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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Ok but Rams will be 2 score favorites over another division winner.

    What does that say...
    No they won't not in Chicago

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Bears have a good QB too

    This is not Minnesota
    Bang.


    Fats let's discuss your team. You know the one that paid millions to a loser to be QB. Can't find a guy to kick a ball through the uprights. Won one playoff game in the Zimmer era on the luckiest play in nfl history and got blown out to foles as a 3.5 point favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Ok but Rams will be 2 score favorites over another division winner.

    What does that say...
    So your saying line will be somewhere between rams -4 and rams -16? Or were you saying Rams will be 14 point favs? If your saying 14 letís go to betpoints forum and give me Bears +14 for as much as you want to risk. The game will be Sunday night. Gonna be cold for them west coast boys in a game that realistically wonít mean much to either team. Bears have a clean road to division given niners and giants still to go. Packers have to basically win out and viqueens still go to Seattle and to patriots so they have tough road to division. Rams almost have one of top two slots locked up and since the other is the indoor saints being one or two doesnít matter as much as if 1 or 2 decided whether game was in LA or Chicago (where elements affect the game). I think the Bears will want the game more than Rams and that keeps it closer than 14. I also think your gonna see line under double digits for game either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    So your saying line will be somewhere between rams -4 and rams -16? Or were you saying Rams will be 14 point favs? If your saying 14 let’s go to betpoints forum and give me Bears +14 for as much as you want to risk. The game will be Sunday night. Gonna be cold for them west coast boys in a game that realistically won’t mean much to either team. Bears have a clean road to division given niners and giants still to go. Packers have to basically win out and viqueens still go to Seattle and to patriots so they have tough road to division. Rams almost have one of top two slots locked up and since the other is the indoor saints being one or two doesn’t matter as much as if 1 or 2 decided whether game was in LA or Chicago (where elements affect the game). I think the Bears will want the game more than Rams and that keeps it closer than 14. I also think your gonna see line under double digits for game either way.
    Rams haven't been 14 point favorites all season, but they're going to be at Chicago? Funny chit. Rams probably -3 give or take depending on injuries.

    And BTW, Rams have won by more than a TD only once in the last eight games, against SF.

    It also wouldn't surprise me if Bears end up favored in this game.
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    Rams -3.5. Interesting line. Rams have to travel east two in a row. Gonna likely be in the 20s at game time. If bears could run the ball they would be play for sure. Should be fun game if Trubisky is back.

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    Vikes 2.0. No question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clockwise1965 View Post
    Vikes 2.0. No question.
    Never got a response last time I asked. How so? Irrelevant next year? Wild card team next year?

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    Total Points Leaders


    RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
    1 Baltimore 3380 281.7 2333 194.4 1047 87.3 214 17.8
    2 Dallas 3818 318.2 2723 226.9 1095 91.3 223 18.6
    3 Houston 4098 341.5 3002 250.2 1096 91.3 235 19.6
    4 Chicago 3815 317.9 2785 232.1 1030 85.8 241 20.1
    5 Jacksonville 3787 315.6 2486 207.2 1301 108.4 243 20.3
    6 Tennessee 4091 340.9 2654 221.2 1437 119.8 245 20.4
    7 LA Chargers 4019 334.9 2771 230.9 1248 104.0 249 20.8
    8 Washington 4409 367.4 3176 264.7 1233 102.8 257 21.4
    9 New England 4430 369.2 3150 262.5 1280 106.7 259 21.6
    Seattle 4409 367.4 3008 250.7 1401 116.8 259 21.6
    11 Denver 4593 382.8 3128 260.7 1465 122.1 262 21.8
    12 Philadelphia 4416 368.0 3172 264.3 1244 103.7 266 22.2
    13 New Orleans 4256 354.7 3351 279.3 905 75.4 269 22.4
    14 Minnesota 3933 327.8 2743 228.6 1190 99.2 270 22.5
    15 Indianapolis 4174 347.8 2925 243.8 1249 104.1 279 23.3
    16 Pittsburgh 3947 328.9 2742 228.5 1205 100.4 282 23.5
    17 Green Bay 4222 351.8 2688 224.0 1534 127.8 287 23.9
    18 Buffalo 3530 294.2 2246 187.2 1284 107.0 293 24.4
    19 LA Rams 4408 367.3 2987 248.9 1421 118.4 298 24.8
    20 Miami 4793 399.4 3057 254.8 1736 144.7 300 25.0
    21 Carolina 4236 353.0 3081 256.8 1155 96.3 306 25.5
    22 NY Jets 4517 376.4 2977 248.1 1540 128.3 307 25.6
    23 Arizona 4336 361.3 2645 220.4 1691 140.9 310 25.8
    24 Cleveland 4953 412.8 3316 276.3 1637 136.4 312 26.0
    25 NY Giants 4532 377.7 3033 252.8 1499 124.9 315 26.3
    26 Detroit 4254 354.5 2817 234.8 1437 119.8 316 26.3
    27 Kansas City 5004 417.0 3540 295.0 1464 122.0 327 27.3
    28 Atlanta 4730 394.2 3162 263.5 1568 130.7 333 27.8
    29 San Francisco 4185 348.8 2887 240.6 1298 108.2 336 28.0
    30 Tampa Bay 4745 395.4 3293 274.4 1452 121.0 355 29.6
    31 Oakland 4759 396.6 2920 243.3 1839 153.3 367 30.6
    32 Cincinnati 5197 433.1 3357 279.8 1840 153.3 371 30.9

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    RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
    1 Kansas City 5246 437.2 3798 316.5 1448 120.7 444 37.0
    2 LA Rams 5279 439.9 3606 300.5 1673 139.4 419 34.9

    New Orleans 4759 396.6 3230 269.2 1529 127.4 419 34.9
    4 Pittsburgh 4965 413.8 3848 320.7 1117 93.1 346 28.8
    5 Chicago 4219 351.6 2834 236.2 1385 115.4 344 28.7
    6 LA Chargers 4793 399.4 3291 274.3 1502 125.2 340 28.3
    7 New England 4741 395.1 3281 273.4 1460 121.7 331 27.6
    8 Indianapolis 4535 377.9 3252 271.0 1283 106.9 325 27.1
    9 Seattle 4239 353.3 2453 204.4 1786 148.8 319 26.6
    10 Tampa Bay 5312 442.7 4134 344.5 1178 98.2 318 26.5
    11 Carolina 4522 376.8 2832 236.0 1690 140.8 304 25.3
    12 Houston 4488 374.0 2799 233.3 1689 140.8 302 25.2
    13 Baltimore 4484 373.7 2934 244.5 1550 129.2 297 24.8
    14 Atlanta 4531 377.6 3583 298.6 948 79.0 296 24.7
    15 Cincinnati 3976 331.3 2836 236.3 1140 95.0 286 23.8
    16 Green Bay 4567 380.6 3299 274.9 1268 105.7 281 23.4
    17 Denver 4388 365.7 2798 233.2 1590 132.5 276 23.0
    18 Minnesota 4331 360.9 3298 274.8 1033 86.1 275 22.9
    19 NY Giants 4202 350.2 3052 254.3 1150 95.8 267 22.3
    20 Cleveland 4324 360.3 2877 239.8 1447 120.6 266 22.2
    21 Philadelphia 4329 360.8 3090 257.5 1239 103.3 258 21.5
    22 San Francisco 4359 363.3 2809 234.1 1550 129.2 255 21.3
    23 Detroit 4080 340.0 2863 238.6 1217 101.4 254 21.2
    24 Dallas 3982 331.8 2403 200.3 1579 131.6 247 20.6
    25 Miami 3625 302.1 2393 199.4 1232 102.7 244 20.3
    26 NY Jets 3612 301.0 2309 192.4 1303 108.6 243 20.3
    27 Washington 3881 323.4 2482 206.8 1399 116.6 233 19.4
    28 Tennessee 3722 310.2 2370 197.5 1352 112.7 221 18.4
    29 Oakland 4163 346.9 2899 241.6 1264 105.3 220 18.3
    30 Jacksonville 4022 335.2 2687 223.9 1335 111.3 203 16.9
    31 Buffalo 3428 285.7 1975 164.6 1453 121.1 178 14.8
    32 Arizona 2872 239.3 1840 153.3 1032 86.0 175 14.6

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    Chicago = most complete team in the NFL as they are the only team in top 5 on both
    sides of the ball........

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    If I'm the Bears I dont play mitch and roll the dice again...just use him against Minny and someone else and win the division, nothing to be gained here..

    But let's be clear here, you have no idea what the Bears can do if Mitch plays at 80%+ in the playoffs. Also its the NFL, if Goff or Mahomes or Brees don't show up for a half they're ****** against the Bears/Pats/Texans(lol)

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    Nagy is a good coach but he seems to feel the need to outsmart everyone to their own demise
    He needed to take care of the ball in bad weather with Daniel as QB and he didn't
    This 100% shotgun nonsense doesn't work in December, especially in the playoffs
    A good mix of shotgun and under center is the best approach
    Multiple mishandled and bad snaps cost them all game long and even the last drive
    They needed to get under center and run the ball, which they do very well
    He also got cute by calling the TOs before half and cost them a FG
    You don't do that crap with a backup QB
    He also goes for 2 when it is not needed


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    Will Rams even score a TD tonight?

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    This Bears team is just garbage

    Nothing but a few Tribusky runs for 1st, a trick play and bizarre Rams coaching and penalties

    Everything the Rams have done tonite has just backfired.... anyone see that receiver that refused to get a first down even?

    How many teams hold the other guys QB to 50% passing, turn him over 3 or 4 times and cant put more than 6 points on the board...2 weeks after dropping 54 on the best team on grass in the NFL

    Weather was actually pretty good and turf was fine too.

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    they win the division next week when gb gets the same treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    This Bears team is just garbage

    Nothing but a few Tribusky runs for 1st, a trick play and bizarre Rams coaching and penalties

    Everything the Rams have done tonite has just backfired.... anyone see that receiver that refused to get a first down even?

    How many teams hold the other guys QB to 50% passing, turn him over 3 or 4 times and cant put more than 6 points on the board...2 weeks after dropping 54 on the best team on grass in the NFL

    Weather was actually pretty good and turf was fine too.
    lol is that a typo? I assume you meant Rams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    lol is that a typo? I assume you meant Rams.
    Sounds like a bitter post

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    This Bears team is just garbage

    Nothing but a few Tribusky runs for 1st, a trick play and bizarre Rams coaching and penalties

    Everything the Rams have done tonite has just backfired.... anyone see that receiver that refused to get a first down even?

    How many teams hold the other guys QB to 50% passing, turn him over 3 or 4 times and cant put more than 6 points on the board...2 weeks after dropping 54 on the best team on grass in the NFL

    Weather was actually pretty good and turf was fine too.
    Lol....ok guy

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    Number 1 defense
    Always wins

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    The D is legit, but Rams are rested

    Really inexcusable

    They will bounce back huge next week whoever they play

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