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    College Football Play's for Saturday and thought for the day

    Why work so hard to be normal, when God created you to stand out?

    Duke +2 1/2

    Georgia -10

    Arizona St +5

    Have a great Saturday!
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    Ranger , GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Ranger , GL
    Thanks Sam!

    You ready to go pro again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post

    You ready to go pro again?

    NO...

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    odom clowned him

    propz sammy

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWD View Post
    odom clowned him

    propz sammy
    ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    NO...
    What did they do to make you not re-up?

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    Gonna give your picks a look & consideration.

    GL RF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Gonna give your picks a look & consideration.

    GL RF
    Thanks H!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    ???
    guy says stand out be different then asks the most redundant question in forum history lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWD View Post
    guy says stand out be different then asks the most redundant question in forum history lol
    Didn't know it was such a huge subject

    Sorry for asking

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    Sammy broke

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    Ranger , stay focused

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Ranger , stay focused
    You're right. I still have MLB and Los Alamitos to look at

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    Why work so hard to be normal, when God created you to stand out?

    Duke +2 1/2

    Georgia -10

    Arizona St +5

    Have a great Saturday!
    My man, I hate to be a dick or a broken record, but I have to ask.

    Why take the 2.5 with Duke? The odds Northwestern will win that game by 1-2 points is less than 1%.

    You can get Duke at +120 right now.

    I am going to preach this until you guys realize you are letting cash on the table. If you lose the game, you save 10 cents. If you win the game outright, you left 30 cents on the table.

    Over the course of a season, it matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quant View Post
    My man, I hate to be a dick or a broken record, but I have to ask.

    Why take the 2.5 with Duke? The odds Northwestern will win that game by 1-2 points is less than 1%.

    You can get Duke at +120 right now.

    I am going to preach this until you guys realize you are letting cash on the table. If you lose the game, you save 10 cents. If you win the game outright, you left 30 cents on the table.

    Over the course of a season, it matters.
    My numbers say Duke wins by 1. I'm taking the extra 3.5 points in my view. Pointspread edge and moneyline edge are two entirely different wagers. You have to first determine your edge on each. Now I agree there is an edge moneyline on Duke. But I find that the bigger edge is taking 2.5.

    It's debatable on which wager one should take here but long term I think playing the point spread is the better edge IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    My numbers say Duke wins by 1. I'm taking the extra 3.5 points in my view. Pointspread edge and moneyline edge are two entirely different wagers. You have to first determine your edge on each. Now I agree there is an edge moneyline on Duke. But I find that the bigger edge is taking 2.5.

    It's debatable on which wager one should take here but long term I think playing the point spread is the better edge IMO
    Appreciate the answer. I really do, most guys don't respond when I ask them that question.

    Long term there is absolutely no question the play is the ML.

    I created this thread right here on SBR.

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...5-2-2-5-a.html

    Let me quote myself...

    From 2013 thru 2017 there were 2832 games in 1-A. Of those 2832 games, there were 265 games (9.3%) where the close was 2.5 or less. That's 9% of your available games that close at 2.5 points or less.

    Of those 265 games, 4 of them ended with the underdog covering with either +1.5, +2, or +2.5. That is 1.5% of the total games. In other words, 98.51% of the time, if you took the +1.5, +2, +2.5, the numbers would make absolutely no difference whatsoever....

    Don't confuse your power numbers with the probability of the event outcome being Northwestern winning by 1 or 2 points.

    The probability of that happening is about 1.5%. I gave you 5 year data, 10 year data is even more convincing. 10 year data suggest the outcome of a dog needing those 1-2 points is 1.1%.

    A dog needing 1.5-2-2.5 has to win ATS has happened 7 times (1.1%)

    7 times in 612 games over the last 10 years in NCAA Football taking the points would have helped you. 7.

    On the other hand, dogs getting those numbers won outright last year 19 times. Just last year.

    Good luck, I hope you win it.

    Cheers, man!

    Appreciated you not getting all pissed off, some guys are too sensitive on these boards if you ask them a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quant View Post
    Appreciate the answer. I really do, most guys don't respond when I ask them that question.

    Long term there is absolutely no question the play is the ML.

    I created this thread right here on SBR.

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...5-2-2-5-a.html

    Let me quote myself...

    From 2013 thru 2017 there were 2832 games in 1-A. Of those 2832 games, there were 265 games (9.3%) where the close was 2.5 or less. That's 9% of your available games that close at 2.5 points or less.

    Of those 265 games, 4 of them ended with the underdog covering with either +1.5, +2, or +2.5. That is 1.5% of the total games. In other words, 98.51% of the time. if you took the +1.5, +2, +2.5, the numbers would make absolutely no difference whatsoever....

    Don't confuse your power numbers with the probability of the event outcome being Northwestern winning by 1 or 2 points.

    The probability of that happening is about 1.5%. I gave you 5 year data, 10 year data is even more convincing. 10 year data suggest the outcome of a dog needing those 1-2 points is 1.1%.

    A dog needing 1.5-2-2.5 has to win ATS has happened 7 times (1.1%)

    7 times in 612 games over the last 10 years in NCAA Football taking the points would have helped you. 7.

    On the other hand, dogs getting those numbers won outright last year 19 times. Just last year.

    Good luck, I hope you win it.

    Cheers, man!

    Appreciated you not getting all pissed off, some guys are too sensitive on these boards if you ask them a question.
    Nah man I like feedback like this. It can only make me better. I appreciate the history. But my main question is the sample. Is it a big enough sample to determine that those numbers hold over 10,000 play's? Those numbers are pretty convincing but I think for one to determine anything number wise you need at least 10K in samples, something I learned in statistics class in college. Again I appreciate the feedback as I will take this in consideration in the future when determining which way to go a far as M/L or pointspread.

    Cheers back at ya brah

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    2 down one to go

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    Looking good

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    2 down one to go
    Man, hope you laugh at this-- but I told ya.. ML!


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    I had the Duke moneyline Range...lol.

    I post my NCAAF Upset Baskets and Quant would probably be pleased with the small moneylines it takes.

    Good work so far Range but I am on the other side of tonight's game...

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
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    Looking good so far. Let's get the late one

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I had the Duke moneyline Range...lol.

    I post my NCAAF Upset Baskets and Quant would probably be pleased with the small moneylines it takes.

    Good work so far Range but I am on the other side of tonight's game...





    Oh no that kangaroo!

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    Good Work Range!


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    It is called sweeping the board

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    It is called sweeping the board
    Thanks jj, K and Quant. Now it's another day and you guys know the old saying "You're only as good as your last win.

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    nice work Range Finder......keep it up, brother!...

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    Really nice job, Range.

    Well done!

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