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    Past performances mean nothing in sports

    That’s why most jokers lose, every game is a new game and has no impact on previous outings.

    Also laugh at revenge does anyone understand all of statistics are just random numbers and you only see the winning trends of that.

    Rosters change so much nowadays there’s no such thing as, players don’t care anymore about losing also and really hurts handicappers

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    In baseball, staring rotations as well as bullpen data are great for capping a game as is which ump is officiating so idk about this one JJ

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    pitching ok to cape off of but that is it in baseball

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    thats all i use is stats which are based off previous results, cannot expect to have an edge without this
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    lol

    god i hate sports bettors

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    is variable odds that nerd from last season that said he makes the lines? dude you sound like someone that just discovered power ratings like last year and now think you're a pro

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    If you understand why the line opens where it opens and moves to where it closes then you will go a long way towards winning long term.

    Use whatever it takes, stats, news, money flow, etc, to gain this understanding.

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    i feel like this is syllabus day of 2nd grade

    i should read these posts on a fb forum, not a betting forum

    thanks for the insight kvb

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    kvb, i was wondering, why does 100% of the lines i bet get worse

    can you help me understand this?

    i want to smash every one of you fukks in the face that think this is 1987 and everybody doesnt have penetrating power ratings, and that you're special

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    also, jj was talking about trends where you can trend yourself into anything you want

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    Trends are streaks are big in sports, not wise to bet against them... They are trending and streaking for a reason, because that certain team is hot and winning..

    Remember these streaks, good luck betting against them at the time - https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mor...ory/ss-AArPFqO

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    hahahahahahahahgdrfih;jofwajliwqajpiolfw hahahahahhilwefhliwsajh;irf

    shocker

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    trends are the same idea as touts saying 10-1 last week amond 2-4* plays when the team didnt score 0ver 30 and at home on tuesday

    fukkin marks

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    All info good info

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    lol wat?

    1+1 = 3

    there's info, use it

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    What have you done for me lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    That’s why most jokers lose, every game is a new game and has no impact on previous outings.

    Also laugh at revenge does anyone understand all of statistics are just random numbers and you only see the winning trends of that.

    Rosters change so much nowadays there’s no such thing as, players don’t care anymore about losing also and really hurts handicappers
    then you should only bet underdogs at least in all football bets. of course this is well known but people cannot resist betting favorites because of the previous weeks observations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reigle9 View Post
    kvb, i was wondering, why does 100% of the lines i bet get worse

    can you help me understand this?...
    I've profiled and help teach bettors for years. I don't know your specific situation, like when you bet or why you bet, but I can make an educated guess.

    If the vast majority of lines are moving against you by the close you are probably being led around my the marketplace. The money gets steered throughout the markets and when bets or money are funneled one way, whether it be the way of the general public or more market savvy bettors, the book tends to shade the lines, creating a small inefficiency.

    By the close, that inefficiency is stamped out either by bigger, more influential money hitting the "error" or by the books themselves, saying "we got you."

    Those being led might find it difficult to win over the long haul as a bettor is in a significantly better off being ahead of the market than behind it.

    I think almost all my Funds right now are beating the closing the line.


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    Quote Originally Posted by reigle9 View Post
    lol wat?

    1+1 = 3

    there's info, use it
    I would use that info to cause question to the source of the info.

    That in itself can be a valuable revelation, keeping you away from misleading or "bad" information. I could use that info other ways as well.

    It's not the information, it's how you use it the counts.


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    god you're annoying
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    It's all about numbers, not teams. But to arrive at a number, you must have information (Stats, weather, injuries, situations and location) and then you must manage your bankroll, which is the biggest cause of players losing. lack of money management.

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    jesus fukkin christ stfu
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    i try and educate and learn from every mistake i make , every day is a sponge more info thats goes into my models. Like for instance betting a road favorite in any pro sport is not good no matter the value but if you utilize money manage-ment , and not over expose yourself to any one market you can see good results. You stated some where above I make the lines?? lol funny, why would I say that ever been doing this 20 years still learning every new season that comes

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    Quote Originally Posted by reigle9 View Post
    jesus fukkin christ stfu
    Lol.. Let him know how ya really feel I say!!
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    its all math

    a sports guy never wins

    math guy wins and knows not one player on a team or a stat

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    take math courses and thank me with points

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    My favorite thing is when guy says but I watch the games

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    its all math

    a sports guy never wins

    math guy wins and knows not one player on a team or a stat
    Bullshit

    bullshit

    bullshit

    —- math should be a given

    if you gotta think twice or use a comp

    you don’t have it

    like a poker player deciding math


    during a hand

    if that shit don’t come calculated asap

    you wasting time on the important aspects

    go back to 9th grade

    if you have to speak on math

    amd even then

    this game ain’t for you


    Keep finger on the pulse on your outfit


    And if you can’t see it / feel it


    then stop and put your $ in an IRA



    cards don’t matter


    stats don’t matter



    wtf

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    I spend 2 minutes capping the game. Use no stats, line movements and all the other bullshit pros use. I am a lifetime $100,000 net winner.

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    Simply understand this one concept

    and there are several more to be elite

    but

    your not trying to beat the books

    your simply trying to beat the players

    they get the rake

    just like poker

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    its all math

    a sports guy never wins

    math guy wins and knows not one player on a team or a stat
    crazy concept jj, combine the 2

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    Past performances mean nothing in life...................

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    My favorite thing is when guy says but I watch the games
    If you are a daily capper and pro gambler it's impossible to watch all the games you bet on every day.. I bet 10 games a day at times with multiple sports.. Impossible to watch, sometimes scoreboard watch though..

    I watch one at night that's usually the prime time game and I bet those games smaller then others.. Professional gamblers don't watch games they bet on, recreational gamblers watch the games they bet on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Past performances mean nothing in life...................
    reconsidering past performances

    jk, this is just some loser hoping he wins the lotto lol

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