[pavyracer]

If I cash this Seahawks +2.5 I will be very happy.

[lakerboy]

Well I won on over 43.5

[Renegades]

Well I won on over 43.5

Over was a miracle. A total miracle. I’ll take it though

[pavyracer]

Well I won on over 43.5

You didn't need the 2 point conversion.

[wikkidinsane]

Congrats lol. Had +2 . I'll take push

[BetterBizness]

I’ll take it

[vinnykal2323]

i had seahawks +3 its hard to believe that they didnt have a backup who could kick extra points in case they were put in that position

[pavyracer]

i had seahawks +3 its hard to believe that they didnt have a backup who could kick extra points in case they were put in that position

I think the problem is the timing. If you're too late it will get blocked. If you kick too fast you will miss because the holder won't be ready. It's not the same as kicking from a tee.

[daneblazer]

What a crock of god forsaken horseshit. Had -2 and feels like I lost

[pavyracer]

What a crock of god forsaken horseshit. Had -2 and feels like I lost

I got burned before like that. What I do is find a couple of hoops -1500 ML's and parlay them with the Cowboys ML in your case so I won't pay juice. It's risky but it works 90% of the time.

[vinnykal2323]

I think the problem is the timing. If you're too late it will get blocked. If you kick too fast you will miss because the holder won't be ready. It's not the same as kicking from a tee.

can you imagine if they get the onside kick then get to the 20 yard line with a few seconds left and have to go for a touchdown cause they dont have a backup kicker to kick a 35 yarder?

[daneblazer]

Oh shit had -2 in contests but -1.5 in the book. Thought I had -2 everywhere. Sweet victory...mostly

[Roadtrip635]

Janikowski pulled a ham hock, fat bastich.....lol

[cankid]

What a mess it ended up being for them

[stevenash]

i had seahawks +3 its hard to believe that they didnt have a backup who could kick extra points in case they were put in that position

Especially when said place kicker is like 1000 years old.

[clockwise1965]

Oh shit had -2 in contests but -1.5 in the book. Thought I had -2 everywhere. Sweet victory...mostly

-2 was everywhere early.

[peacebyinches]

Like some others above Had the over (which was a miracle so I’ll take it) parlayed with -2 Dallas... which was disappointing. Whywhyhwy did janikowski get hurt and force them to go for 2

[TheMoneyShot]

fat ass couldn't stretch pregame. He looks like he gained 20 lbs over the holidays.

[thechaoz]

fat ass couldn't stretch pregame. He looks like he gained 20 lbs over the holidays.

I can't believe Seattle took him this year

[jtoler]

fat ass couldn't stretch pregame. He looks like he gained 20 lbs over the holidays.

[mrpapageorgio]

I didn't get the logic in going for 2 (I had over 43 so the 2-Pt was meaningless to me, but I'll take the miracle).

Why not test out your backup, see if he can hit it. If he makes it, you know it's plausible you can go for a FG to tie the game if you're down to 5 seconds and still short. If he misses, you need the TD anyway. Might as well find out if he can do it then so you know your options assuming you got the onside (which was a moot point shortly after).

[Seattle Slew]

I didn't understand why the punter didn't kick the ball off the tee? I mean, lots of punters do the kickoffs. He drop kicks one, giving Dallas great field position, and then that awful onside kick? I mean put the ball on the tee and dribble it, maybe Dallas panics and makes a mistake.

Seattle's coaching was atrocious, they should have let Wilson take over the game in the second half when the run game clearly was not working.

I didn't get the logic in going for 2 (I had over 43 so the 2-Pt was meaningless to me, but I'll take the miracle).

Why not test out your backup, see if he can hit it. If he makes it, you know it's plausible you can go for a FG to tie the game if you're down to 5 seconds and still short. If he misses, you need the TD anyway. Might as well find out if he can do it then so you know your options assuming you got the onside (which was a moot point shortly after).

[mrpapageorgio]

I didn't understand why the punter didn't kick the ball off the tee? I mean, lots of punters do the kickoffs. He drop kicks one, giving Dallas great field position, and then that awful onside kick? I mean put the ball on the tee and dribble it, maybe Dallas panics and makes a mistake.

Seattle's coaching was atrocious, they should have let Wilson take over the game in the second half when the run game clearly was not working.

The only justification I could see with doing it for the onside onside is the hope by drop kicking it (assuming he meant to kick it short also), he can get the ball high in the air long enough so it essentially becomes a jump ball. However, when you kick it 30 yards down the field instead of 10-15, you're not giving your teammates a chance.

[DrunkHorseplayer]

That wouldn't work; the receiving team can call for a fair catch on a kickoff.

[pavyracer]

Anyone knows the history of the onside kick? When it was first introduced in football? Did they try anything else before the onside kick or did someone came up with the onside kick and no one even dared to come up with a different idea.

[Sam Losco]

what ever happened to punter practicing field goals, and kickers practicing punting...?

[pavyracer]

what ever happened to punter practicing field goals, and kickers practicing punting...?

The punter is Aussie. They don't kick field goals in Australia. If they had Ndamukong Suh he could have kicked FG's. You really need to have played competitive soccer to know how to kick a football. If you can kick corner kicks and free kicks in soccer you can make field goals.

[BuckyOne]

I didn't get the logic in going for 2 (I had over 43 so the 2-Pt was meaningless to me, but I'll take the miracle).

Why not test out your backup, see if he can hit it. If he makes it, you know it's plausible you can go for a FG to tie the game if you're down to 5 seconds and still short. If he misses, you need the TD anyway. Might as well find out if he can do it then so you know your options assuming you got the onside (which was a moot point shortly after).

I see your point but I think they knew he had no shot on a field goal - too slow - would get blocked?

[stevenash]

Anyone knows the history of the onside kick? When it was first introduced in football? Did they try anything else before the onside kick or did someone came up with the onside kick and no one even dared to come up with a different idea.

College football, 1921, Vanderbilt head coach Dan McGugin gets the credit for inventing it.
It was discussed after the 1906 college season, but not implemented until 15 years later.

[sweethook]

id fire number 11 befoe dark fell .. useless pos

[jtoler]

id fire number 11 befoe dark fell .. useless pos

thats janikowski

[KingKolzig]

fat ass couldn't stretch pregame. He looks like he gained 20 lbs over the holidays.

he moved from poland to florida as a teenager and set the florida all time high school soccer scoring record with 62 goals in one season. i played soccer in florida then and heard stories that he was unreal and really fast...........i guess after he made the nfl he just started doing drugs, drinking and putting on weight. but he has such a strong leg that even as a fat slob an nfl team signs him

[TheMoneyShot]

he moved from poland to florida as a teenager and set the florida all time high school soccer scoring record with 62 goals in one season. i played soccer in florida then and heard stories that he was unreal and really fast...........i guess after he made the nfl he just started doing drugs, drinking and putting on weight. but he has such a strong leg that even as a fat slob an nfl team signs him

I know what he did 20 years ago. But he could at least keep himself in great shape like Adam Vinatieri.

Looked like a fat baboon out there.

[rm18]

He was like 260 at FSu been fat forever

[KingKolzig]

He was like 260 at FSu been fat forever

6'2 215 his senior year in high school. hardly a fatass. probably bulked up his senior year as well for scouts....now hes about 270 with mostly lard