[paco]

Capy, stop. Play happened in first quarter. You are on tilt. Step away from the computer and get some rest.

[captrobey]

you are talking about the seattle green bay game with replacement refs. that last play effected the spread not the total.

Yes i think that was the one. Call was so bad that it effected the outcome of the spread . This in my particular bet is close to the same thing. An obviously bad call that would have put the ball where they would have probably scored a TD or at worse a FG which in the end would have been a push. The thing that makes this crazy is just picturing them all looking at the screens and somehow not reversing it . I would have loved to hear that conversation during the replay. It could only have went one way.

Ref #1- Ok so lets see Larry . Looking at this i see he was grabbed 3 times before the ball ever got there is that what you see.

Ref #2 - Yea Tom i see that . Obviously Pass Inter .

Ref #1- Yea but that would prove we missed an obvious PI in the End Zone.

Ref #2 - So lets just say the play stands because we do not want to look bad after we did not call it.

Ref #1 - Ok i agree lets do that. Oh, and that Rob guy i know he has $5000 on this game lets screw him at the same time how hilarious would that be.

Ref #2- Yea lets do it that way we look like we were not wrong and screw Rob at the same time.

Ref #1- Ok we agree . Now give me a kiss and lets get back out there.

[captrobey]

Capy, stop. Play happened in first quarter. You are on tilt. Step away from the computer and get some rest.

Actually i have clients to take care of and appointments to get ready for lol.

[captrobey]

it was a bad call, but even if the call was correctly made there is no guarantee they would score a TD or make a fg to cover the over. I think you should take a few days or weeks off and come back strong. You can hit your mark with your next 280 deposit. This one is gone forever, but you got close, so take the tough loss and walk away, but remember that you have the potential to get it next time.

I know my friend. Have to get some clients done for now . Maybe come back and check this between calls.

[allabout the $$$]

Yes i think that was the one. Call was so bad that it effected the outcome of the spread . This in my particular bet is close to the same thing. An obviously bad call that would have put the ball where they would have probably scored a TD or at worse a FG which in the end would have been a push. The thing that makes this crazy is just picturing them all looking at the screens and somehow not reversing it . I would have loved to hear that conversation during the replay. It could only have went one way.

Ref #1- Ok so lets see Larry . Looking at this i see he was grabbed 3 times before the ball ever got there is that what you see.

Ref #2 - Yea Tom i see that . Obviously Pass Inter .

Ref #1- Yea but that would prove we missed an obvious PI in the End Zone.

Ref #2 - So lets just say the play stands because we do not want to look bad after we did not call it.

Ref #1 - Ok i agree lets do that. Oh, and that Rob guy i know he has $5000 on this game lets screw him at the same time how hilarious would that be.

Ref #2- Yea lets do it that way we look like we were not wrong and screw Rob at the same time.

Ref #1- Ok we agree . Now give me a kiss and lets get back out there.

stop play was 1st quarter whole game changes

[Regul8er]

Yes i know i will probably not get my money back. You guys act like this was just a normal bad call. This was beyond that . A normal bad call does not make national news. The part that makes this national news is that it was so obviously missed it was challenged. And they purposely did not reverse it because they did not to have their egos hurt and proved wrong. How else can you explain it . Sure they still had to score but they would have been right at the goal line pretty much odds were they would have and this would have won instead of losing by 3 .

It just makes me angry when i think of how the replay review went. How they were all looking at the screen and the conversation that had to have taken place.

You can take the word "probably" out of the first sentence. 100% you will not see your money back, and I sure hope you aren't going to ask your book for it back either. There is a missed call or missed calls in every single game that could have an affect on the side or total in every sport in every country. It's a part of the deal.......shake it off, and use your energy to cap tonight's games.

[pinnacle420]

You made the wager....
It lost....
be a man and suck it up!!! It’s called gambling not charity bro!!!

[d2bets]

Again, serious question....if you had the under would you call the book and tell them not to give you your winnings?

I didn't think so.

[NBAtanker]

I had a soccer match over 2.5 goals and there was a offside goal in the 93rd minute that was a mile on I wonder if this will work for me


Though it ended 0-0 loooollll

I don’t think the op can be serious sport is sport over/under is settled on what it finishes not what it could of finished

[captrobey]

stop play was 1st quarter whole game changes

Yea but the 2nd half playing out the exact same way it did this would have hit.

[captrobey]

You can take the word "probably" out of the first sentence. 100% you will not see your money back, and I sure hope you aren't going to ask your book for it back either. There is a missed call or missed calls in every single game that could have an affect on the side or total in every sport in every country. It's a part of the deal.......shake it off, and use your energy to cap tonight's games.

Yea i know. But this is way different then most others. This was so bad it made national news. A gazillion bad call do not end up making news like that. So you know it was that bad.I think what sticks out is how this feels like there was cheating because they purposely did not reverse it because they did not want to look bad .

[2daBank]

Again, serious question....if you had the under would you call the book and tell them not to give you your winnings?

I didn't think so.

I do this often, lol

[captrobey]

Again, serious question....if you had the under would you call the book and tell them not to give you your winnings?

I didn't think so.

No i would have been happy of course. That is not how i am looking at this. I do not want the people that Won to lose their money. I was hoping maybe the same thing would happen that the books did in the other game the other poster pointed out. This is on the same lines as that one for anyone having the Over at 51. They kept the winning bets and just returned the wagers of the losers.

Most of you keep acting like this was just another bad call. This was beyond that. This was a challenge that should have easily been reversed . The only way it is not is that they blatantly lie and keep the play as is. Just because they did not want to look bad. That just feels like cheating a bit to me that's all. And you all keep saying this happened early in the game. If the 2nd half played out the same this wins if they placed the ball at the 1 yd line and they score. I know i will probably not get my money back. But you have to admit if you watched this actual play and you lost $5000 that you had a great chance to win had they done the right thing - you would feel cheated too.

[captrobey]

I do this often, lol

This is different though this is not the same situation as 99.9 % of just bad calls. This one you know they lied to protect their egos . That is what bothers me. They are supposed to do the right thing and make the right calls. This proves the refs will purposely not do the right call out of spite.

[2daBank]

This is different though this is not the same situation as 99.9 % of just bad calls. This one you know they lied to protect their egos . That is what bothers me. They are supposed to do the right thing and make the right calls. This proves the refs will purposely not do the right call out of spite.

Bro you know you my guy but you so far off the deep end on this one. It is the same situation as pretty much every game ever these days. There a bad, horrible, outright criminally bad calls in pretty much every game. One that happened in the 1st half of this game had no effect on final score or outcome.

As been mentioned by others there no way you can assume if that play goes way you think it should have that it would be so simple that Houston would have simply added 3-7 points to their final score. I know you smart enough to understand this and you just grasping cause you upset.

Gotta just move on man, this approach you taking here is very Baker mayfield-ish, worrying about things out of our control from a game that over, gotta brush your shoulders off and look forward not in the rearview brotha.

[pattymayo]

The only way any book would ever consider this (and they still probably wouldn’t do it) is if that Hopkins no call play happened in the final seconds of regulation with Houston down 7. You’re talking about a play that happened in the first quarter. Even if they do call it and Houston scores you can’t then assume the rest of the game plays out the way it did

You got off easy. Imagine losing that $5k on Arizona +9.5

[RudyRuetigger]

just quit gambling

[ByeShea]

because there was a horrible call at the end of that game

You have no case.

[5918mike]

It's not even April 1st, come on now!

[jtoler]

better luck in the casino

[RudyRuetigger]

come on

this is embarrassing

hopefully he asks mods to delete this thread

[2daBank]

The only way any book would ever consider this (and they still probably wouldn’t do it) is if that Hopkins no call play happened in the final seconds of regulation with Houston down 7. You’re talking about a play that happened in the first quarter. Even if they do call it and Houston scores you can’t then assume the rest of the game plays out the way it did

You got off easy. Imagine losing that $5k on Arizona +9.5

Cardinals was a way worse beat than the total of this game. Honestly feel like this a strange game to be up in arms about cause the over was simply the wrong side. Not trying to take shots at him, it a bummer but happens to us all. Fact is it just cause he had bet so much on it the reason he making this stink, the over losing wasn’t close to being a bad beat.

[2daBank]

come on

this is embarrassing

hopefully he asks mods to delete this thread

Agreed. Horrible game to raise this issue with. Wasn’t even close to one the bad beats of weekend.

[Auto Donk]

unfortunately, CASE DISMISSED!!!!!

that game sucked ass, as well.....

the refs sucked ass on that no call....

but even the refs cannot suck as much ass as that lousy mother fukkin' coach bill o'brien sucks..... guy is straight up terrible as a head coach.....

never should have had watson heaving it into the endzone on that play in the first place.......


I've wanted that prick gone for several years now.... team's totally undisciplined, makes the same stupidity-based errors/penalties week after week..... play calling sucks..... fuk it, obrien just totally sucks!!!!!

[2daBank]

unfortunately, CASE DISMISSED!!!!!

that game sucked ass, as well.....

the refs sucked ass on that no call....

but even the refs cannot suck as much ass as that lousy mother fukkin' coach bill o'brien sucks..... guy is straight up terrible as a head coach.....

never should have had watson heaving it into the endzone on that play in the first place.......


I've wanted that prick gone for several years now.... team's totally undisciplined, makes the same stupidity-based errors/penalties week after week..... play calling sucks..... fuk it, obrien just totally sucks!!!!!

Spot on, it a real shame cause they have so much talent on the offensive side. Only reason he keeps his job cause the talent so good they get into playoffs in spite of him most seasons., Dude has no understanding of protecting his qb and he supposed to be a offensive minded coach! Sorry ass.

[captrobey]

Cardinals was a way worse beat than the total of this game. Honestly feel like this a strange game to be up in arms about cause the over was simply the wrong side. Not trying to take shots at him, it a bummer but happens to us all. Fact is it just cause he had bet so much on it the reason he making this stink, the over losing wasn’t close to being a bad beat.

Yea but unlike every other bad call what makes this different is the challenge flag. The new PI rule in the end zone i do not think the refs like being forced into that new rule. So they basically lied on that call just because they did not like it. But it was so obvious that everyone knows they basically had to lie to not reverse it. which unlike all other bad calls - this one has the feel of cheating because they did not just miss a call, they would not change it even though they knew they should of because they did not want their egos hurt. This was not just another bad call. Those do not end up on national news. This is the 2nd one i can think of that did.

And you guys keep saying it did not effect the outcome. I think it could have more then not. If they put the ball on the goal line odds are they will score a TD . Yea i know it is not 100% that but i would say way more then not at that point. Even a FG would have helped . Because the entire 2nd half played like the exact way it was - guess what . It Wins. Or very least was a tie . And yea ok they could have fumbled or something. Sure a slim chance. But i was denied that chance on a play that seemed like cheating to me . I should have been given that chance . This was not just a missed call. This is purposely not changing a call because you do not like being told you were wrong by not making the call in the first place. So to spite them you purposely lie and do not call it. That is cheating and that is what bothers me. Most other bad calls you cannot say that about. This one you can.

[Slurry Pumper]

The Cardinals losing was a bad beat and I'm not sure t was reviewed like it should have been.

This one has a more plausible scenario. So now I know that not every scoring play is reveiwed.

[Ph q all]

I was in Vegas and witnessed firsthand them paying out both sides.

I had the San Antonio Spurs -11.5.
They won the game by 12. After eating dinner I went to cash the ticket and Was told that San Antonio had only won by 11.
The team they were playing against was given credit for a 3 pointer more than an hour after the game, that was actually scored as a two point basket during the game.
The $49 steak actually ended up costing me $840.
It was approximately 22 to 23 years ago and for the life of me I cannot remember who the spurs were playing against.
It's not similar to the story you described in the football game yesterday but I just thought I would share that I have witnessed pay on both sides before and it can happen.

[2daBank]

It might have effected the outcome, we saying you can’t quantify how it would have,

There no difference bro, the fact it was challenged and still was apparently wrong (I didn’t see it) still doesn’t make it any different than the million other bad calls a weekend man, you know this, you just letting emotion cloud your judgement, understandable cause it sucks losing a big bet like that. End of day once you settle down you will realize you have won bets that had similarly bad calls that went your way, we all have. You just got short end of stick on this one pal, it happens. Dwelling on it not gonna change it...,

Far as challenging PI the rule was a bogus joke in the 1st place and I’m glad they havnt been overturning these. The precedent got set early they wernt gonna overturn these unless they were just insanely obvious which thankfully coaches have figured out and the stupid rule hasn’t become the issue I feared it be. I’d rather they never overturned one of them and just axed the stupid rule. Challenging penalties was a moronic idea they only caved on cause crying ass New Orleans idiots.

[captrobey]

unfortunately, CASE DISMISSED!!!!!

that game sucked ass, as well.....

the refs sucked ass on that no call....

but even the refs cannot suck as much ass as that lousy mother fukkin' coach bill o'brien sucks..... guy is straight up terrible as a head coach.....

never should have had watson heaving it into the endzone on that play in the first place.......


I've wanted that prick gone for several years now.... team's totally undisciplined, makes the same stupidity-based errors/penalties week after week..... play calling sucks..... fuk it, obrien just totally sucks!!!!!

Yea i know Donk . I know i will not get my money back especially such a huge bet. But it bothers me that i was denied that chance because they did that. I can see maybe missing the call. If no challenge flag was thrown then yes tough break. But they threw it because they saw what every single other person alive saw. And yet they had to basically lie outright t prove they were not wrong.

[pologq]

that would mean a bad call/missed call in every single game would justify the player in asking for a refund cause it affected the outcome. i understand your frustration but would never happen.

[U2.5]

they might as well just reverse the rule change about PI anyway. They never over turn the call on the field no matter how blatant it is

[2daBank]

Yea i know Donk . I know i will not get my money back especially such a huge bet. But it bothers me that i was denied that chance because they did that. I can see maybe missing the call. If no challenge flag was thrown then yes tough break. But they threw it because they saw what every single other person alive saw. And yet they had to basically lie outright t prove they were not wrong.

Bro Texans scored a grand total of 7 and that came in 4th of a blowout. Over was not a good play. Sucks losing a over when one team gives you 41 that for sure, incredibly frustrating believe me I know, but even ravens 41 was probably higher than they should have scored when you look at total yards in game. Just move on man, step away from it all for a day or 2, that what I do after a bad day, think bout other shit. Certainly don’t start capping more games till you got this one far removed from your mind.

[captrobey]

It might have effected the outcome, we saying you can’t quantify how it would have,

There no difference bro, the fact it was challenged and still was apparently wrong (I didn’t see it) still doesn’t make it any different than the million other bad calls a weekend man, you know this, you just letting emotion cloud your judgement, understandable cause it sucks losing a big bet like that. End of day once you settle down you will realize you have won bets that had similarly bad calls that went your way, we all have. You just got short end of stick on this one pal, it happens. Dwelling on it not gonna change it...,

Far as challenging PI the rule was a bogus joke in the 1st place and I’m glad they havnt been overturning these. The precedent got set early they wernt gonna overturn these unless they were just insanely obvious which thankfully coaches have figured out and the stupid rule hasn’t become the issue I feared it be. I’d rather they never overturned one of them and just axed the stupid rule. Challenging penalties was a moronic idea they only caved on cause crying ass New Orleans idiots.

Yea i know my friend. And like i said i do not know what would have happened if they did get it. I do know this though. If that was called the odds would have been in my favor to get that into the end Zone. Add in even if they do stop them there would have been an up close easy FG attempt . So the odds if i did get the call were way higher scoring something then not scoring at all.

The 2nd Half happening exactly as it it not changing anything i at least would not have lost and odds are would have won. I know they do not like the new rule. But it is there stupid or not. And if ever there was a time to reverse a call on a PI this was easily it. The fact that they did this out of spite is what eats me up the most.

[captrobey]

Bro Texans scored a grand total of 7 and that came in 4th of a blowout. Over was not a good play. Sucks losing a over when one team gives you 41 that for sure, incredibly frustrating believe me I know, but even ravens 41 was probably higher than they should have scored when you look at total yards in game. Just move on man, step away from it all for a day or 2, that what I do after a bad day, think bout other shit. Certainly don’t start capping more games till you got this one far removed from your mind.

I know i will probably try again coming weekend. But now i almost feel how can you trust any ref to make the right call if they are going to do this crap.