[GzaTheGenius]

Just got 150 in a contest dont know what to do with it, figured id just gambke it all away.

Is nitro still the top btc book?

[eaglesfan371]

Depends on what you enjoy betting and what you prefer. If you prefer an easy to use interface, the ability to make parlay bets, a degen chat to talk to other degens, then yes Nitrogen would be best.

If you prefer best odds in the industry, then no Nitrogen would not be best. Fairlay is the best for books that have balances in bitcoin. Fairlay offers Pinnacle lines or better. Nitrogen adds 2-5 cents to each side of Pinnacle lines.

Nitrogen processes most withdrawals under 30 minutes. Fairlay withdraws are instant (<1 minute) but require a 0.00025 bitcoin fee (~$1.25 fee).

[GzaTheGenius]

Depends on what you enjoy betting and what you prefer. If you prefer an easy to use interface, the ability to make parlay bets, a degen chat to talk to other degens, then yes Nitrogen would be best.

If you prefer best odds in the industry, then no Nitrogen would not be best. Fairlay is the best for books that have balances in bitcoin. Fairlay offers Pinnacle lines or better. Nitrogen adds 2-5 cents to each side of Pinnacle lines.

Nitrogen processes most withdrawals under 30 minutes. Fairlay withdraws are instant (<1 minute) but require a 0.00025 bitcoin fee (~$1.25 fee).

Probably mostly sports betting but like that nitro has poker too, will look into fairlay though. Thanks

[eaglesfan371]

Probably mostly sports betting but like that nitro has poker too, will look into fairlay though. Thanks

Another downside to Fairlay is they do not offer parlays but for straight bets offer the best odds. The betting interface can be confusing so feel free to post here with any questions.

Basically, odds will be posted for one side of an event. If you want to bet ON that side, you click on the odds in GREEN. If you want to bet AGAINST the listed event, you would click the odds in RED.

[jjgold]

pass

whore shit software
not in usd

suckers

[raiders72001]

Just got 150 in a contest dont know what to do with it, figured id just gambke it all away.

Is nitro still the top btc book?

Nitrogen #1.

[Hman]

Take Raiders' advice on anything Bitcoin.

[danshan11]

Nitrogen is cool and simple but for sportsbook straight or total bets nothing better than fairlay period!

[RudyRuetigger]

im getting tired of it to be honest

[JAKEPEAVY21]

does fairlay have NFL draft props?

I've been meaning to try them out for awhile.

[jjgold]

I just. Don’t like it to anonymous including owners

[danshan11]

does fairlay have NFL draft props?

I've been meaning to try them out for awhile.

have not seen them, I wish they were there I keep checking every 10 minutes LOL

[swordsandtequila]

Betcoin's good for soccer. lots of markets

[pattymayo]

As someone who mostly bets soccer and tennis I like nitros selection of lower level soccer and spreads and totals on challenger tennis. Love the “starting soon” option though that often doesn’t have everything starting soon.

Their live betting leaves a lot to be desired, I wish they had something like 5dimes live betting ultra

Payouts are speedy so that’s a huge plus.

[pattymayo]

Fairlay doesn’t accept US players, right?

What other options do US players have?

[danshan11]

Fairlay doesn’t accept US players, right?

What other options do US players have?

yes they accept US players

[punintended]

Is Fairlay linked to Pinny in any way? Meaning, if I bet the max on some game on Fairlay will the odds change on Pinny?

[eaglesfan371]

As someone who mostly bets soccer and tennis I like nitros selection of lower level soccer and spreads and totals on challenger tennis. Love the “starting soon” option though that often doesn’t have everything starting soon.

Their live betting leaves a lot to be desired, I wish they had something like 5dimes live betting ultra

Payouts are speedy so that’s a huge plus.

If you bet lower leagues and challenger you’re a fool to bet on those matches at Nitrogen. Those leagues are the ones that Nitrogen adds 5-10 cents to EACH SIDE. I can get -110/-110 on challenger lines on Fairlay AND the ability to bet on the matches live on fairlay at -112/-112. Nitrogen minimum -115/-115 on challenger.

Any match that is offered on Nitrogen is available at Fairlay at BETTER odds. Props are the only thing Nitrogen might have that Fairlay won’t. I know the world loves Nitrogen but branch out and you might see how much those worse odds are costing you. Guarantee over the last year my winning bets have paid out at least $300 more on Fairlay vs betting them on Nitrogen.

[eaglesfan371]

Is Fairlay linked to Pinny in any way? Meaning, if I bet the max on some game on Fairlay will the odds change on Pinny?

Yes, their odds are linked to Pinnacle and Fairlay is available to US players. We are unable to determine if Fairlay API is able to determine how sharp a player is but if you max bet a side, you will see Pinny odds drop a bit. Max bets are high though, usually 500 mbtc (0.5 bitcoin) minimum. Major sports right before game, 2000-10000 mbtc (2-10 bitcoin)

[danshan11]

Is Fairlay linked to Pinny in any way? Meaning, if I bet the max on some game on Fairlay will the odds change on Pinny?

from all the data I have looked at NO the line does not move because of action on fairlay directly, Fairlay is possibly more like probably funded by Pinny they had said that directly in chat but I am not 100% sure of that. I do notice that if fairlay starts getting heavy betting action on a side usually you will see the line moving at all books so of course fairlay follows course.
there was about a half million dumped in 10 minutes on Portland the other night and the line did not even blink.

I also have ran about a zillion tests and have not found anything that seems to leak or give the market maker access to the bettor who places the bet. Also it would be nearly impossible for them to track bettors anyway because you can make as many accounts as you want and they have zero KYC AML that I have seen up to this point, that is my opinion not a fact!

[punintended]

Yes, their odds are linked to Pinnacle and Fairlay is available to US players. We are unable to determine if Fairlay API is able to determine how sharp a player is but if you max bet a side, you will see Pinny odds drop a bit. Max bets are high though, usually 500 mbtc (0.5 bitcoin) minimum. Major sports right before game, 2000-10000 mbtc (2-10 bitcoin)

Thanks. I'm from Canada so I have access to Pinnacle. Seems like the limits on Fairlay are similar to what I get on Pinny, so if the two sites are linked I don't think I have much use for Fairly.

[danshan11]

you can see here some heavy action and line did not flinch

https://fairlay.com/archive/portland...0-0fc0bcf2211f

[punintended]

from all the data I have looked at NO the line does not move because of action on fairlay directly, Fairlay is possibly more like probably funded by Pinny they had said that directly in chat but I am not 100% sure of that. I do notice that if fairlay starts getting heavy betting action on a side usually you will see the line moving at all books so of course fairlay follows course.
there was about a half million dumped in 10 minutes on Portland the other night and the line did not even blink.

I also have ran about a zillion tests and have not found anything that seems to leak or give the market maker access to the bettor who places the bet. Also it would be nearly impossible for them to track bettors anyway because you can make as many accounts as you want and they have zero KYC AML that I have seen up to this point, that is my opinion not a fact!

Interesting. Looks like I'll have to sign up and see for myself.

[4sees]

Have enjoyed using Wagerweb for BTC deposits over 300, as they'll reimburse you cash for the Bitcoin fee (up to 5% of deposit) with no restrictions, rollover, b.s., etc. Plus, the deposits have been going thru very swiftly, including their no fee BTC payouts. Though their juice is a little bit higher it seems, really enjoy their point buying/selling options, their second-to-none (as far as I now) live wagering, and don't think you'll find a better website platform to use.

Second, or if deposit is under 300, have enjoyed using Sportbet, who also has swift deposit processing, and vast point buying/selling options. Their live wagering and website however, are vastly inferior to Wagerweb's. Those aren't biggies for me, as I tend not to do much live wagering, and though the site is this like old, primitive, unappealing view (and don't really like how they put quarter, half and game lines all on 1 page that you have to carefully sort thru), ultimately it works fine. They do run an excellent and generous free betting contest, where generally you just have to have had a minimum 50 buck wager within 24 hours of your first pick to be fully eligible, which is nice.

[eaglesfan371]

Have enjoyed using Wagerweb for BTC deposits over 300, as they'll reimburse you cash for the Bitcoin fee (up to 5% of deposit) with no restrictions, rollover, b.s., etc. Plus, the deposits have been going thru very swiftly, including their no fee BTC payouts. Though their juice is a little bit higher it seems, really enjoy their point buying/selling options, their second-to-none (as far as I now) live wagering, and don't think you'll find a better website platform to use.

Second, or if deposit is under 300, have enjoyed using Sportbet, who also has swift deposit processing, and vast point buying/selling options. Their live wagering and website however, are vastly inferior to Wagerweb's. Those aren't biggies for me, as I tend not to do much live wagering, and though the site is this like old, primitive, unappealing view (and don't really like how they put quarter, half and game lines all on 1 page that you have to carefully sort thru), ultimately it works fine. They do run an excellent and generous free betting contest, where generally you just have to have had a minimum 50 buck wager within 24 hours of your first pick to be fully eligible, which is nice.

This thread is to discuss books that keep balances in bitcoin, not converts to USD. For example, say you deposited bitcoin to wagerweb a month ago. You would have lost on the 30% gain in price in bitcoin.

Fairlay, Nitrogen and betcoin are the only books offering bitcoin balances to US customers.

[4sees]

This thread is to discuss books that keep balances in bitcoin, not converts to USD. For example, say you deposited bitcoin to wagerweb a month ago. You would have lost on the 30% gain in price in bitcoin.

Fairlay, Nitrogen and betcoin are the only books offering bitcoin balances to US customers.

Ahhh, BTC not being converted is what the fuss is all about; sorry, my bad. No thanks, got all the risk I want on the game, and have no need for extra risk on the currency. How do you handle winning a nice game, but have lost cause of a BTC crash? Perhaps, you handle it the opposite way if you lose a game, but are up due to like the recent BTC surge, right? For me, like the balance to be a solid constant, with NO surprises. Having the balance remain in BTC form, constantly fluctuating due to nothing that you can control, just way too exotic for me.

[danshan11]

the btc price movements have never hurt or helped me on sportsbook accounts!

[pattymayo]

If you bet lower leagues and challenger you’re a fool to bet on those matches at Nitrogen. Those leagues are the ones that Nitrogen adds 5-10 cents to EACH SIDE. I can get -110/-110 on challenger lines on Fairlay AND the ability to bet on the matches live on fairlay at -112/-112. Nitrogen minimum -115/-115 on challenger.

Any match that is offered on Nitrogen is available at Fairlay at BETTER odds. Props are the only thing Nitrogen might have that Fairlay won’t. I know the world loves Nitrogen but branch out and you might see how much those worse odds are costing you. Guarantee over the last year my winning bets have paid out at least $300 more on Fairlay vs betting them on Nitrogen.

I don’t mind.. I’ll only bet soccer totals and always buy up to get the + money. Same with tennis.

I’m in New York which apparently is a restricted region. Bummer

[raiders72001]

from all the data I have looked at NO the line does not move because of action on fairlay directly, Fairlay is possibly more like probably funded by Pinny they had said that directly in chat but I am not 100% sure of that. I do notice that if fairlay starts getting heavy betting action on a side usually you will see the line moving at all books so of course fairlay follows course.
there was about a half million dumped in 10 minutes on Portland the other night and the line did not even blink.

I also have ran about a zillion tests and have not found anything that seems to leak or give the market maker access to the bettor who places the bet. Also it would be nearly impossible for them to track bettors anyway because you can make as many accounts as you want and they have zero KYC AML that I have seen up to this point, that is my opinion not a fact!

There's one that I know of where the player was accused of money laundering and his money was confiscated by Fairlay. Even though he was most likely money laundering, he offered to place bets. Fairlay declined and asked for KYC. The player gave Fairlay KYC documentation. Fairlay then asked for a video and the player refused. Other than that, I don't know of any.

[swordsandtequila]

I don’t mind.. I’ll only bet soccer totals and always buy up to get the + money. Same with tennis.

I’m in New York which apparently is a restricted region. Bummer

Check out Betcoin, for soccer as close to an Asian book as we in the US are gonna get. Lots of markets, pretty good live betting. I bet a lot of soccer and never had any issues with them. Deposits or payouts. 5ds, Heritage, etc. don't come close when comes to the number of betting options per game.

[TennisAceE]

It's a juicy book with friendly interface and a chat room.
It's nice that they accept US players but they add 5-10 cents on some matches.
If you search around, you can find better odds at other books.

[themike78]

Nitrogen definitely the best. Fairly doesn't even have parlays? What book doesn't allow parlays? That's pathetic. Anyways if you want your money safe and unlimited withdrawls 24/7 then nitro is the best.

[jjgold]

It's a juicy book with friendly interface and a chat room.
It's nice that they accept US players but they add 5-10 cents on some matches.
If you search around, you can find better odds at other books.

yes

[TennisAceE]

Nitrogen definitely the best. Fairly doesn't even have parlays? What book doesn't allow parlays? That's pathetic. Anyways if you want your money safe and unlimited withdrawls 24/7 then nitro is the best.

Did Nitro recently chance their withdraw policy?
Because IIRC it was 1 free withdraw/week.

[littlekona]

Nitrogen definitely the best. Fairly doesn't even have parlays? What book doesn't allow parlays? That's pathetic. Anyways if you want your money safe and unlimited withdrawls 24/7 then nitro is the best.

Obviously you are a newbie or just ignorant....ever here of betfair or matchbook pathetic lol
btw Fairlay has instant withdrawals and won’t limit you plus best odds....Nitrogen is fine though for parlays and poker