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    interesting
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    if i had to guess what happened here...iag has many loyal friends and some just couldnt win (or she had a great season alone with very few friends)

    and the september transfer to renew her pro member really screwed her out of over $11k

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    This doesnt look good IAG! I am shocked but this seems like fire!


    I mean as I mentioned above, who makes the same picks in these contests?? It is so hard to do with all of the possibilities. No matter what, derailer is scamming here seeing by the date the (she) joined.


    By the way guys, IAG is a female. You might as well start using (she) for all of the users i guess
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    i would not have mixed her in with this (prior posts prove that)

    but the amount to renew sent from derailer in september...you know...back when everyone couldve won BTP so it wouldnt be a big deal to send 604 points exactly really looks like a smoking gun


    i actually logged into place across the street to warn her people were talking about her being involved...but saw she posted here before i clicked send to her

    i sent dawgy a PM as a well asking wtf is going on

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    point taken






    i would like to see more info regarding iag though...was it just 1 week she had the same 4 of 5 picks?

    i mean that doesnt sound like that big of a deal???

    You are right, one week not enough evidence. It was just a quick check on info listed as possible earlier in the thread.

    In weeks, 4, 5 and 6. IAG had 4, 4, and 4 picks in common with Derailer and DanicaFantadtica. That’s IAG’s first 4 weeks. Haven’t gone further yet, my head hurts.

    There were 3-5x more possible selections each week than there are powerball numbers. For this to happen a couple weeks in a row is unusual, but week after week....... it is almost statistically impossible.

    FWIW, not making any accusations, the numbers speak for themselves.
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    I mean whatever the case... what is allowed and what's not? there can be a group of 3 separate people/accounts who all work together on getting the most out of these contests and are all posting from different ip's and their own computers/locations but making majority of same plays... how to prove it's one person doing it all isn't possible is it? j2k99 really the one losing out bigtime on this without there being a way to prove multi accounting

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    well

    sbr can look at PMs to see if something occurred

    as you said derailer and IAG connected

    the point transfer, lets just see what the sbrpoint bet was

    They can also look at the bets made after that sportsbook transfer

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    When I have the time, I will post IAG's picks in the postup contest across the street. Lets see if derailer used any of those picks. That contest is a bit different though because you get 7 picks per week with 1 BEST BET and we use live lines. Give me a few minutes and i will at least post her picks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili_Powder View Post
    You are right, one week not enough evidence. It was just a quick check on info listed as possible earlier in the thread.

    In weeks, 4, 5 and 6. IAG had 4, 4, and 4 picks in common with Derailer and DanicaFantadtica. That’s IAG’s first 4 weeks. Haven’t gone further yet, my head hurts.

    There were 2-3x more possible selections each week than there are powerball numbers. For this to happen a couple weeks in a row is unusual, but week after week....... it is almost statistically impossible.

    FWIW, no making any accusations, the numbers speak for themselves.
    little late, but dont call for my ban

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    Thank god i never paid to play contest over there



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    i really liked iag

    dazer really nailed it in here though

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    It's a ghost party!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    little late, but dont call for my ban
    Expectations are high for your 2nd go around, bring your A game.

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    I wonder how many other accounts were associated with these that didnt have a great record so they didnt bother turning PRO???
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    Quote Originally Posted by 19th Hole View Post



    It's a ghost party!!
    maybe its a ball, not party
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    What is the exact accusation here?

    3 accounts all linked (non pros)

    All went PRO bc good first 10 weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    What is the exact accusation here?

    3 accounts all linked (non pros)

    All went PRO bc good first 10 weeks?
    Hold on
    Let me get the Sbr lawyer morino
    You two can discuss this
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    What is the exact accusation here?

    3 accounts all linked (non pros)

    All went PRO bc good first 10 weeks?
    Also did same stuff in nascar fantasy conetst. And all of thrm cashed. Thats why pts were sent to go pro in sept
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    What is the exact accusation here?

    3 accounts all linked (non pros)

    All went PRO bc good first 10 weeks?
    they are all linked, that is a fact

    sbr never detected people from the same IP, so it really comes down to:

    does IAG have friends she tells what to pick?

    either way:

    Fraud

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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    Hold on
    Let me get the Sbr lawyer morino
    You two can discuss this
    no need, im taking over

    see above

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    i kinda feel bad for derailer if he didnt have any ghosts before he got banned the first time. he only got banned for ranting at bigdaddyjames for stiffing him and now he will lose 10k because of that.

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    Ip addy doesn't mean anything as someone mentioned. Any kind of VPN can scramble it even the free ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by fried cheese View Post
    i kinda feel bad for derailer if he didnt have any ghosts before he got banned the first time. he only got banned for ranting at bigdaddyjames for stiffing him and now he will lose 10k because of that.
    Same person Buffalo Nickel was banned for trolling.

    Think about that
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    Quote Originally Posted by fried cheese View Post
    i kinda feel bad for derailer if he didnt have any ghosts before he got banned the first time. he only got banned for ranting at bigdaddyjames for stiffing him and now he will lose 10k because of that.
    really comes down to what i posted

    which is why i demanded 1 point

    sbr can check that

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    Same person Buffalo Nickel was banned for trolling.

    Think about that
    i am talking about buffalo nickel

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    This is all circumstantial. No one should have funds withheld
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    Quote Originally Posted by fried cheese View Post
    i am talking about buffalo nickel
    that is in another thread and should be addressed there

    sbr saves yearly btp contests and can be addressed

    if sbr had a stat guy, they might be able to figure out FADES within a certain pscore

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    This is all circumstantial. No one should have funds withheld
    I hope you are joking
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    Quote Originally Posted by fried cheese View Post
    i am talking about buffalo nickel
    Oh i see I misread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    This is all circumstantial. No one should have funds withheld
    In 2 different contests??

    Seems like a little common sense to me something is going on. No idea what but come on
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    This is all circumstantial. No one should have funds withheld
    are you related to iag or what?

    i like her very much actually, but im not even sure if she is really a she and not a neighbor down the road of the he
    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    ok on 11/20

    both danica and derailer liked something to transfer all of their points to the sportsbook

    https://store.sportsbookreview.com/p...ction/14517922
    https://store.sportsbookreview.com/p...ction/14517937

    did they bet the same thing? my guess is yes, since the point transfer was within 9 minutes



    that isnt the worst part



    IAG had to renew bro

    somehow derailer decided to send her the exact amount???

    https://store.sportsbookreview.com/p...ction/14341652

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    This is a decent payoff from this contest for a $100 donation .
    Anything is possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    This is all circumstantial. No one should have funds withheld
    the odds of something happening with worse odds than winning the poweball, especially with sbr communication between the parties?


    Disagree

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    Iíve received pts to go PRO before.... whatís wrong w that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    This is all circumstantial. No one should have funds withheld

    A voice of reason
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