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08-17-19 05:34 PM #36
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08-17-19 05:38 PM #37
Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats
Originally Posted by 2daBank
As far as winning home games and the win/loss record at home over the last 11 years or so, both MIN and GB are in the top handful of teams. Originally Posted by lakerboy
Here they are in order, whether or not you include the playoffs in addition to the regular season...
1 NE 2 GB 3 BAL 4 SEA 5 PIT 6 NO 7 MIN
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08-17-19 05:53 PM #38
Two different stadiums Originally Posted by thomorino
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08-17-19 06:01 PM #39
Here are the home records over the last 5 years, just the regular season...
1 NE 34-6 2 KC 30-9 3 PIT 29-11 SEA 29-11 4 GB 28-11-1 5 MIN 28-12 6 CAR 27-13 PHI 27-13
Here it is over the last 5 years when you include the playoffs...
1 NE 42-6 2 SEA 32-11 3 GB 30-11-1 4 KC 31-12 5 CAR 30-13 PIT 30-13 7 MIN 29-13 PHI 29-13
Remember, these are just the win loss records over this time, and including playoffs.
But just being the team with the most wins at home doesn't exactly constitute HFA.
There has to be an advantage over the league or opponent, or even over the road record.
So calculating an advantage will take more than those records, as the opponent will have a road strength as well.
We're not talking spreads here, so it isn't as involved to work out, usually.
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08-17-19 06:01 PM #40
Home is home. Originally Posted by lakerboy
Holmes.
Although it might not be, exactly, for this Minnesota case, so you may be right.
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08-17-19 06:12 PM #41
Here's how the NFC North teams have done against each other over the last 5 years, while playing at home...
MIN 9-6 -0.5 DET 9-6 -1.5 GB 8-6-1 -3.5 CHI 6-9 -3
These are the home records vs the division over the last 5 years and if a bettor had bet the same unit to win on each game, they would be down what's listed.
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08-17-19 06:16 PM #42
Minnesota has regressed as a team imo. Zimmer's teams peaked and I don't think they have a great squad like they did for the majority of that 5 year stretch. Besides the division games they have Originally Posted by KVB
Home is home.
Holmes.
Although it might not be, exactly, for this Minnesota case, so you may be right.
Falcons
Eagles
Raiders
Redskins
Broncos
At home. 5-3 at best at home. They will need to win 5 road games to win this division and that is not happening.Points Awarded:
KVB gave lakerboy 1 Betpoint(s) for this post.
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08-17-19 06:21 PM #43
Vikings.
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08-17-19 06:21 PM #44
Right, I didn’t doubt minny was good at home, just that the other north teams didn’t have same edge. Bears not being up there speaks to how bad they sucked before they brought in the new regime, not to soldier field not being a tough place to play. Fats just being a typical homer which fine but a shame, if guys could just be objective and reasonable about their teams they would actually have a lot to offer us! (Aka me w the cardinals! Originally Posted by KVB
As far as winning home games and the win/loss record at home over the last 11 years or so, both MIN and GB are in the top handful of teams.
Here they are in order, whether or not you include the playoffs in addition to the regular season...
1 NE 2 GB 3 BAL 4 SEA 5 PIT 6 NO 7 MIN
). Can’t stand “fans” who think being honest and objective about theri team is somehow blasphemy!! Lol
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08-17-19 06:24 PM #45
Plus those type fans give others a bad name!! I couldn’t convince Mfers I wasn’t being a homer when I was telling them blues were gonna win the cup!! As if I hadn’t faded them for over a decade in playoffs before that run!’ Lol
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08-17-19 06:39 PM #46
Vikes 19-7 at home in US Bank Stadium
Best home record in NFL behind Saints and Eagles last 3 years
GB has a QB that can't finish a season, and no RBs
Chi is the team to regress. Yes, their D is very good, but Turbinsky extended more drives with 3rd down runs and the Bears got more 3rd down penalties than any other team in the NFC last year, that's not going to repeat itself
Vikes schedule is mediocre with Washington, Oakland, Dallas, Seattle, SD. Vikes will be favored or pick in 3 of those games especially with the RB situations in Dal and SD. Only Philly will have a chance to be favored in MN and only if Wentz is healthy. In division the home teams usually favored but MN will be favored in both Det games I believe.
10-6
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08-17-19 06:40 PM #47
....and yes, they're still the San Diego Chargers to me. Fukk the NFL.
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08-18-19 08:35 AM #48
As said by many already, Minny has had a solid home field advantage su and ats (Both over 60%)last several years. They close this season with pack and bears at home.
North will be a close division this year imo. It will come down to final few weeks when they all play each other. I lean to pack or vikes.
Minny is in must win mode. Zimmer has to be feeling heat. Same for Cousins. I think he has been a trash qb his entire career but will have a decent upcoming regular season. Defense can only be strong if offense can give them time to rest.
Gb’s defense has the potential to be very good. Tons of speed and size. Rogers really needs to trust his young receivers and take more shots downfield like pre 16.
I dont think trubisky will ever improve enough to take bears to next level. Good team otherwise.
Lions have some good players but coach is awful. When that brutal line gets Stafford hurt they will be playing for #1 pick.
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08-18-19 10:18 PM #49
I don't have confidence in Minnesota closing it out until I see Kirk not wilting away like he did last season in big games. This is the same team that was 16 point favorites and lost to Buffalo at home last year.
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08-19-19 09:53 AM #50
Packers worst team in The North
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08-19-19 05:50 PM #51
Yes Cousins is going to be a HOF qb Originally Posted by 2daBank
He is on pace to surpass 65,000 passing yards by age 40
That's 5th all time, with a higher comp % than all of the rest of the top 10. He is best QB in football on a straight numbers argument (not intangibles- I get it, he hasn't won anything and doesnt create tds)
If Rivers is a HOF the Cousins will be HOF
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08-19-19 05:53 PM #52
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08-19-19 05:55 PM #53
Jfc man, don’t you realize the standard for numbers will continue to get way higher as they becoming easy to put up? Cousins putting up numbers proves anybody can do it. There no fukkin chance in hell cousins will be in the HOF, just stop you giving Vikings fans a bad name. Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats
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08-19-19 06:17 PM #54
That Buffalo game was day after our DLineman went crazy and pulled a gun on half the Vikes team....needless to say it messed them Originally Posted by mrpapageorgio
DiFilipo gone, MN spent on average 5 minutes more per game on D last year because his offense was so up tempo and pass oriented
Look for 2019 Vikes to be top 10 in league rushing, top 8 in TOP (love the new zone blocking Oline- huge screen game potential) and top 5 in total D and #1 on getting off field on 3rd down
Vikes 10-6 maybe 11-5
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08-19-19 06:21 PM #55
It doesn't matter- if the guy retires top 10 in total passing yards he's going into the HOF. He's going to retire with at least 65,000 which is easily safe top 5, ge might pass a few others if he throws for 4500 per year instead of 4200 average. I understand the passing numbers are watered down, but the longevity and consistently gets rewarded too in HOF Originally Posted by 2daBank
It's like saying Jim Thome isn't a HOFer because everyone hits home runs. Jim Thome is a HOFer just like Babe Ruth is.
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08-19-19 06:23 PM #56
Bears or Vikings Originally Posted by Hman
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08-19-19 06:53 PM #57
D only gets you so far if you can't score. They have the same problem the Bears have. Kirk hasn't shown to be clutch on this team. Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats
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08-19-19 07:00 PM #58
I have to roll with the Vikings this year. Zimmer + Year 2 Kirk, they have to get it done considering the landscape.
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08-19-19 07:00 PM #59
Some scrub who never been considered even the 10th best qb at time he playing aint going to the HOF, fukkin book that shit cause it will never happen!! Insane how big a homer you are. Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats
Nomination(s):This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: USCPHILLYGUY
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08-19-19 08:04 PM #60
I'm not a homer, far from it
I've like Kirk gor a long time
Thought Wash was better than Philly 2 years ago w him
He's going to the HOF. Long list of mediocre QBs going to HOF based on yardage alone...
Bledsoe, Testaverde, Palmer, Manning 2, Rivers, Ryan, Collins, Roethlisberger
I bet 5 of these guys get in alone
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08-20-19 11:10 AM #61
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08-20-19 11:27 AM #62
You are nothing more than a homer. Period! Cousins is nothing more than a talented choke artist. That has been proven throughout his career. Minny will suffer big time on the road. 2-6 is certainly possible and that knocks them out of the Division race. They also open with Atlanta and host Philly. The NFC North is going nowhere after the regular season. The NFC South is certainly more talented and the Eagles are much better than anyone the NFC North has to offer. The Rams and Seattle can also compete with any NFC North team. Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats
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08-20-19 11:30 AM #63
2 team race with Bears and Vikes.
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08-20-19 11:44 AM #64
too close to call. if Packers get it together as a team then they win the division. i'll still take Aaron Rodgers over Kirk Cousins anytime when game is on the line. i think it'll come down to Vikings vs Packers for division crown
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08-20-19 11:45 AM #65
Packers wont be close. Originally Posted by SmokingKing
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08-20-19 01:10 PM #66
This Originally Posted by jts1207
Green Bay is so far beyond competitive it's a joke
It'll take everything Rodgers has to make them 8-8 and he's just so fragile lately....
The coaching change is going to be a disaster
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08-20-19 01:53 PM #67
Skol!
Fade da Bears this season.
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08-20-19 02:13 PM #68
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08-20-19 02:13 PM #69
Learn the game man Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH
You're gonna lose your bankroll betting ATL week 1
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08-20-19 02:54 PM #70
Chicago’s offense would need to slip badly before losing the North, and there’s really no reason to think Trubisky regresses. Similarly, what makes anyone think that last season’s best scoring defense is suddenly going to fold? Packers and Vikes appear to be on roster treadmill – going nowhere fast – and the Lions are - the Lions. The Bears may not go 12-4 again, but should cruise to another division title.
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