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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBacon View Post
    Lets demand China stops ripping off the American worker and tax payer.
    How exactly is China ripping off the American worker, who is presumably a tax payer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBacon View Post
    Have you ever heard of a negotiating tact?

    You get hysterical like the other tards around here and for no reason.

    It's the perfect spot for Trump to attack. China does not want anyone to leave OR discourage new business. The US is 1/3 of their GDP. You have any idea what happens when you get 1 billion chinamen unemployed?

    Dont be anti-American. Lets demand China stops ripping off the American worker and tax payer.
    What's the negotiating tact? Convince Xi that you're batshit crazy? Now Xi knows Trump is not long for office. Any chance there was before is now gone, unless Trump is forced to cave. Forced being the operative word. A 25th Amendment meeting might do the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    What's the negotiating tact? Convince Xi that you're batshit crazy? Now Xi knows Trump is not long for office. Any chance there was before is now gone, unless Trump is forced to cave. Forced being the operative word. A 25th Amendment meeting might do the trick.
    Do you look at everything as a simpleton in 1 dimension?

    Sure China would like to run out the clock and get a brain dead Biden in there. Obviously.

    But everyday folks are not only leaving but reconsidering going to China. To unstable with pricing. Could be a 10% tariff, could be a 150% tariff.

    China could gamble but Trump is a near PICK to be reelected and China could lose everything if he is elected and no longer wants a deal.

    So if you are Trump you are playing it exactly like you are. If you are China you are entering a lose-lose scenario. China needs to cut their losses and get a deal before 1 billion chinamen get unemployed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    A civics lesson by ordering US companies to do what he wants?

    He's trying to fight the economic influence of Communist China by ordering American Companies to do what he wants? Got it.
    Why you wouldn’t want American companies to manufacture and produce in the United States shows how stupid you are. Of course he can’t order that but he’s applying pressure, 25th amendment lmao omg what happened to Russia you guys are ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBacon View Post
    Do you look at everything as a simpleton in 1 dimension?

    Sure China would like to run out the clock and get a brain dead Biden in there. Obviously.

    But everyday folks are not only leaving but reconsidering going to China. To unstable with pricing. Could be a 10% tariff, could be a 150% tariff.

    China could gamble but Trump is a near PICK to be reelected and China could lose everything if he is elected and no longer wants a deal.

    So if you are Trump you are playing it exactly like you are. If you are China you are entering a lose-lose scenario. China needs to cut their losses and get a deal before 1 billion chinamen get unemployed.
    We're all too simpleton to understand the batshit crazy, unconstitutional, market crashing, wannabe dictator, tweeting strategy.

    Trump could kill a man on 5th Avenue and for you it would be some jedi multi-dimensional strategy for American domination that only an America hater could object to.

    You are beyond hope.

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    Trade wars are easy to win. The orange chosen one of the people of Israel will win this trade war and buy Greenland too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Trade wars are easy to win. The orange chosen one of the people of Israel will win this trade war and buy Greenland too.
    He wants to buy a freaking continent, obscene!

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    Over half of the US was purchased including Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi valley, Alaska.

    And if climate hoaxers are correct they should be the biggest supporters of buying Greenland?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBacon View Post
    Over half of the US was purchased including Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi valley, Alaska.And if climate hoaxers are correct they should be the biggest supporters of buying Greenland?????
    You really think climate change is a hoax? Damn you F’n dumb...

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    If Clinton and Bush had taken Trump's attitude, China wouldn't have the leverage it does now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    Why you wouldn’t want American companies to manufacture and produce in the United States shows how stupid you are. Of course he can’t order that but he’s applying pressure, 25th amendment lmao omg what happened to Russia you guys are ridiculous.
    Do you know why companies don’t manufacture/produce shit in America? Because Labor is too expensive because everyone wants to raise minimum wage. Why would I have my company in the US and pay too much for lazy, uneducated, unskilled, entitled people that think they deserve a job instead of earning a job? Why hire here where people bitch and moan about everything? Too much politics and people who can’t agree to work together. Where employees don’t work safe, yet waiting to sue if they get hurt on the job. American companies can’t compete because American people are shitty workers. American companies have to move to other countries in order to compete, else go out of business.

    I can hire 20 people in India or the Philippines for what it cost for 1 American. You guys are concerned about Mexicans coming into the US taking jobs but you are fukking blind. Mexicans are taking jobs Americans, especially our young kids don’t want. We need them to cook, clean and build because we don’t want to.

    The real threat is the emerging countries like the India’s of the world that are taking our middle class jobs. I know because I help companies set up shop. Tens of thousands of great middle class jobs in finance, IT, HR, etc., have been offshored, outsourced, offloaded to other countries. Companies are looking for ways to get more transactional, in order to outsource to dirt cheap countries. Go on google earth and look how many skyscrapers are going up in Makati, Ph for example. In just a few years, it’s bigger than downtown Chicago or LA. The next phase that is already happening is for the computers to take the jobs of the cheap labor in those countries.

    Wake the fukk up. We don’t need a physical wall, we need a firewall but even that won’t stop companies from setting up shop anywhere but the US. I worked with a company that had 30,000 US workers. In 5 years that was cut in half. The jobs are still around but not in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHorseplayer View Post
    If Clinton and Bush had taken Trump's attitude, China wouldn't have the leverage it does now.
    Like it or not, China WILL be the largest economic world power.

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    Wake the fukk up. We don’t need a physical wall, we need a firewall but even that won’t stop companies from setting up shop anywhere but the US. I worked with a company that had 30,000 US workers. In 5 years that was cut in half. The jobs are still around but not in the US.


    The 1 million+ vagrants that walk across the border do take massive amounts of tax dollars and do water down wages for real Americans. The 1 million in legal migrants also water down wages.

    The reason we need to not have open borders is because we have 4.5 Syria's within walking distance.
    These countries are all top 10 murders per captia countries. No difference than having a nice house in a bad neighborhood. One day those countries will start fighting as the peasants rise up and we will have millions of vagrants walking across our border.

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    Down 9/16/19

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    If Dow Jones Industrial Average goes down today I win

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    Ballsy bet w GM issues and Oil issues looming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CareTheDare View Post
    Down 9/16/19

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    If Dow Jones Industrial Average goes down today I win
    Futures are down -110 BUT... about 20% of the market is tied to energy. That area could be up sharply and could carry the market by the close if there is any positive news on the Saudi/Iran front.

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