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    Gian2015
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    Bet365 - USA

    Hello
    I would like to ask our friends in USA the experience they have with Bet365, after entering the US market.

    Do they limit as soon as they limit in Europe after a handful of winning bets?
    Is there any law in US (for example in the new open market in New Jersey) for not limiting players because of winning?

    The worldwide giant (Bet365) has become a very soft book in recent years, they limit very very soon.

    Every answer will be very useful to me

    Thanks

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    Gian, that's huge news. Thx for reporting.

    I've always wanted a B365 acct. I'm looking fwd to hearing poster responses to your questions.

    I've thought of B365 as welcoming action bettors. Look at their site. B365 is a place u can be in action 365/24/7, no lie.

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    Who has them?

    Nj?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Gian, that's huge news. Thx for reporting.

    I've always wanted a B365 acct. I'm looking fwd to hearing poster responses to your questions.

    I've thought of B365 as welcoming action bettors. Look at their site. B365 is a place u can be in action 365/24/7, no lie.

    ChunkyTheGoat, If you asked me some years ago i would tell you that bet365 is THE BEST BOOKIE in the world (and i wager via internet over two decades, in uncounted bookies all over the world). Large limits to play, millions of prop bets and every game/every sport available for LIVE BETTING. Huge, excellent... but in recent years and more over in recent months they limit accounts (in Europe) after playing just 5-6 player bets in NBA (over/under points, rebs e.t.c.) or some other "weak" betting markets.

    That's the reason i ask, if they do the same in US market.

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    what usa market son?

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    Jjgold, as far as i know, Bet365 has already entered the US market. I am sure they did it in New Jersey, maybe in the other states that legalized betting too.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...UjIS8Ljwp3ajIr

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    I do not think they are operating in NJ yet

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    That's something new to me.
    I knew that they were already in there, maybe i am wrong. I had read in UK's newspapers (where they have the company) that after they agreed with the casinos they already entered.

    But i accept what you wrote, of course, i do not live there.

    I leave the post here, for anyone who has any experience from US with Bet365. I am just VERY interested to know what is (or will be) their policy there.

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    It’s not in Nj

    Probably still under review

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gian2015 View Post
    ChunkyTheGoat, If you asked me some years ago i would tell you that bet365 is THE BEST BOOKIE in the world (and i wager via internet over two decades, in uncounted bookies all over the world). Large limits to play, millions of prop bets and every game/every sport available for LIVE BETTING. Huge, excellent... but in recent years and more over in recent months they limit accounts (in Europe) after playing just 5-6 player bets in NBA (over/under points, rebs e.t.c.) or some other "weak" betting markets.

    That's the reason i ask, if they do the same in US market.
    Yeah, but Denise Coates still pays herself 3x the salary of Tim Cook.

    That's why we need a minimum bet rule in every country. Books have to accept winning players as well as they welcome losing players.

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    The business models are always the same whether it’s the United States or the UK if it’s the same firm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gian2015 View Post
    ChunkyTheGoat, If you asked me some years ago i would tell you that bet365 is THE BEST BOOKIE in the world (and i wager via internet over two decades, in uncounted bookies all over the world). Large limits to play, millions of prop bets and every game/every sport available for LIVE BETTING. Huge, excellent... but in recent years and more over in recent months they limit accounts .....
    Not just recent months. I lost my account 11/12 years ago to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    The business models are always the same whether it’s the United States or the UK if it’s the same firm
    That's true, but i asked hoping that the new laws in US could probably be more player-friendly than in Europe.
    As lonnie55 writes, ONLY the minimum bet rule will help the winning players.
    Some time ago had read that in Canada there were thoughts about a minimum bet rule (for about 100 dollars i think), but i don't know if it's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeeHAWWWW View Post
    Not just recent months. I lost my account 11/12 years ago to it.
    In recent years/months, it's ridiculous easy to limit you (Bet365).

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    Nope

    William Hill USA same as William Hill Uk

    Ban players all the time for betting weak lines

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    Great...

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    Bet365 will be operating out of Resorts World casinos in New York. Both Catskills and NYC location. Idk if they are anywhere else but when NY happens they will be running those books.

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    $.40 take in play lines
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    Upwards of 20% in the poker room.
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    Besides that it's s good book with quick payouts

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    Just put small deposit and use it to watch live sports

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    As a Canadian that has had access for years - I would say it's the most user friendly sportsbook in the world. If it gets into the United States. I would pick it up immediately. They are an absolutely proper operator... but they do prefer recreational players. They will limit you. They will kick you out if you arbitrage and hedge props alot, etc. So be careful. They are good for a decent amount of action though. Just know that they monitor the shit out of all their players. I would say they have the best sports betting technology in the world. Better than anything I seen in Vegas.
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    aljack, 100% correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    The business models are always the same whether it’s the United States or the UK if it’s the same firm
    No, it's not JJ.

    Some examples: bwin.fr is not the same like bwin.com because in France books have to pay higher taxes so the prices at bwin.fr are significantly lower than at bwin.com

    Racing betting at Ladbrokes UK is not the same like racing betting at Ladbrokes International because in UK Ladbrokes applies to the minimum bet rule (£500).

    In Germany the legal bodies are seeking for a maximum loss per month for every player.

    So the business model of a regulated sportsbook always depends on national laws.

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    In United States it’s exactly the same William Hill bans everybody in Vegas and Nj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    Bet365 will be operating out of Resorts World casinos in New York. Both Catskills and NYC location. Idk if they are anywhere else but when NY happens they will be running those books.
    Resorts World also has an electronic casino at Aqueduct Racetrack. They could be in there too. Terrible decision. Everybody knows about their bad reputation except the corporate numbskulls at Resorts World. What a shame.
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    I remember a news from UK, that they will do some steps against the Bookies who Limit to 1-2 € or even close the Betting Accounts of winning Players. No Joke Can´t find the news now, just read it in a other Forum.

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    the book you want in your state is MGM

    You do not want Euro companies but unfortunately most will be them

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    Quote Originally Posted by besime View Post
    I remember a news from UK, that they will do some steps against the Bookies who Limit to 1-2 € or even close the Betting Accounts of winning Players. No Joke Can´t find the news now, just read it in a other Forum.
    There's a voluntary minimum bet limit for horse racing a few books are doing. Maybe eventually the regulator will impose it more widely, but I doubt it - they're more concerned with problem gambling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by besime View Post
    I remember a news from UK, that they will do some steps against the Bookies who Limit to 1-2 € or even close the Betting Accounts of winning Players. No Joke Can´t find the news now, just read it in a other Forum.
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    Bet365 is the best in play in the world but there useless because you have half a clue you are limited quick

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    365 book is A MUST

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    BET 365 is a fabulous out, when I first started internet wagering they operated in the USA. A great out, and fast paying. In fact, I even hit a royal on their video poker that paid 8,000. you won't see or hear of that happening in most of the offshore outs we deal with. They are regulated and they must be honest, at least they were honest then, and I doubt things have changed.

    If they enter the USA market again I will sign up immediately.

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    It is one of the squarest book out there. If you are a winning bettor, don't bother with them. But it doesn't matter for 98% of the bettors since they all lose one way or other.

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    you guys are getting confused

    IN USA LEGAL MARKETS in 1 state

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    Quote Originally Posted by danwinkler View Post
    It is one of the squarest book out there. If you are a winning bettor, don't bother with them. But it doesn't matter for 98% of the bettors since they all lose one way or other.
    make that 99.99%. I know, I booked for decades. No winners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dante1 View Post
    make that 99.99%. I know, I booked for decades. No winners.
    That's the sad part about it. Something between 0.01 and 0.1% long-term winners but the global player bet365 with more than 20 mio customers worldwide and a founder who is a multi-billionaire is not able to handle 1 winner out of 1,000 or 10,000 players.

    It's a shame.

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