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    He's owed 20 million by pittsburgh and has asked for a trade, he's also older, Pittsburgh has no leverage, no reason to give up a 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM-Ganador View Post
    Didn`t he show up to training camp in a helicopter?

    Tells me all I need to know as a GM.
    And couldn't curb his drama enough to not be benched in last game of season

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiDBaZkiT View Post
    With 5 kids and a RUNDOWN former escort.
    Can`t remember who it was, but it was CLASSIC.
    Dude shows up in a pink Mary Kay Monte Carlo.
    That was great.

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    They allegedly might be asking for low as a 6th.

    And yes, I'd give up to a 3 for him, because we'd also be taking on a ton of salary

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    Quote Originally Posted by WvGambler View Post
    Hell no. It's crazy to think SF is close to competing where a WR of that price and age puts them over the hump. They need the pick way more than they need an aged, expensive wideout.
    ,
    A lot closer than you think. Won a decent amount of games depsite the whole roster being hurt and playing practice squad players.

    Great O line/D line. WRs are meh. Set at TE/FB/RB. Really need a CB/FS , pass rusher.

    Close, very close. AB if comes cheap on picks, is worth the shot because we have a billion dollars in cap.

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    You're assuming the number 1 pick is just going to stay with you his whole career? By the time he develops into something special, that number 1 pick is gonna be like 24-25 years old, then he's gonna have other offers. Brown is the best WR in the game right now.

    The GMs who always get fired are the people who have the mentality "go young and talented." The GMs that stay aboard build their team around 28 year old vets. Like the Patriots do yearly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    You're assuming the number 1 pick is just going to stay with you his whole career? By the time he develops into something special, that number 1 pick is gonna be like 24-25 years old, then he's gonna have other offers. Brown is the best WR in the game right now.

    The GMs who always get fired are the people who have the mentality "go young and talented." The GMs that stay aboard build their team around 28 year old vets. Like the Patriots do yearly...
    That's not the point, Brown has already been paid, you're not getting any value with his deal, and he also has a history of being an off the field issue. The Pat's paid a receiver big money once with moss, and never won anything with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    I wouldn't. The Cowboys gave up a number 1 for Cooper, but he's 24 and the Cowboys were desperate to save the season at that point. Antonio Brown is 31 and will cost money and they still need other pieces.

    A #2 and a #6 might be better.
    Ummmmm geeee let me think.............




    uh fukk yeah I would!!!!!


    no fukkin chance you get a talent like that in the draft

    AB is the best WR in the league and it’s not close

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM-Ganador View Post
    Didn`t he show up to training camp in a helicopter?

    Tells me all I need to know as a GM.
    What star player doesn’t show up in a copter?

    Pat Peterson does the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I would give a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder too. He is the best receiver in the league behind Julio Jones only.
    Just stop - ridiculous- he’s not worth a 1 or 2- he’s on the decline/old- expensive and a locker-room cancer - 49ers need 2 put that money into a pass rusher or o-line

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    yes 1st round pick means nothing they get it wrong a lot more times than they get it right. everyone thought cowboys giving up 1st rounder for cooper was stupid said he was done not me. nothing wrong with brown in his prime how much longer that lasts is up for grabs though

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    Just stop - ridiculous- he’s not worth a 1 or 2- he’s on the decline/old- expensive and a locker-room cancer - 49ers need 2 put that money into a pass rusher or o-line
    On the decline?????

    you must be a bitter Steeler fan.

    I would def give up a 1st and 2nd for AB

    wayy better than Julio

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Ummmmm geeee let me think.............




    uh fukk yeah I would!!!!!


    no fukkin chance you get a talent like that in the draft

    AB is the best WR in the league and it’s not close
    That’s what I’m saying. The draft is a gamble. He’s a sure thing. Don’t really care how old he is. Especially if you wanna take a WR with that first rounder. No way am I going with the college WR gamble over Brown. How many 1st round wideouts even pan out to be decent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    That’s what I’m saying. The draft is a gamble. He’s a sure thing. Don’t really care how old he is. Especially if you wanna take a WR with that first rounder. No way am I going with the college WR gamble over Brown. How many 1st round wideouts even pan out to be decent?

    They hardly ever amount to shit. Most of the time they don’t even start

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    Like Mike Tomlin said - they put up with brown shit because of his talent for years - he’s not a easy guy 2 get along with - the second something goes wrong? He kills the whole locker room-
    Ask the patriots if they ever paid there WR big money - you can find decent WR/RB in the draft every year - not superstars but good enough - they aren’t important position like QB/D-line/O-line/

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    None of these guys ever have a good season after leaving Pittsburgh

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    That's not the point, Brown has already been paid, you're not getting any value with his deal, and he also has a history of being an off the field issue. The Pat's paid a receiver big money once with moss, and never won anything with him.
    Wait, aren't you the same guy who was touting Matt Cassel's 11 win season as a success. Pats didn't even make the playoffs. Now you're saying bringing Moss aboard, who had the best season of any WR in NFL history, with something insane like 20+ touchdowns and yards galore, going 16-0, getting to the superbowl -- that wasn't good value?

    You contradict yourself pretty often. What I've realized is that you're just looking to argue with any point, any time. You'll never agree with anything, even if deep down you agree. You'll find a way to argue it.

    Number 1 picks don't usually have that great of an impact to start their careers. They need time to develop. If you want to win now, you go with a legend like Brown, who is in his prime now. Rice was in his prime at 30 years old, and Brown is the closest thing ever to Rice. T.O. was also in his prime at 30. The best ones are.

    Don't be fooled. If you play sports, you know. Prime years are 29-32 in all sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post

    Wait, aren't you the same guy who was touting Matt Cassel's 11 win season as a success. Pats didn't even make the playoffs. Now you're saying bringing Moss aboard, who had the best season of any WR in NFL history, with something insane like 20+ touchdowns and yards galore, going 16-0, getting to the superbowl -- that wasn't good value?

    You contradict yourself pretty often. What I've realized is that you're just looking to argue with any point, any time. You'll never agree with anything, even if deep down you agree. You'll find a way to argue it.

    Number 1 picks don't usually have that great of an impact to start their careers. They need time to develop. If you want to win now, you go with a legend like Brown, who is in his prime now. Rice was in his prime at 30 years old, and Brown is the closest thing ever to Rice. T.O. was also in his prime at 30. The best ones are.

    Don't be fooled. If you play sports, you know. Prime years are 29-32 in all sports.
    The Patriots have never won anything with a big news receiver and no team has ever won a super bowl paying a receiver 20 million. You are the idiot who thought the sun's roster was as talented as the kings.

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    Brown is another millennial narcissist, poison for a football team
    https://twitter.com/AB84

    Steelers have to build a mature football team - they can do it.
    Bring back the Steeler identity and win

    cut the soft primadonnas who only in it for themselves.

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    11 wins with a bad starting QB is a success.

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    Wide receivers are not a critical component of the national football league you need a quarterback number one in a good defense number two

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    He's losing his marbles. Here's what he said about Big Ben on twitter....

    Antonio Brown

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    More Antonio Brown Retweeted Savo
    No conflict just a matter of respect! Mutual respect! He has a owner mentality like he can call out anybody including coaches. Players know but they can’t say anything about it otherwise they meal ticket gone. It’s a dirty game within a game. #truth

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    It's dropping and they're not getting a number 1 for him.....

    The Steelers' asking price started as a first-round pick and other compensation but has been reduced to a first-round pick, sources have told ESPN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    On the decline?????

    you must be a bitter Steeler fan.

    I would def give up a 1st and 2nd for AB

    wayy better than Julio
    Another perfect example of why you are one of the worst 'Cappers in here. Hell, you cannot even afford to become a pro. The people in the know (the AD's as a group for one) seem to think that he is worth a #2 at best. He is getting old, is a cancer in the locker room, and simply is not worth the headaches. One decent shot and he is out for 5 weeks.

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    Wallace 2.0

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    Hell no.. Life long Niners fan here.

    I really wanted him when this whole thing started but he's changed my mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Wide receivers are not a critical component of the national football league you need a quarterback number one in a good defense number two
    This..O line to keep him upright

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    No. I wouldn't take him for free. He is a disease.
    Yahtzee my friend.
    Salary is up there as well.
    He shit all over the best situation he will ever see.

    NFL simply does not allow player empowerment or individualism. Party line fellas.

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    A 3 and a 5. I wasn't that far off

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    I am surprised the 49ers didn't offer a 3rd and a 5th to get him, AB wanted to play in San Fran.

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    isnt their qb a fruitcake and ben has a history of making avg wr's look great? idk, seems pretty dumb to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stallion View Post
    I am surprised the 49ers didn't offer a 3rd and a 5th to get him, AB wanted to play in San Fran.
    Because they know what they would be dealing with in regards to his next contract. It's a nightmare situation.

    I know the Raiders got him cheap.......Why they make the deal is beyond me. They're not a player away from winning so what is the point of trading for a 30 yr. old malcontent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiggityDaggityDo View Post
    Raiders have a million first round picks.

    I can see them giving one up for him.
    Didn’t even need to give up a first rounder.

    Wow

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    Maybe the 49ers can go get Justin Houston.

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    Raiders got robbed, I wouldn’t even have given them just the 5th rounder. He’s not only a headcase with obvious mental problems, he’s also on the backside of his career and you could already see slippage in his play last year.

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