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    Nobody can figure out why Army is favored over Hawaii tomorrow

    Talk to at least 50 people this week from all over the United States and not one person has Army favored in this game

    Interesting line

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Talk to at least 50 people this week from all over the United States and not one person has Army favored in this game

    Interesting line
    Hawaii is playing at 6am Hawaii time... try to find a teenager that is even coherent at 6am

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    Weak and foolish thread Gold, I'll tell you why.

    It looks like I've forgotten more about handicapping than you will ever know, not the other way around.

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    The stacking forecast says Army wins with 30 points Hawaii's 13 points. The public gauge say Army wins 35-24.

    The line opened at 5, 5.5 in some houses, and jumped to 6.5, towards the forecast.

    The early bettors must be sharp, forecast style, because that line moved upward in the face of nothing but public pressure and money on Hawaii.

    The books are developing a contrarian situation here where sharper money, but perhaps not all, are also on that contrarian side...
    The money is on Army, Gold, always has been.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Weak and foolish thread Gold, I'll tell you why.

    It looks like I've forgotten more about handicapping than you will ever know, not the other way around.



    The money is on Army, Gold, always has been.

    Let me add that the sharp money stopped flowing on Army when the number hit 7. The number became too torched.

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    JJ, it's a tricky game to cap. Very true. Some things to consider:

    1) Extreme travel game.
    2) Bows have performed MUCH better than expected. So, they probably weren't going to be Fav here.
    3) Army looked pretty sharp last out. Rushing game going, could be hard on Bows.

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    7 is still way too low, army should be favored by 14 or so with that ridiculous start time advantage and travel

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    It's one of those games where the sharps might lose. It's oversharp

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    Let me add that the sharp money stopped flowing on Army when the number hit 7. The number became too torched.
    ood thing i got them at 6.5

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    nobody can figure out why you are mlb moderator but we deal with it

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    Im guessing vegas still thinks hawaii is the same team as last season

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    love hawaii here.. the are a legit tp 50 team and climbing after what ive seen

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    We were playing Army on Tuesday jj.

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    Playing the under here. Hawaii gonna be asleep the whole first half

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    Hawaii is playing at 6am Hawaii time... try to find a teenager that is even coherent at 6am
    And as a result they are 2 and 10 when playing in the eastern time zone.Don't kid yourself those 5,000 mile trips are brutal.
    Big reason why the Mariners in baseball haven't had much success is because they fly many more miles each season then any other team.

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    these kids get together and play once a week, its not a baseball team which travels 3-4 nights a week. These guys are ready for this. Your 2-10 when playing in est time analogy does not hold much .

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    Quote Originally Posted by veriableodds View Post
    Your 2-10 when playing in est time analogy does not hold much .
    Speaks volumes

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    And as a result they are 2 and 10 when playing in the eastern time zone.Don't kid yourself those 5,000 mile trips are brutal.
    Big reason why the Mariners in baseball haven't had much success is because they fly many more miles each season then any other team.
    Makes sense. I think I'll sprinkle a little on Army.

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    Haven't see Hawaii play much yet but this Cole Mcdonald kid sure does have an impressive stat line so far this year albeit against terrible competition. Hawaii got torched on the ground last week against Navy who also runs the triple option that Army does, but if they can't stop Hawaii through the air it may not matter. 6 AM does seem really earlier to play a game. Hell at any age I would hate to play a game before 10 am.

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    Navy rushed for over 300 yards v Hawaii in a loss. Army gave up over 300 passing yards v Liberty! I will continue to ride the Hawaii OVER (62) train until it crashes

    good luck today boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    Navy rushed for over 300 yards v Hawaii in a loss. Army gave up over 300 passing yards v Liberty! I will continue to ride the Hawaii OVER (62) train until it crashes

    good luck today boys.
    Sounds good to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by veriableodds View Post
    these kids get together and play once a week, its not a baseball team which travels 3-4 nights a week. These guys are ready for this. Your 2-10 when playing in est time analogy does not hold much .
    This^^ Plus hawaii looks great right now beating colorado st, navy and rice, meanwhile army lost to duke and only put up 34 points on liberty??? Comon now, ill def take my chances with the better team as a dog, hawaii ml+205

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    Navy rushed for over 300 yards v Hawaii in a loss. Army gave up over 300 passing yards v Liberty! I will continue to ride the Hawaii OVER (62) train until it crashes

    good luck today boys.
    agreed

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    army is laying a touchdown lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    agreed
    Jake. 230am local time. Hoping you just returned from Cheetahs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venom72 View Post
    This^^ Plus hawaii looks great right now beating colorado st, navy and rice, meanwhile army lost to duke and only put up 34 points on liberty??? Comon now, ill def take my chances with the better team as a dog, hawaii ml+205
    Agree they have the rainbow power to take flight.. Hope they do
    GL

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    Men thanks for all your input

    I did not make the play yet after reading everything

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    one of the more interesting games for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by veriableodds View Post
    these kids get together and play once a week, its not a baseball team which travels 3-4 nights a week. These guys are ready for this. Your 2-10 when playing in est time analogy does not hold much .
    there's still jet lag, even if they've been there a couple days

    have you ever been to hawaii? i get up at 2-3am the first few days because it is really 7-8am milwaukee time

    last time hawaii played in the eastern time zone they lost 63-3

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayDr3am View Post
    army is laying a touchdown lol
    So what you are saying is the line makers in Vegas made a colossal mistake making the opener Army -7
    The sports books are not in the colossal mistake business.
    There's a reason why Army is a TD favorite.

    I was leaning toward Army, but now I'm thinking I'll pass on this affair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    So what you are saying is the line makers in Vegas made a colossal mistake making the opener Army -7
    The sports books are not in the colossal mistake business.
    There's a reason why Army is a TD favorite.

    I was leaning toward Army, but now I'm thinking I'll pass on this affair.
    why would you pass? army -6.5 might be the best pick on the board

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    I took Hawaii

    FYI

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    why would you pass? army -6.5 might be the best pick on the board
    I wavering now.
    May go 1* Army

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    I could not understand why army was favored by 6 points either. Everyone I know has made a mint on Hawaii in the past 3 games, (except me) and absolutely love them. They are a public team this year imo.
    After reading all this. It sounds like a really confident Hawaii lover. Talking people out of stealing, and easily winning with army.
    Cause my momma, my friends momma, and my mommas momma all are on Hawaii. Noone respects Army.
    Sorry, I'm new, just my 2 cents. Maybe the pro wants us all betting Hawaii too, so he can guarantee his Army pick. You never know. 😋

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amay537 View Post
    I could not understand why army was favored by 6 points either. Everyone I know has made a mint on Hawaii in the past 3 games, (except me) and absolutely love them. They are a public team this year imo.
    After reading all this. It sounds like a really confident Hawaii lover. Talking people out of stealing, and easily winning with army.
    Cause my momma, my friends momma, and my mommas momma all are on Hawaii. Noone respects Army.
    Sorry, I'm new, just my 2 cents. Maybe the pro wants us all betting Hawaii too, so he can guarantee his Army pick. You never know. 
    Good post newbie.
    Welcome aboard.

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    Brock Landers sent this email 2 days ago

    "Hawaii ML

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    GET SOME!"

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