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Brady is not done.
    Another ring either this year or whenever.
    Keep Dreaming. But, BOL today.

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    Cowboys +6/+220 for me

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    Cowboys +5.5 and +220 ml BANG BANG
    Patriots lose

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Fading Brady
    Thank you, 1 game left for me then!

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    Patssssssss $line

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machba View Post
    Cowboys +5.5 and +220 ml BANG BANG
    Patriots lose
    BANG BANG Just like Donks POY

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