[eaglesfan371]

Posted a month or so ago about someone max betting 5-6 times for a total of 10-12k in bitcoin on a CHALLENGER tennis match.

Today, for ATP Monte Carlo, someone bet 3.485 bitcoin FOUR times, for almost 14 bitcoin wagered ON....

Lorenzo Sonego +0 spread (games I'm guessing) vs. Dusan Lajovic +0

See here: https://fairlay.com/market/dusan-laj...nzo-sonego-18/

Pretty crazy. Bettor does not seem sharp as the odds barely moved. Will be interesting to see if it wins.


EDIT: The total wager is actually over $90,000! He bet 3.485 bitcoin on -0.5 Lorenzo Sonego games too!

https://fairlay.com/market/dusan-laj...nzo-sonego-17/

[KVB]

Posted a month or so ago about someone max betting 5-6 times for a total of 10-12k in bitcoin on a CHALLENGER tennis match...

Did this bet win?

[DavidGoliath5003]

Did this bet win?

The match hasnt started yet...

[eaglesfan371]

Did this bet win?

No, the 10-12k bet lost in an awful fashion too. Won first set and was up a break 2nd set, then proceeded to lose 2nd and 3rd set, I believe. It was WTA moneyline.

If you think about it, 90k is a ton of $$$...could be a fixed match.

[KVB]

No, the 10-12k bet lost in an awful fashion too. Won first set and was up a break 2nd set, then proceeded to lose 2nd and 3rd set, I believe. It was WTA moneyline.

If you think about it, 90k is a ton of $$$...could be a fixed match.

Slap in the face on that first bet...lol.

Could be a fixed match, could easily be.

Then again, could just be overflow where enough action couldn't get down at other books.

That's a decent handle though, for that tourney. If it was fixed, betting too much would be a bad idea. It would be a trigger or a tip off.

[eaglesfan371]

Just realized these bets are also a DOG, + odds here.

Yeah the 10-12k bet was a wild match. I had the losing player +4 games which won but the big ML bet lost.

[NYproGambler]

Looks like he bet on dusan lajovic based on the link you put

[eaglesfan371]

Looks like he bet on dusan lajovic based on the link you put

Sorry, Fairlay is very confusing to someone who has not used them. Hard interface to understand initially.

If you scroll down you'll see the bets in the history log are in RED. This means he is betting AGAINST the proposed event which here is Dusan Lajovic +0. To bet dusan you click the odds in green. If you want to go against the proposed outcome, you click the odds in red.

[TheMoneyShot]

Sorry, Fairlay is very confusing to someone who has not used them. Hard interface to understand initially.

If you scroll down you'll see the bets in the history log are in RED. This means he is betting AGAINST the proposed event which here is Dusan Lajovic +0. To bet dusan you click the odds in green. If you want to go against the proposed outcome, you click the odds in red.

I wouldn't trust that data anyways.... unless a couple others who use Fairlay agree with what you're saying.

[Poisec]

He is probably betting on Lajovic -0.5 on Fairlay, and betting on Sonego +0.5 somewhere else (money laundering).

[eaglesfan371]

Looks like he or she or someone else bet 7.5 bitcoin ($39000) on Novak Djokovic at roughly -400 ML odds vs Daniil Medvedev.

https://fairlay.com/market/novak-djo...l-medvedev-59/

Going to sleep, will be interesting to see how his bets do.

[eaglesfan371]

He is probably betting on Lajovic -0.5 on Fairlay, and betting on Sonego +0.5 somewhere else (money laundering).

His bets on Fairlay are against lajovic, not for. You can see the red in the history for the lajovic bets (which means AGAINST), and see the green in the novak djokovic bet (which means ON).

Anything is possible though. Could be arbing, could be another book laying off. Never know. 5 BTC or under is instant withdrawals (5 mins or less), I'd assume 5+ is manual but still probably sent under 24 hours, generally with no ID or verification necessary.

[Poisec]

His bets on Fairlay are against lajovic, not for. You can see the red in the history for the lajovic bets (which means AGAINST), and see the green in the novak djokovic bet (which means ON).

Ok but perhaps this is simply another bookmaker who have an account at Fairlay and do this from time to time in order to trade positions.

By the way I am confident Lajovic will win.

[Jeff_Black]

He is probably betting on Lajovic -0.5 on Fairlay, and betting on Sonego +0.5 somewhere else (money laundering).

+0.0 Handicap basically means your player has to win more games then your opponent win or lose.
I personally don’t think it’s worth the extra few cents for that kind of sweat if I was that confident in a player anyway.
I mean I know it’s not women’s tennis but still

[eaglesfan371]

+0.0 Handicap basically means your player has to win more games then your opponent win or lose.
I personally don’t think it’s worth the extra few cents for that kind of sweat if I was that confident in a player anyway.
I mean I know it’s not women’s tennis but still

Yeah agree. I mean I understand games if +3 or something but +0, why not just take ML...

[eaglesfan371]

Ok but perhaps this is simply another bookmaker who have an account at Fairlay and do this from time to time in order to trade positions.

By the way I am confident Lajovic will win.

Definitely could be. Danshan11 has mentioned this happens often with books laying off (saw a few 25-50k premier league wagers on Fairlay before).

[Poisec]

+0.0 Handicap basically means your player has to win more games then your opponent win or lose.
I personally don’t think it’s worth the extra few cents for that kind of sweat if I was that confident in a player anyway.
I mean I know it’s not women’s tennis but still

That's a weird bet and that's why I think its either money laundering or another house trading positions.

..or a Russian billionaire just having fun...

[eaglesfan371]

That's a weird bet and that's why I think its either money laundering or another house trading positions.

..or a Russian billionaire just having fun...

Lot of bitcoin millionaires out there. There was a user named Veganhippie that lost well over 1000 bitcoin between bitcoin poker and NitrogenSports. Very early adopter. Would not be surprised if they're now on Fairlay.

[Sam Odom]

Thread is confusing... Sammy is old

[ThaWoj]

Sonego lost in straight sets 4-6/5-7

[Optional]

It's more surprising that anyone can get 90k matched on a challenger match at fairlay, than someone wanting to bet that much.

I assume they must have offered great odds to manage that? so took crappy odds themselves?

[jjgold]

of course

just scalping

lol you guys rookies

[nuxx??]

It's more surprising that anyone can get 90k matched on a challenger match at fairlay, than someone wanting to bet that much.

I assume they must have offered great odds to manage that? so took crappy odds themselves?

Except it's not a challanger match but instead is quarter of a Master series.

[Sam Odom]

Thread is confusing...

Even well informed posters cant get this right

[dhristov211]

+0.0 Handicap basically means your player has to win more games then your opponent win or lose.
I personally don’t think it’s worth the extra few cents for that kind of sweat if I was that confident in a player anyway.
I mean I know it’s not women’s tennis but still

Also difference if retirement happens after 1st set ended?

[eaglesfan371]

Holy shit.

Guy lost over $125,000

Sonego games lost and djokovic lost.

@Optional, their odds provider is pinnacle. Not sure of the arrangement but you can get down a TON.

These matches were not a challenger series, it was ATP event. The $10-$12k tennis bet I saw a month or so ago was a challenger event.

Fairlay also has a bot that tweets hourly a signed message from a bitcoin cold wallet they own. Current balance is 1,071 bitcoin. They’re definitely well funded

[jjgold]

most big bettors are scalpers

also do not be fooled fake bets being put up by book to entice you to gamble there
lol you guys funny

[littlekona]

Guy last night had over 8000 mbtc on golden state on Fairlay...what a no sweat game that was....maybe an arb who knows for sure but fairly allows it

[KVB]

It's more surprising that anyone can get 90k matched on a challenger match at fairlay, than someone wanting to bet that much.

I assume they must have offered great odds to manage that? so took crappy odds themselves?

Thinking the same here.

If it was a buyback or arb, how is it getting matched?

Larger operations shilling at the exchange?

[eaglesfan371]

Thinking the same here.

If it was a buyback or arb, how is it getting matched?

Larger operations shilling at the exchange?

You’re forgetting that pinnacle offers basically unlimited amounts. You can rebet the maximum as much as you want, each time with slighter worse odds.

For the 10-12k challenger bet, the bettor had to bet the max 6 times, each with slightly worse odds.

For this 90k he had to bet the maximum 5 times, each with slightly worse odds.

When you look at individual matches for main sports you’ll see typical 5-15k limits per max bet. If you bet the max in an event, odds will disappear for a minute and then reappear with lower odds.

[KVB]

Still could be side gigs from bigger operations.

Why the hell not, ya know?

It's not like the consumer really has as many choices as it seems.


Whether it's copycat or conglomerate spinoffs from 1st f5 lines to the live platforms, it's like going to the grocery store.

There's thousands of items to choose from, but really only so many providers bringing it to you.

Some of us, betting and buying back have to spread out all over the fukkin place.

Pinny and others not always an option for some money as well.

This could be their way of becoming an option.

Players have agents, if I was a conglomerate book, I'd have agents too, booking where they can.

A whole division of black ops necessary to keep marketshare.

lol.

[jjgold]

Guy last night had over 8000 mbtc on golden state on Fairlay...what a no sweat game that was....maybe an arb who knows for sure but fairly allows it

its a simple trick books do to lure players in thinking they take huge wagers

Back end can create any bets simple with one click

[KVB]

its a simple trick books do to lure players in thinking they take huge wagers

Back end can create any bets simple with one click

And then there's that.

[jjgold]

KVB I am an expert in the field

[KVB]

Yeah that's some shady shit.

It's not the only info the big guys create to throw us off their scent.

Don't worry though, we'll keep sniffing til we snort it...