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    Quote Originally Posted by frankthetank View Post
    This was a solid 7 years ago and word is that they leased the sportsbook position to a local business owner at that time. I went back a few years ago and they had sports betting kiosks where you feed money into the machine, bet the game at -110 and it prints a ticket. The lines are updated from the web and accurate. I didn't see any limits but I placed $330 bets no problem. The casino cruise left out of Cape Canaveral and once they got five miles out or whatever, people could then begin placing bets. I think it stays out at 5 hours a clip. Texas Hold Em tournament on top deck and bottom floor is card games. Slot machines on the middle decks. 3 Card Poker seemed to be the most popular game. Hope this info helps. Oh, I think the cruise is 15 bucks and the buffet was 10 bucks.
    Been on this cruise a number of times. Lines much sharper now as he mentioned. Biggest downside is payout. There isn’t a way (that I’m aware of) to get paid other than on the boat. So if you bet a game that doesn’t finish during that cruise - you can’t get paid until you book and take another cruise. I don’t do it enough to figure out if there are ways around it but I haven’t done a ton of sports betting on cruises for that reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    Been on this cruise a number of times. Lines much sharper now as he mentioned. Biggest downside is payout. There isnít a way (that Iím aware of) to get paid other than on the boat. So if you bet a game that doesnít finish during that cruise - you canít get paid until you book and take another cruise. I donít do it enough to figure out if there are ways around it but I havenít done a ton of sports betting on cruises for that reason.
    Yeah thatís what I was worried about too. Likely would take a night cruise and find an 8pm game to bet for a good amount if I went. Thank you to both for the review!

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    2020 Vision: Conditions Still Look Swampy For Florida Sports Betting

    Matthew Kredell Posted on Jan 30, 2020



    Twenty states have some form of legal sports betting law. This series looks ahead to which states could have legislative action to regulate sports betting in 2020.


    Next up: Florida.


    Florida Rep. David Santiago walked to the microphone in an aisle at the National Council of Legislators for Gaming States conference earlier this month. He asked panelists the question on the mind of all legislators in the Sunshine State:


    Does authorizing Florida sports betting count as an expansion of gambling?


    This matter is of particular interest in Florida because Amendment 3, approved by voters in 2018, prohibits the legislature from authorizing new casino gambling. Any expansions of gambling not only need to be approved by but also initiated by voters.


    Looking for hope for FL sports betting

    Santiago hoped that panelists discussing tribal-state gaming compacts would provide him examples he could bring back to colleagues to show that allowing sports betting in Florida at an existing gaming facility isnít an expansion.


    Instead, the panelists agreed that adding Florida sports betting at an existing gaming facility is still an expansion just as it would be to increase the number of slot machines.


    Afterward, Santiago and Sen. Oscar Braynon admitted that they didnít see any hope for Florida to pass legislation authorizing sports betting this year because the majority of Florida legislators donít believe they have the right.


    What happened in Florida sports betting in 2019

    Renegotiating the gaming compact with the Seminole was a big focus of the Florida Legislature last year.


    Senate President Bill Galvano, who handled the previous compact, tasked the next person in line to run the chamber, Sen. Wilton Simpson, to do the negotiations.


    Simpson worked out a tentative agreement with the Seminole. It would have paid the state at least $500 million a year in return for pledging to shut down the designated card games offered at state parimutuels, among other items.


    However, Gov. Ron DeSantis refused to sign off on the deal.


    In response, the Seminole told the governor they would stop making annual payments of about $350 million to the state ďuntil the illegal banked card game issue is resolved.Ē


    What may happen in Florida in 2020

    With the Seminole not paying money to the state, some legislators got a little brash entering the year.


    Sen. Jeff Brandes filed a bill to authorize the Florida Lottery to regulate sports betting. The lottery and along with the Seminole, are exempt from Amendment 3.


    Galvano agreed that legislators need to look at whatís available on the private side of gambling rather than just the compact. However, the realities of Amendment 3 and the political climate make that unlikely.


    The Seminole quickly worked to douse those hopes this week. So, while Brandesí bill has no momentum, legislation that would forbid the Florida Lottery from offering games based on sporting events passed in the House Gaming Control Subcommittee by a nearly unanimous vote.


    So, any efforts to legalize sports betting in Florida will once again need to go through the Seminole. The relations between the state and tribe seem too complicated for that to happen this year.





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    every state will have under 3 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    yah but not orlando, disney doesnt want competition, they throw in millions to fight gambling
    Ordinarily, I would agree, but remember ESPN is owned by Disney. ESPN is very pro-gambling.

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    Sounds to me like State letting Natives hang themselves here politically then full steam ahead

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Sounds to me like State letting Natives hang themselves here politically then full steam ahead

    Former Florida Governor solely to blame for the situation

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    Hopefully there will be news stories down there about how much business they missed out on just from the Superbowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Former Florida Governor solely to blame for the situation
    IDK man. In MN we had same deal w tribes. Then the expansion of slots/ poker became hot idea to fund stadiums, tribes panicked and paid up.

    In FL if tribes not gonna pay up then screw em. State gave them first right to equitable solutions.

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    hope florida gets it together some guy named wallach says florida will get sports betting in 2020


    4. Florida will legalize sports gambling
    Things looked dead in Florida after voters approved Amendment 3, which allows Florida residents to exclusively authorize casino gambling within the state. But Wallach says that the amendment would not stop the legislature from authorizing sports gambling.
    Because of that, Wallach says he expects lawmakers to approve sports betting in 2020, without the need for a citizen referendum.
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    Any state that is stalling or doesn't have it already is only hurting themselves, and their residents. Just use the NJ model. It's proven successful and is a surefire moneymaker for the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuesser View Post
    Any state that is stalling or doesn't have it already is only hurting themselves, and their residents. Just use the NJ model. It's proven successful and is a surefire moneymaker for the state.
    florida is a mess think of how much money they could made on the superbowl
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuesser View Post
    Any state that is stalling or doesn't have it already is only hurting themselves, and their residents. Just use the NJ model. It's proven successful and is a surefire moneymaker for the state.




    I said something like this when NJ was fighting for it all alone.

    But finally a handful of other states joined the fight which obviously helped.

    I always pointed out that all of the other states were cowards while NJ and 4-5 other states were doing all the work battling for legalization.

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    There are only 2000 living Seminole Indians in the state and somehow they control a multi billion dollar industry, personally Id tell them to F off were tired of being extorted for your money to run casinos (6 of them), keep your money we will open it up to the free market. It wouldnt take long for the Indians to have a change of heart and come running back wanting to get a piece of the new action. The Seminole casinos/hotels Ive been to are all way overpriced compared to the rest of the country.

    My guess is that doesnt happen and the politicians cave to the Indians and grant them sports wagering and it will only be on their properties, no mobile allowed will be thrown in by the politicians.JMO

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    I would like this to happen, but I'm not optimistic it ever will. Disney will throw tons of money against it and the Florida Legislature is as inept a group as there is anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridagolfer View Post
    and the Florida Legislature is as inept a group as there is anywhere.
    Thats the truth

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