1. #1
    stevenash
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    Why bullpens are so terrible this year.

    Your pal Nasher was playing around with SQL, Excel etc. this morning and I have a theory as to why MLB bullpens are so terrible this season. Actually I have more than one theory, the first one being the most simple theory.

    a) Team bullpens from top to bottom are being severely overused.
    That's why you're seeing so many teams relievers get lit up. Overuse.

    b) Teams are using 'openers' in lieu of 'starters' way too much.
    'Openers' do just that, they open games but don't pitch more than 2 innings or so.
    That means teams must use six or seven innings of relievers.
    And the opener is usually a long reliever so that eliminates one reliever already for that particular game.

    c) The combination of overtaxed bullpen arms and the super ball on steroids that fly off the bat is a multiple home run appearance waiting to happen.

    Here's a few fun facts I've discovered.
    25 out of 30 teams bullpens so far this season have ERA's over 4 (that's a record high)

    There have been over 50 occurrences so far this season where non-pitchers (position players) have pitched in games due to blowouts or relievers not available for whatever reason. That 50 stat already smashed all time records and there's about 36 games on the average left to play.

    Now I'm about to post some tables. (oh no Nasher, not more stats! Well it's who I am, it's what I do.
    The only teams that have sub 4.00 ERA's are Cleveland, Tampa Bay, St. Louis, Houston, and San Francisco.
    Is it any wonder that those five aforementioned teams are division leaders or ahead in the wild card standings.
    Oakland (number six) is also in the thick of the AL wildcard race, just a game and a half back of the Rays.

    This is why you can't discount the Indians, Rays, or the Giants if they make the postseason, they have a commodity that 83 percent of all the other teams don't have, a reliable bullpen.
    Breakdown this even further the division leading Cardinals lead the league in converted save percentage (38 saves in 48 save situations is 79 percent and that is MLB's best) and the Indians are #4 in the MLB save conversion percentage with 73%. The league average in 63 percent.

    This is why I think the Cardinals and the Indians would be scary teams to face in the October playoffs.
    The Astros might be the most complete team in all the majors, their bullpen across the board numbers are pretty much top ten, although the Dodgers lineup is lethal their bullpen is mediocre at best.
    The Cards are also among leaders in the league in least amount of bullpen innings used department. Their arms are fresh.
    Astros are up there too, Astro's with all that hitting, starting pitching and fresh arms in the 'pen are the best team at this point in the majors.

    I keep hearing about how solid the Yankees bullpen is but the 22 blown save number is way to high. NYY does lead the league in saves (48) but a lot of that is due to timely hitting. I still believe however the save requirements need to be changed however. One more thing, New York's bullpen has been overworked all season, 25th out of 30th in most innings used.

    Did you know the Dodgers relievers lead the majors in allowing inherited baserunner to score?
    That's not good, and their bullpen ERA is 4.18 that's not good either.

    Two playoff contending teams have brutal bullpens, they are the Nationals and the Braves.
    The Nationals sport a team bullpen of 6.04 and that ranks rock bottom in the National League.
    The Braves have ugly numbers too. They are below average is save conversions, Braves relievers are the most overtaxed in the National League, which if you go way back to the beginning of this post is the main reason why 25 out of 30 MLB 'pen suck this season.

    My point is this.
    When I handicap baseball games I always start with a teams pitching staff. Bother starters and relievers.
    When I breakdown a teams relief corp I factor in who's available, who's hot etc etc.
    This is why I would consider a Indians or Cards wager more so than a Dodger or Yankees or especially a Braves or Nationals wager.

    Here's the table: Fool around with the numbers if you will.
    (note how brutal the Red Sox are this year)
    R/A is runs allowed per game. WGR is wins in relief. LGR is losses in relief.
    IR is inherited runners, IS is inherited runners scored, and IS% is inherited runners scored percentage.



    Tm RA/G G GR GF Wgr Lgr SVOpp SV BSv SV% Hold IR IS IS%
    ARI 4.67 125 403 125 19 22 46 28 18 61% 60 174 36 21%
    ATL 4.89 126 443 125 32 17 57 35 22 61% 82 215 73 34%
    BAL 6.45 124 392 124 15 21 40 23 17 58% 40 226 92 41%
    BOS 5.14 127 448 125 26 18 47 24 23 51% 70 167 49 29%
    CHC 4.35 124 412 123 26 23 54 31 23 57% 62 201 66 33%
    CHW 5.17 123 399 119 18 16 37 25 12 68% 47 223 69 31%
    CIN 4.38 123 411 123 20 26 49 35 14 71% 63 197 67 34%
    CLE 3.98 125 398 120 26 11 45 33 12 73% 58 203 46 23%
    COL 5.82 124 419 123 20 22 41 21 20 51% 45 176 65 37%
    DET 5.57 122 436 121 19 27 45 25 20 56% 52 184 67 36%
    HOU 4.06 125 370 125 22 15 47 31 16 66% 71 104 29 28%
    KCR 5.18 125 378 123 12 26 45 26 19 58% 47 202 74 37%
    LAA 5.29 126 427 126 37 20 36 27 9 75% 62 183 62 34%
    LAD 3.83 126 387 123 31 20 53 32 21 60% 49 144 60 42%
    MIA 4.87 123 388 122 14 22 35 21 14 60% 37 133 35 26%
    MIL 5.08 124 429 124 31 26 55 35 20 64% 74 173 53 31%
    MIN 4.66 124 384 124 25 18 55 37 18 67% 66 160 46 29%
    NYM 4.73 124 374 121 24 25 53 30 23 57% 45 160 53 33%
    NYY 4.75 126 403 125 35 13 70 48 22 69% 91 173 51 29%
    OAK 4.26 125 419 123 21 20 53 30 23 57% 75 193 62 32%
    PHI 4.92 124 410 121 24 20 44 29 15 66% 69 129 40 31%
    PIT 5.46 123 396 122 23 26 44 24 20 55% 42 148 55 37%
    SDP 4.84 123 402 123 24 23 65 40 25 62% 78 178 53 30%
    SEA 5.69 125 392 122 21 28 45 25 20 56% 48 168 58 35%
    SFG 4.8 125 425 124 31 12 47 33 14 70% 62 167 49 29%
    STL 4.25 122 395 121 26 15 48 38 10 79% 67 193 49 25%
    TBR 3.85 125 434 125 37 26 54 34 20 63% 87 185 55 30%
    TEX 5.35 124 372 121 23 20 38 26 12 68% 44 169 57 34%
    TOR 4.96 127 430 126 30 20 32 24 8 75% 48 194 50 26%
    WSN 4.67 123 406 122 17 29 57 34 23 60% 74 171 69 40%
    LgAvg 4.86 124 406 123 24 21 48 30 18 63% 61 176 56 32%

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    jts1207
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    Nailed it Nasher. Starters rarely go past 6 innings anymore.....terrible.

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    the juiced balls. thats what causes a and b on your list relevant. if u look at average era over the years its always highest in the years when the balls have been expected or known to be juiced. 1987 and the late 90's were big years for juiced balls/steroids and guys were juicing big until testing whatever year that started.

    League Year-By-Year Pitching--Averages


    Year Tms #P PAge R/G ERA G GF CG SHO tSho SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP BAbip H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W E
    2019 30 775 28.5 4.86 4.54 3732 0.99 0.01 0.01 0.05 0.24 8.93 8.72 4.86 4.50 1.41 3.25 0.16 8.73 0.40 0.03 0.37 38.39 1.341 .299 8.8 1.4 3.3 8.8 2.69 0.61
    2018 30 799 28.4 4.45 4.15 4862 0.99 0.01 0.00 0.06 0.26 8.94 8.44 4.45 4.12 1.15 3.23 0.19 8.48 0.40 0.03 0.38 38.08 1.304 .295 8.5 1.2 3.2 8.5 2.63 0.57
    2017 30 755 28.5 4.65 4.36 4860 0.99 0.01 0.01 0.05 0.24 8.90 8.69 4.65 4.31 1.26 3.26 0.20 8.25 0.36 0.03 0.37 38.13 1.342 .300 8.8 1.3 3.3 8.3 2.53 0.58
    2016 30 742 28.3 4.48 4.19 4856 0.98 0.02 0.01 0.06 0.26 8.92 8.71 4.48 4.15 1.16 3.11 0.19 8.03 0.34 0.03 0.37 38.01 1.325 .300 8.8 1.2 3.1 8.1 2.58 0.58
    2015 30 735 28.4 4.25 3.96 4858 0.98 0.02 0.01 0.07 0.27 8.94 8.67 4.25 3.93 1.01 2.90 0.20 7.71 0.33 0.03 0.36 37.80 1.294 .299 8.7 1.0 2.9 7.8 2.66 0.58
    2014 30 692 28.5 4.07 3.74 4860 0.98 0.02 0.01 0.07 0.26 8.97 8.56 4.07 3.73 0.86 2.88 0.20 7.70 0.34 0.03 0.35 37.85 1.275 .298 8.6 0.9 2.9 7.7 2.67 0.60
    2013 30 679 28.4 4.17 3.87 4862 0.97 0.03 0.01 0.07 0.26 8.98 8.66 4.17 3.86 0.96 3.01 0.21 7.55 0.32 0.03 0.36 38.02 1.300 .297 8.7 1.0 3.0 7.6 2.51 0.56
    2012 30 662 28.4 4.32 4.01 4860 0.97 0.03 0.01 0.06 0.26 8.92 8.65 4.32 3.98 1.02 3.03 0.22 7.50 0.31 0.03 0.32 37.90 1.309 .297 8.7 1.0 3.1 7.6 2.48 0.62
    2011 30 662 28.3 4.28 3.94 4858 0.96 0.04 0.02 0.07 0.26 8.96 8.70 4.28 3.92 0.94 3.09 0.25 7.10 0.32 0.03 0.32 38.13 1.316 .295 8.7 0.9 3.1 7.1 2.30 0.63
    2010 30 635 28.4 4.38 4.08 4860 0.97 0.03 0.01 0.07 0.25 8.91 8.76 4.38 4.04 0.95 3.25 0.25 7.06 0.32 0.04 0.34 38.18 1.347 .297 8.8 1.0 3.3 7.1 2.17 0.62
    2009 30 664 28.4 4.61 4.32 4860 0.97 0.03 0.01 0.06 0.25 8.90 8.96 4.61 4.28 1.04 3.42 0.24 6.91 0.33 0.03 0.33 38.49 1.390 .299 9.1 1.0 3.5 7.0 2.02 0.59
    2008 30 651 28.6 4.65 4.32 4856 0.97 0.03 0.01 0.06 0.24 8.93 9.06 4.65 4.29 1.00 3.36 0.27 6.77 0.34 0.03 0.32 38.64 1.391 .300 9.1 1.0 3.4 6.8 2.01 0.61
    2007 30 666 28.7 4.80 4.47 4862 0.98 0.02 0.01 0.05 0.25 8.93 9.25 4.80 4.44 1.02 3.31 0.27 6.62 0.36 0.03 0.31 38.80 1.406 .302 9.3 1.0 3.3 6.7 2.00 0.61
    2006 30 635 28.8 4.86 4.53 4858 0.97 0.03 0.01 0.05 0.25 8.90 9.28 4.86 4.48 1.11 3.26 0.29 6.52 0.37 0.03 0.31 38.71 1.408 .301 9.4 1.1 3.3 6.6 2.00 0.63
    2005 30 606 29.2 4.59 4.29 4862 0.96 0.04 0.01 0.05 0.26 8.89 9.05 4.59 4.24 1.03 3.13 0.25 6.30 0.37 0.03 0.30 38.32 1.369 .295 9.2 1.0 3.2 6.4 2.02 0.63
    2004 30 632 29.1 4.81 4.46 4856 0.97 0.03 0.01 0.05 0.25 8.94 9.17 4.81 4.43 1.12 3.34 0.28 6.55 0.38 0.03 0.30 38.83 1.400 .297 9.2 1.1 3.4 6.6 1.96 0.65
    2003 30 612 28.7 4.73 4.40 4860 0.96 0.04 0.01 0.05 0.25 8.92 9.07 4.73 4.36 1.07 3.27 0.27 6.34 0.38 0.03 0.32 38.57 1.383 .294 9.1 1.1 3.3 6.4 1.94 0.65
    2002 30 609 28.8 4.62 4.28 4852 0.96 0.04 0.02 0.06 0.25 8.92 8.92 4.62 4.24 1.04 3.35 0.30 6.47 0.36 0.03 0.31 38.46 1.376 .293 9.0 1.1 3.4 6.5 1.93 0.66
    2001 30 591 28.7 4.78 4.42 4858 0.96 0.04 0.02 0.05 0.25 8.91 9.03 4.78 4.37 1.12 3.25 0.28 6.67 0.39 0.03 0.31 38.49 1.379 .296 9.1 1.1 3.3 6.7 2.05 0.69
    2000 30 606 28.8 5.14 4.77 4858 0.95 0.05 0.01 0.04 0.24 8.90 9.31 5.14 4.72 1.17 3.75 0.25 6.45 0.32 0.03 0.31 39.16 1.468 .300 9.4 1.2 3.8 6.5 1.72 0.71
    1999 30 585 28.8 5.08 4.71 4856 0.95 0.05 0.01 0.04 0.25 8.90 9.33 5.08 4.66 1.14 3.68 0.23 6.41 0.33 0.04 0.34 39.06 1.463 .302 9.4 1.2 3.7 6.5 1.74 0.72
    1998 30 557 28.8 4.79 4.43 4864 0.94 0.06 0.02 0.05 0.26 8.93 9.15 4.79 4.40 1.04 3.38 0.22 6.56 0.33 0.04 0.33 38.71 1.403 .299 9.2 1.0 3.4 6.6 1.94 0.71
    1997 28 534 28.5 4.77 4.39 4532 0.94 0.06 0.02 0.05 0.25 8.93 9.15 4.77 4.35 1.02 3.46 0.26 6.61 0.32 0.04 0.33 38.73 1.412 .301 9.2 1.0 3.5 6.7 1.91 0.71
    1996 28 538 28.4 5.04 4.61 4534 0.94 0.06 0.02 0.04 0.25 8.95 9.33 5.04 4.58 1.09 3.55 0.30 6.46 0.31 0.04 0.34 39.10 1.440 .301 9.4 1.1 3.6 6.5 1.82 0.74
    1995 28 552 28.3 4.85 4.45 4034 0.93 0.07 0.02 0.05 0.25 8.93 9.17 4.85 4.42 1.01 3.53 0.27 6.30 0.30 0.05 0.35 38.85 1.421 .298 9.2 1.0 3.6 6.4 1.79 0.72
    Year Tms #P PAge R/G ERA G GF CG SHO tSho SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP BAbip H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W E
    1994 28 470 28.6 4.92 4.51 3200 0.92 0.08 0.02 0.04 0.24 8.93 9.29 4.92 4.48 1.03 3.48 0.32 6.18 0.27 0.05 0.36 38.90 1.430 .300 9.4 1.0 3.5 6.2 1.78 0.74
    1993 28 507 28.5 4.60 4.19 4538 0.92 0.08 0.02 0.05 0.26 8.93 9.05 4.60 4.16 0.89 3.33 0.33 5.80 0.26 0.07 0.32 38.47 1.387 .294 9.1 0.9 3.4 5.8 1.74 0.77
    1992 26 441 28.6 4.12 3.75 4212 0.90 0.10 0.03 0.07 0.26 8.98 8.68 4.12 3.74 0.72 3.25 0.31 5.59 0.23 0.05 0.31 38.12 1.328 .285 8.7 0.7 3.3 5.6 1.72 0.73
    1991 26 475 28.3 4.31 3.91 4208 0.91 0.09 0.03 0.06 0.27 8.98 8.69 4.31 3.90 0.80 3.32 0.29 5.80 0.22 0.06 0.33 38.20 1.338 .285 8.7 0.8 3.3 5.8 1.74 0.74
    1990 26 483 28.4 4.26 3.86 4210 0.90 0.10 0.03 0.06 0.26 8.92 8.75 4.26 3.83 0.79 3.29 0.33 5.67 0.20 0.07 0.32 38.08 1.349 .287 8.8 0.8 3.3 5.7 1.72 0.76
    1989 26 449 28.6 4.13 3.71 4212 0.89 0.11 0.04 0.07 0.25 8.95 8.62 4.13 3.69 0.73 3.21 0.34 5.61 0.19 0.10 0.31 37.99 1.321 .283 8.7 0.7 3.2 5.6 1.75 0.80
    1988 26 438 28.5 4.14 3.73 4200 0.85 0.15 0.04 0.07 0.25 8.97 8.63 4.14 3.72 0.76 3.09 0.33 5.56 0.22 0.22 0.30 37.95 1.307 .282 8.7 0.8 3.1 5.6 1.80 0.77
    1987 26 426 28.4 4.72 4.29 4210 0.87 0.13 0.03 0.05 0.23 8.93 9.00 4.72 4.26 1.06 3.42 0.31 5.96 0.20 0.08 0.32 38.46 1.391 .289 9.1 1.1 3.4 6.0 1.74 0.78

    Last edited by jtoler; 08-19-19 at 11:59 AM.

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