[GWags]

Tua has so far been the best player in college football on the best team. Theres your Heisman winner dummy.

[blackbox]

Tua has so far been the best player in college football on the best team. Theres your Heisman winner dummy.

Agreed Tua started moving the ball via air. Other qb was too one dependent on running the game and not able to throw worth beans. Tua would have much better stats if he played every down this year. Plus just one int. Case closed . gl all

[lonegambler23]

lol no one plays defense in the big12 goldy

[jjgold]

The guy is unstoppable

[ikid2groove415]

The guy is unstoppable

Facing Mickey Mouse defense

[kingdom]

I have to disagree about tua, he has the arm of the century, great feet in the pocket, very accurate. throws missiles, I havent seen anyone's balls that look like his, his deep passes are like rockets screeching through the air. i think he will be fine and he's not a running qb, if one thinks that they havent seen him play and only going by his complexion or saw the running td highlight against lsu. he's a pure pocket passer and has not ran the ball more than 5 times in any game this season. just because someone isnt slow doesnt make them a running qb. I like greer but he hasnt had a better season than either of those two. I think possibly facing oklahoma twice would help his case, if they win then he is put on a pedestal especially if he plays well which he would have to do to win twice. grier is on a worse team than both of them and I like looking at guys like him more still a hard decision if they beat ou twice you might have to have him at the ceremony.

this is all so true. i keep expecting ONE of his deep balls to be off target and they are all just sweet. i have never seen a college player throw such an accurate deep ball with ease. granted i didn't watch mahomes as i am not into video game football in the big 12.

[jjgold]

Oklahoma just has such a bad defense, all the candidates had good games today

[Mr KLC]

Kyler Murray said Monday that even though he thinks he could play in the NFL, he's still preparing to move on with his baseball career and give up football after this season.

"As of now, that's the plan," Murray said.

This summer, Murray was the ninth overall pick of the Oakland Athletics in the MLB Draft. He agreed to a deal with the A's that included a $4.66 million signing bonus.

[jjgold]

And of now......

Guy a massive stud

[Hawaii]

I was in vegas a few months before the season started and bet a few hundred dollars on Tua for heisman at +900. I asked them what the limit was and they said 10k. Most casinos had him at around +900. Put down the few hundred dollars I had in my wallet, went to the bank to pull out 10k and came back. Every casino had him at +300/+400 and he was the favorite in 10 minutes of time of me being at the bank. Has anyone seen a line move that much? The heisman line was up for a few weeks at that time and there was no way my few hundred dollars could of moved the line that much. Or did a whale hit that line the same time as me?

[15805]

You never heard of Paul Horrnung? He was one of us, banned from the NFL for GAMBLING.

Notre Dame was 2-8 when he won the Heisman, I don't recall any other Heisman winner who played on a
losing team.

[15805]

Grier deserves it because he has done the most with the least help. Tua has a big advantage in that Grier and Murray will probably have to play each other TWICE in two weeks. Once to end the regular season and the following week in the Big 12 playoffs. Both teams also have Okie State to deal with. This looks like the perfect set up for these two teams to eliminate themselves from the Playoffs and for each QB to eliminate the other from winning the Heisman.

I like Grier also but it's going to Tua by a mile:
abcislands- odds

10951	TUA TAGOVAILOA (ALABAMA)	-1000
	10952	DWAYNE HASKINS (OHIO STATE)	+2500
	10953	KYLER MURRAY (OKLAHOMA)	+500
	10954	SHEA PATTERSON (MICHIGAN)	+5000
	10955	TRAVIS ETIENNE (CLEMSON)	+5000
	10956	WILL GRIER (WEST VIRGINIA)	+1000

My hope is Grier getting an invite to the Heisman ceremony. $22 to win $88

$22.00

$88.00

Pending

8/30/18 7:00pm Football NCAA Football Heisman Trophy - Presentation Invite - Will Grier (QB West Virginia) +400

ESPN Experts voting:

ESPN Experts' Poll

Nov. 27, 2018

Name	Position	School	Year	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	5th	Total
Tua Tagovailoa	QB	Alabama	Soph.	8	2	0	0	0	48
Kyler Murray	QB	Oklahoma	Jr.	2	8	0	0	0	42
Dwayne Haskins	QB	Ohio State	Soph.	0	0	7	0	3	24
Will Grier	QB	West Virginia	Sr.	0	0	3	5	1	20
Gardner Minshew	QB	Washington State	Sr.	0	0	0	4	2	10
Jonathan Taylor	RB	Wisconsin	Soph.	0	0	0	1	2	4
Darrell Henderson	RB	Memphis	Jr.	0	0	0	0	2	2

[gojetsgomoxies]

i think it's Tua.. but still -1000?

oklahoma big game and alabama loss to georgia make kyler highly possible...... i know Tua has played good teams but has he played a stifling defense yet? (no idea whether georgia qualifies) i think it's still a possibility

[dmncnlou]

i think it's Tua.. but still -1000?

oklahoma big game and alabama loss to georgia make kyler highly possible...... i know Tua has played good teams but has he played a stifling defense yet? (no idea whether georgia qualifies) i think it's still a possibility

Lol. Alabama ain't losing to Georgia. They can name their score on them.

[BadNina]

i think it's Tua.. but still -1000?

oklahoma big game and alabama loss to georgia make kyler highly possible...... i know Tua has played good teams but has he played a stifling defense yet? (no idea whether georgia qualifies) i think it's still a possibility

LSU and Miss State both have good defenses. Miss State's D line is a pretty darn good one. Beat both teams by over 20 points.

Actually, Bama has beaten every team so far this year by more than 20 points. That's 12 teams by more than 20 points.

[jjgold]

Good call JJ

You have a clue

[cincinnatikid513]

if u want a career in the nfl as a qb better not winning the heisman trophy

[dmncnlou]

He's gonna get his sss kicked 77-10 to show for it.

[jjgold]

Men he is almost impossible to stop with full team

[jjgold]

Thank You

He was clearly best player

[daneblazer]

Nice call

[jjgold]

Blazer thanks
Won $20

[rm18]

What was his odds preseason?

[ans61201]

Impossible to stop

It’s a video game football with him

Lol until he gets beat by multiple scores in a few weeks

[ans61201]

Thank You

He was clearly best player

lol 3rd best at best

[dmncnlou]

Won't sniff 20 points versus Alabama.

[sandman0713]

He's gonna get his sss kicked 77-10 to show for it.

i thought him and tua showed a lot of class and came off as really good kids. they were both deserving imo. the above post on the other hand shows no class at all. just makes you sound like a bitter crybaby who doesn't know a lot about this game. 9 teams scored 10 or more on bama this season. none of them were half as good as this ou team on o. several were very poor offensive teams, and one was the citadel. they may well lose by double digits, but they are laying some points down.

[maritsa1819]

good job now he can be drafted by Cleveland after Baker breaks a leg on Sunday

[sweethook]

number 1 pick ?

[TheMoneyShot]

Great college QB. Deserves the award.

Not your typical NFL QB. He should go to MLB.

[ByeShea]

I was in vegas a few months before the season started and bet a few hundred dollars on Tua for heisman at +900. I asked them what the limit was and they said 10k. Most casinos had him at around +900. Put down the few hundred dollars I had in my wallet, went to the bank to pull out 10k and came back. Every casino had him at +300/+400 and he was the favorite in 10 minutes of time of me being at the bank. Has anyone seen a line move that much? The heisman line was up for a few weeks at that time and there was no way my few hundred dollars could of moved the line that much. Or did a whale hit that line the same time as me?

You, the line, the whale - all lost.

Anyway, here’s to counting your chickens before they hatch.

[jjgold]

He seems like a good kid too!

Great job

[LT Profits]

good job now he can be drafted by Cleveland after Baker breaks a leg on Sunday

number 1 pick ?

Murray is done with football, his next stop is with the Oakland A's.

[BigDofBA]

Won't sniff 20 points versus Alabama.

I wonder if you could name five players on each team without looking...

OU will definitely score more than 20 in this game.