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    New York has had horse racing for a hundred years. Still can’t get it right. Sports betting there will be one hilarious $hit show

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    ridiculous! Nobody driving Upsate NY to those dumps to bet......
    Cuomo is an idiot.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by allabout the $$$ View Post
    lets be honest not much sportsbetting wise going on memorial day weekend. march madness it was pretty packed. im sure football season its packed.
    I was literally one of three people in an entire sports book.. regardless, its not a good look

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    Quote Originally Posted by betsmart View Post
    ridiculous! Nobody driving Upsate NY to those dumps to bet......
    Cuomo is an idiot.........
    all about in app betting. people won't have to go

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    Sweeper - You’ll have to call up New York’s GA and ask for sports picks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reload View Post
    Sweeper - You’ll have to call up New York’s GA and ask for sports picks
    im overdue for a good vid

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    the value is in getting paid...look at the industry forum and tell me offshore is +1 over USA.....
    The value is in making money. You won't be able to make money with legal/regulated books. It's mind blowing people actually think this is going to kill offshore. Those that are betting REAL money and not just firing $2-$25 on games will stay offshore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    Good night offshore, hardley knew yeah
    Books like Heritage, 5 Dimes and Bookmaker aren't going anywhere, the first two because of reduced juice, which is the primary reason they get most of my action despite my ability to bet legally in PA, and Bookmaker because of huge limits.

    With that said, I have actually made some bets at Sugar House because that have occasionally had better lines on my plays, especially for MLB Totals. Still, I disagree with the reliable offshores going away in my lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    The value is in making money. You won't be able to make money with legal/regulated books. It's mind blowing people actually think this is going to kill offshore. Those that are betting REAL money and not just firing $2-$25 on games will stay offshore.
    no point to leave off shore..

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    Quote Originally Posted by byronbb View Post
    The greek knew the writing was on the wall.
    What does Greek have to do with anything pertaining to USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    all about in app betting. people won't have to go
    NY is not going to have app wagering for at least 3-5 years. Have to go to brick and mortar casino

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    the value is in getting paid...look at the industry forum and tell me offshore is +1 over USA.....
    Getting paid is not even a concern at the offshores I use, so the reduced juice is paramount, especially for guys like me that bet every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Getting paid is not even a concern at the offshores I use, so the reduced juice is paramount, especially for guys like me that bet every day.
    For someone that's had $20k on Sportsbook, $10k on MyBookie and $8k on Betagame. All which are low rated books or not rated by SBR and I've been paid every cent every time. MyBookie was the only one who needed time to "review" for 24 hours and it's been problem free since.

    I get paid faster offshore than I do from the NJ sites in most cases too.

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    You might want to think that offshore will be going away any time soon but in reality it would take years before they take a major hit.
    and even then those offshore books will come up with ways to keep most players.
    be it more books offering reduced juice, more wager types, more props and better bonuses with maybe no or less rollovers

    you also might want to hang onto those offshore books for better lines

    what about the big players ? or those 8-10 team parlays. Do you really want to share some of that money to "uncle sam" ?

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    The U.S is not the entire market for most of these offshore books. Just look at all the books that have left the U.S market and are doing just fine. I can get paid within a half hour playing offshore so faster payouts are not an issue either. And not many people want to drive hours away to place a bet when you can bet at home. Offshore is going nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    The U.S is not the entire market for most of these offshore books. Just look at all the books that have left the U.S market and are doing just fine. I can get paid within a half hour playing offshore so faster payouts are not an issue either. And not many people want to drive hours away to place a bet when you can bet at home. Offshore is going nowhere.
    Exactly this. Especially seeing as NY wont have apps anytime soon. I live 5 minutes from NY state line but it will be closer for me to get a bet down by driving to New Jersey than it would be for me to drive to closest NY Casino that would have a sportsbook.

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    Offshore is actually going to get bigger and bigger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    JJ in Panic mode
    Of course he is. Who else is going to pay him $500 a week to post drivel on the internet?

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    Offshore is booming


    Only the suckers are going to bet high juice Because they think getting paid fast is so important but gamblers are losers so it doesn’t matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    "please send us a selfie of you holding your rooster and an electric bill....we might need a reach around and a blow bang. Thanks in advance, the KYC department"
    So true. Just had an issue with Bet America bonuses that was resolved in 6 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Getting paid is not even a concern at the offshores I use, so the reduced juice is paramount, especially for guys like me that bet every day.


    This can't be overstated, it is the very essence of a lot of offshore betting money, no matter the country it comes from.

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    Offshore will be fine, Vegas real estate will suffer a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    For someone that's had $20k on Sportsbook, $10k on MyBookie and $8k on Betagame. All which are low rated books or not rated by SBR and I've been paid every cent every time. MyBookie was the only one who needed time to "review" for 24 hours and it's been problem free since.

    I get paid faster offshore than I do from the NJ sites in most cases too.


    Literally 5 minutes via ACH & PP and 15 mins from the time across the bridge to the cage at Resorts / Trop / Ocean

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    most people do not live close to books

    a hassle parking, etc

    lines just too good offshore maybe other than NFL Spreads

    Do not bet Money Lines USA most too high juice

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    Until these books have online wagering it doesn’t mean much.

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    California next?

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    Unless you can place a wager in grocery store while buying mega million ticket i doubt it will be successful here. No way in hell im traveling to casino to place a wager.

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    PA #s have been low because no mobile betting

    Majority of NJ books barely making a profit due to bad lines and over crowding of the market

    AC books empty

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    Quote Originally Posted by eidolon View Post
    California next?
    Not even close, it sounds, and Cali would be the largest sports betting market in the country.

    The Cali constitution added a ballot in 2000 that gives jurisdiction over all gambling to Native American Tribes, it's considered de jure and their fundamental right.

    Racetracks and card rooms are the other gambling entities but they are essentially frozen because the Tribes rule.

    Every bill or mention of legalized sportsbetting in Cali gets squashed by the Tribes.

    Citizens are trying though, they just can't get anything going over the last few years.

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    Offshore 'runners' are all over Cali... CASH settle
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    Make no mistake, we're getting down out here, but man it's crazy how the legislature allows one group so much power over gambling, enough to sway votes and kill bills.

    The Tribes never were dialed into the Vegas lines, they weren't their lines to sell, but now they could get a chance.

    I think there is a fear that a fantasy site or even Will Hill will take over, the Tribes continue to protect their interest.

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    Sammy give us a number

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post

    Sammy give us a number

    a settle number ?

    keep it low so you wont get in trouble...

    $3K

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    Cali would be the biggest sport betting market in the country.

    Not sure anyone is close.

    But hey, the estimated $100 million in state revenue, which is nothing compared to the billions dollar budget, could go to pay for the bill making it's way through the state legislature that forces Cali to pay for the healthcare of illegal alien males 19-25 years old.

    When it came time to add the figure for care for citizens over age 65, the lawmakers said there wasn't enough money for that, we can't afford that.

    Unreal.

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