1. 09-03-18 06:58 PM #36
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  2. 09-03-18 07:25 PM #37
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    Don’t forget big Ben is getting older and slower anything can happen on a weekly basis with Pittsburgh they’re not who you think they are
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  3. 09-03-18 07:30 PM #38
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    Cleveland is 1-31 under Hue Jackson.
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  4. 09-03-18 08:42 PM #39
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    this is what the entire forum did last season lol got hype about the browns..
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  5. 09-04-18 05:08 AM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Don’t forget big Ben is getting older and slower anything can happen on a weekly basis with Pittsburgh they’re not who you think they are
    Afc north is a bad division. Bengals could surprise and possibly win 9 games but ravens and browns look bad to me.

    Pitt is loaded on offense. Their defense looks like middle of the pack but in their division, it should be enough.
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  6. 09-04-18 05:13 AM #41
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    Ben is still good enough to beat the Browns even without Bell. I don’t think the Steelers can win the super bowl but I also think the Browns will struggle to win 6 games
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  7. 09-04-18 08:32 AM #42
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    Browns are the best value on the board and it’s not close. Browns +5.5 already pending for me.
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  8. 09-04-18 08:58 AM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVegasGrind View Post
    Browns are the best value on the board and it’s not close. Browns +5.5 already pending for me.
    I would say the Chargers-3 if I had to pick a spread or Seattle+3. Not feeling the Browns but if they cover I will be happy as long as the Browns don't win. the Browns in Vegas is down to +4 or even +3.5 some places so definitely some movement.
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  9. 09-04-18 10:41 AM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVegasGrind View Post
    Browns are the best value on the board and it’s not close. Browns +5.5 already pending for me.
    I heard this every week last season and just shook my head in disbelief as I kept cashing by fading them. This season should be no different. A losing culture is in place from the very top. Until that changes this team is not worth backing.

    browns will have to put up a ton of points every week to be in games. Williams one of the worst if not the worst dc in league. His schemes are outdated by over a decade. Fun watching his lbs try to stay with slot wr play after play. Haley is a bad oc fit as well. He hates calling play action while Taylor is strong out of it. Haley won’t change. He wants the hc job here and will look to undermine hue.
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  10. 09-04-18 11:22 AM #45
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    At this point, I think it would better for the Steelers if Bell doesn't play at all. Last year he showed up 9 days before the 1st game which was against the Browns and he sucked ass. 10 carries for 32 yards and 3 catches for 15. Steelers won 21-18.
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  11. 09-04-18 01:42 PM #46
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    The people who like the browns are probably the same ones who liked flostate last night........
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  12. 09-04-18 02:06 PM #47
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    Browns can win. Steelers overrated.

    Bell is a cancer. He would be unrestricted FA next year
    but won't even suit up or show up. Pathetic snob.
    Definitely gets in their heads. Browns will be lit. Hungry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    The people who like the browns are probably the same ones who liked flostate last night........
    Your opinion on this game is irrelevant. You are a Steelers fan. I got +5.5. I'm happy
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    Lol.........I never bet on steelers.....

    I bet futures on them for the first time ever!!
    If their D holds up half decent this year nothins touchin them!!

    I guess you didn't know how severe Haley held this team back from day one,especially Ben.......

    He was cancer..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Lol.........I never bet on steelers.....

    I bet futures on them for the first time ever!!
    If their D holds up half decent this year nothins touchin them!!

    I guess you didn't know how severe Haley held this team back from day one,especially Ben.......

    He was cancer..........
    Yes Haley held them back. Not Tomlin though. He is a genius.
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    Tomlin's a good Coach as he got them to 2 SB's,
    Then Haley came right afterwards........

    They always had the talent as their drafting/trading is the best in the league....

    Cleveland is Shit period.....
    So you're betting on shit to win........
    What,you hoping it isn't diarrhea?

    LB,you only bet on shit every year, just so when you finally do hit one, you can say
    see I told you so...........
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    Oh I see you decided you were only betting the ATS.......
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    No .
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  19. 09-04-18 03:22 PM #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Tomlin's a good Coach as he got them to 2 SB's,
    Then Haley came right afterwards........

    They always had the talent as their drafting/trading is the best in the league....

    Cleveland is Shit period.....
    So you're betting on shit to win........
    What,you hoping it isn't diarrhea?

    LB,you only bet on shit every year, just so when you finally do hit one, you can say
    see I told you so...........
    Browns aren't good obviously. It's a spot play. Taylor will give the Steelers problems. Last year on this spot the Steelers barely beat kizer
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  20. 09-04-18 03:24 PM #55
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    Browns covered the ATS 4x last year and 2 of them were against Pittsburgh
    so you got a pretty good chance........
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  21. 09-04-18 08:29 PM #56
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    Gravy I agree with you on last years browns team. Mayfield is an upgrade compared to Kizer and others. Guess we will see.
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  22. 09-05-18 02:25 PM #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVegasGrind View Post
    Gravy I agree with you on last years browns team. Mayfield is an upgrade compared to Kizer and others. Guess we will see.
    Mayfield is the backup qb.
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  23. 09-05-18 04:07 PM #58
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    Bell out for this game.
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  24. 09-05-18 04:39 PM #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    I heard this every week last season and just shook my head in disbelief as I kept cashing by fading them. This season should be no different. A losing culture is in place from the very top. Until that changes this team is not worth backing.

    browns will have to put up a ton of points every week to be in games. Williams one of the worst if not the worst dc in league. His schemes are outdated by over a decade. Fun watching his lbs try to stay with slot wr play after play. Haley is a bad oc fit as well. He hates calling play action while Taylor is strong out of it. Haley won’t change. He wants the hc job here and will look to undermine hue.
    The Browns were cash money for me in the 1st half of most games last season. They would eventually fade in the 2nd half because Kizer would do some stupid shit, like turning the ball over in the red zone, over and over again. Tyrod is a huge upgrade.

    The Browns should have won both games last year. Hue fukked up game 1 and Corey Coleman dropped the TD in the end zone that would have won game 2. Glad to see his ass on the street.
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  25. 09-05-18 05:01 PM #60
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    Interestingly enough, in 2015, The Steelers averaged more points without Bell(32 per game) then they did with him(17).
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  26. 09-05-18 07:29 PM #61
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    This is starting to smell like a browns upset

    my guess is they lose by 1
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  27. 09-05-18 08:45 PM #62
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    No one is speaking about the elephant in the room. Big Ben has a history of concussions and it has gotten progressively worse. No one knows if you will get good Ben or "where the fukk am I" Ben. His short term memory is damn near shot to shit. If he gets rattled, shit will go down hill fast.
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    Need to factor in the weather in this game -- rainy and windy with the remnants of the Tropical Storm - Gordon.

    Expecting rain throughout the game with winds at 20 to 30 miles per hour. Definitely looks like an under play -- maybe that's why the line dropped down from 7 ... if the Steelers want to pass to make up for Bell being gone ... gonna be tough.
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  29. 09-09-18 10:04 AM #64
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    I think the Steelers might go down
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  30. 09-09-18 10:05 AM #65
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    YES
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  31. 09-09-18 10:10 AM #66
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    If you hate money and must bet on the NFL because you like action (hey, we’ve all been there), take the Browns and the points.
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    browns are the browns dumb penalties keep drives going allow steelers get touchdown
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    That was a clean hit. The officials are just fukking stupid

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    browns are the browns dumb penalties keep drives going allow steelers get touchdown
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    Always good reason 2 bet on a team that’s 1-31 Under HUE
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Shirts View Post
    That was a clean hit. The officials are just fukking stupid
    not under the new rules have to let the qb go
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