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    Hman
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    Can Kyler Murray Really Be As Good Or Better Than Derek Carr? 🏈

    Raiders coach Jon Gruden seems enamored with Kyler Murray and has been talking him up as if the Raiders might pull the trigger on him in the 1st Round of the NFL draft.

    Can Murray even be equally as good as Carr, much less better??

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    Carr looks like he has really regreesed. Maybe the talent around him is partly to blame. But think I would give Murray a shot.

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    Carr is pretty shitty so

    Absolutely
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    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    Carr looks like he has really regreesed. Maybe the talent around him is partly to blame. But think I would give Murray a shot.


    Id say the odds are it's more so the talent around him.

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    Well, how would you compare Murray to Baker Mayfield, Watson, Jackson, Mahomes, ? They seem to be doing ok.

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    Both Carr brothers are idiots.

    Didn't win sh#$.

    Raiders need a change anyways... pull the trigger... get a better QB.

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    LOL

    They aint drafting Murray

    Davis just fukking Oakland over a little more

    Making A's pay $$$ for rookie

    Game of brinksmanship

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    LOL

    They aint drafting Murray

    Davis just fukking Oakland over a little more

    Making A's pay $$$ for rookie

    Game of brinksmanship

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    LOL

    They aint drafting Murray

    Davis just fukking Oakland over a little more

    Making A's pay $$$ for rookie

    Game of brinksmanship



    Some mock drafts have the Skins taking Murray.

    Thoughts?

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    Carr had Amari Cooper who was one of the top WR in the league after he bounced.

    He also had one of the best TE in football. Cook.

    Also had Marshawn Lynch, who was still elite before his injury the last 1.5 seasons....

    Carr has had all the weapons you can ever ask for.

    He sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Some mock drafts have the Skins taking Murray.

    Thoughts?
    Skins are in "win now" mode

    They'll sign/ trade for a Bradford/Bridgewater/Foles/Manning/etc

    Murray is going to Oakland A's once they give him $7mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyOne View Post
    Well, how would you compare Murray to Baker Mayfield, Watson, Jackson, Mahomes, ? They seem to be doing ok.
    He’s shorter.

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    He’s too small his passes will get batted away

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    Carr sucks. He cried like a bitch in London. His OL doesn't like him either.

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    gruden is a great judge of talent ssid manziel was going to be great nfl qb, what exactly had jon gruden done to deserve 10 mil a year guaranteed for 10 years

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    No qb will be worth a damn in Oaklamd

    Best thing for Murray is to drop mid to low 1st round and get signed by a good team

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    He is 5' 8" he won't be able to see over the line. He is Doug Flutey size. Look up a pic of him holding his arms high with a helmet on, fukkin helmet is as long as his entire arm. His legs are also very short and hands are small and NFL ball is bigger. He is going to be more of a bust then Manziel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    gruden is a great judge of talent ssid manziel was going to be great nfl qb, what exactly had jon gruden done to deserve 10 mil a year guaranteed for 10 years
    Do whatever he is told.

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    That almost MVP season by Carr is holding this team back. They need to go on. But they should build the team first and then draft a QB in the first round when Carr's contract is expiring. Build the team first, then draft the QB.

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    Carr sucks have seen games where he had wrs open down field but would go for 2-3 yard passes and he still gets pucks on those check downs

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    I would draft Murray so he can play both for A's and Raiders at the same time.

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    MVP

    Best QB NFL

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    Why are these young black QBs so superior to the white ones.?

    the whites only had lineman and Qb now they lost Qb

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    They’re used to running from the cops at an early age, and throwin weed 50 yards away so they dont catch a charge

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    That could be right. Whites get hooked on opioids and meth and destroy their body. Blacks don’t really mess with that stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antifoil View Post
    That could be right. Whites get hooked on opioids and meth and destroy their body. Blacks don’t really mess with that stuff.
    ya that stereotypes holds true 100%

    Whites want Oxyband meth, blacks want coke and weed

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    Yeah that sounds right. Makes sense why the whites are struggling to produce good QBs.

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