[ApricotSinner32]

Guy got stiffed by betislands for 87k and didn't even bat an eye lid. That's a true pro right there. Guy is up handicapping 4am dart locks?

[biggie12]

patty

u think that was a true story?

guy was never a pro just good at math. probably made more money selling his book then gambling, and bookk sales im sure were not great

[jjgold]

nobody is sharp

NOBODY

[Sam Odom]

Justin7 referred to Jon Kreta as “the owner of BetIslands.”

[shari91]

Get stuffed Patty. You know exactly what happened and so did that prikk who last night tried to accuse me of shilling for BI - A book I never said one word about. Justin7 didn't get stiffed for shit. Cut out the nonsense.

[johnnyvegas13]

Who is Justin7

Is that a poster on here ?

[Sam Odom]

Who is Justin7

The 'Search' feature on SBR is your friend... So is Google

[Chi_archie]

Elihu!

Still Conquering Risk!

[Sam Odom]

archie , how old are you... 58 ?

[johnnyvegas13]

The 'Search' feature on SBR is your friend... So is Google

I did google and only sbr came up

[shari91]

I did google and only sbr came up

In his role at SBR he was basically the head of complaints for several years and an awesome conduit between a punter and a sportsbook. He's a lawyer, a lovely person outside of the forum thing and really quite smart when it comes to numbers apparently. Or so he said as many others have said differently but who knows.

My issue - and that of many others - with him arose when it became clear that he had knowledge well before anyone else that BetIslands was in trouble but because he was owed a considerable balance he pushed people to deposit, create new accounts, etc so that money could go to paying off what he was owed. He used his position here to entice people to deposit money at a sinking book in order to get his own cash out and while I understand it, I just can't accept that is ok. That's also why I'll arc up anytime anyone ever tries to insinuate or even blatantly states that I had anything to do with BI because anyone who was here at the time will know not only what I said/didn't say but how every other staff member reacted during that time. Just ludicrous to put my name and that shithole book in the same sentence ever. Hope that makes sense!

[Sam Odom]

My issue - and that of many others - with him arose when it became clear that he had knowledge well before anyone else that BetIslands was in trouble but because he was owed a considerable balance he pushed people to deposit, create new accounts, etc so that money could go to paying off what he was owed. He used his position here to entice people to deposit money at a sinking book in order to get his own cash out...

Very very like the scenario Sammy put forth yesterday... Justin wasnt the 1st to do something like that and certainly wont be the last

[Shutup]

It is funny I keep hearing about all these big winners and none post picks. But the excuse is there is no benefit to posting. So, they win because they say so. Sure. Yep. Even if they did they are irrelevant. Move on peeps. Move on

[Sam Odom]

But the excuse is there is no benefit to posting. (winners)

give us three upside benefits...


two


just one

[Shutup]

How about helping others. WTF are these people here for if not to talk about games and make picks? Especially if you are going to go on and brag about making a big score only to add little else

[Sam Odom]

How about helping others.

Backfires... -122 aint good no more at -150

[Shutup]

Yeah, I'm sure if Justin or whoever posts about taking KC(and have already taken them) the line will go up 5 points because everyone at SBR jumps on his play. Not that it even matters since it has already been bet

[Kermit]

What about Justin 1 through 6? Were those guys any good?

[Sam Odom]

Justin7 is a DON'T bettor on the Craps table

[Reload]

Justin7 is a DON'T bettor on the Craps table

That pretty much says it all

[johnnyvegas13]

In his role at SBR he was basically the head of complaints for several years and an awesome conduit between a punter and a sportsbook. He's a lawyer, a lovely person outside of the forum thing and really quite smart when it comes to numbers apparently. Or so he said as many others have said differently but who knows.

My issue - and that of many others - with him arose when it became clear that he had knowledge well before anyone else that BetIslands was in trouble but because he was owed a considerable balance he pushed people to deposit, create new accounts, etc so that money could go to paying off what he was owed. He used his position here to entice people to deposit money at a sinking book in order to get his own cash out and while I understand it, I just can't accept that is ok. That's also why I'll arc up anytime anyone ever tries to insinuate or even blatantly states that I had anything to do with BI because anyone who was here at the time will know not only what I said/didn't say but how every other staff member reacted during that time. Just ludicrous to put my name and that shithole book in the same sentence ever. Hope that makes sense!

Wow thx f posting

Sounds like this was a long time ago

[stealthyburrito]

Black eye that'll never go away.

Was very suspicious when BI popped up in '11 and was very quickly elevated only for the bottom to fall out less than 18 mos later

[pavyracer]

Elihu!

Still Conquering Risk!

[JohnGalt2341]

In his role at SBR he was basically the head of complaints for several years and an awesome conduit between a punter and a sportsbook. He's a lawyer, a lovely person outside of the forum thing and really quite smart when it comes to numbers apparently. Or so he said as many others have said differently but who knows.

My issue - and that of many others - with him arose when it became clear that he had knowledge well before anyone else that BetIslands was in trouble but because he was owed a considerable balance he pushed people to deposit, create new accounts, etc so that money could go to paying off what he was owed. He used his position here to entice people to deposit money at a sinking book in order to get his own cash out and while I understand it, I just can't accept that is ok. That's also why I'll arc up anytime anyone ever tries to insinuate or even blatantly states that I had anything to do with BI because anyone who was here at the time will know not only what I said/didn't say but how every other staff member reacted during that time. Just ludicrous to put my name and that shithole book in the same sentence ever. Hope that makes sense!

I'm not doubting anything you say but what I'm wondering is... if he got his money out how come there was that screenshot with his name and 85K(maybe it was 87). Was that faked? The screenshot was taken a couple of days before you could no longer login. The reason I know this is because my name was on there and the money next to my name was right... it was correct for a couple of days before the site went down completely. It appeared that he had 85K still left in the account. I'm not doubting that he didn't get paid. I'm just wondering... why was the 85K still there? Perhaps he made some sort of agreement with BetIslands beforehand. It all just seems very strange to me.

[shari91]

I'm not doubting anything you say but what I'm wondering is... if he got his money out how come there was that screenshot with his name and 85K(maybe it was 87). Was that faked? The screenshot was taken a couple of days before you could no longer login. The reason I know this is because my name was on there and the money next to my name was right... it was correct for a couple of days before the site went down completely. It appeared that he had 85K still left in the account. I'm not doubting that he didn't get paid. I'm just wondering... why was the 85K still there? Perhaps he made some sort of agreement with BetIslands beforehand. It all just seems very strange to me.

Hey John - sorry I didn’t see this until now or I would’ve replied sooner!! I’m on my phone so I’m not going to do the whole forensic search of threads at the moment but from what I remember Elihu still had a substantial balance there when BI finally went busto. And that was after getting payouts every week based on this arrangement. He made a lot of money there somehow and that’s why he was on a payment plan. I almost want to say he took advantage of a loophole but that could’ve been another book so I’m not going to back myself on that one 100%. But he either disclosed the payment plan scenario voluntarily on here or someone outed him and that’s when it all came out. It was such an emotional and honestly shitty time that I can’t remember that specific detail but the thread is still there if you have a look and have a day or two free to read it. It’s horrible and gut-wrenching for those who lost money there or were even inadvertently tarnished despite having zero to do with that shithole but it’s unfortunately a very important part of SBR’s history and thankfully lessons were definitely learned after that.

[Frank Mills]

Good at math ? Seems like he copied some shit down for this old video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyATmCJf4fc&t=217s

Besides, I thought you all said he was a failed lawyer ?

patty

u think that was a true story?

guy was never a pro just good at math. probably made more money selling his book then gambling, and bookk sales im sure were not great

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Guy got stiffed by betislands for 87k and didn't even bat an eye lid. That's a true pro right there. Guy is up handicapping 4am dart locks?

Who says he ever WAS beating the books?

[t-wizzle]

In his role at SBR he was basically the head of complaints for several years and an awesome conduit between a punter and a sportsbook. He's a lawyer, a lovely person outside of the forum thing and really quite smart when it comes to numbers apparently. Or so he said as many others have said differently but who knows.

My issue - and that of many others - with him arose when it became clear that he had knowledge well before anyone else that BetIslands was in trouble but because he was owed a considerable balance he pushed people to deposit, create new accounts, etc so that money could go to paying off what he was owed. He used his position here to entice people to deposit money at a sinking book in order to get his own cash out and while I understand it, I just can't accept that is ok. That's also why I'll arc up anytime anyone ever tries to insinuate or even blatantly states that I had anything to do with BI because anyone who was here at the time will know not only what I said/didn't say but how every other staff member reacted during that time. Just ludicrous to put my name and that shithole book in the same sentence ever. Hope that makes sense!

Wow I had no idea. I remember Justin7 years ago. He posted some very useful info. Like you said, the guy was smart with numbers.