[topgame85]

Big declines. World Cup ends, Jersey up and running. Will pick up come football kickoff next month but the numbers they brought in July were total garbage.

Month Ending				Delaware Park		Dover Downs		Harrington Raceway		Total
6/24/18		Track Commission		$263,924		$57,293		$31,039		$352,256	40.2%
Full Scale Sports Betting started		Purse Increases*		$62,715		$14,683		$7,955		$85,353	9.8%
6/5/18		State Share**		$326,639		$71,976		$38,994		$437,609	50.0%
		Net Proceeds		$653,277		$143,952		$77,987		$875,216	100.0%
Month Ending				Delaware Park		Dover Downs		Harrington Raceway		Total
7/29/18		Track Commission		$133,843		$36,296		$15,417		$185,556	40.2%
		Purse Increases*		$31,804		$9,302		$3,951		$45,057	9.8%
		State Share**		$165,648		$45,598		$19,368		$230,614	50.0%
		Net Proceeds		$331,295		$91,196		$38,735		$461,226	100.0%

[topgame85]

Just found these numbers also. Interesting. Handle was actually up almost 20%. Hold just returned closer to the norm @ 5.6% from the crazy 12-13% they held the first month. Less futures and parlay wagers it seems. Peolple figuring out single game bets are the only fighting chance you have.

Month Ending				Delaware Park		Dover Downs		Harrington Raceway		Total
6/24/18		Amount Played*		$5,232,878		$1,180,447		$590,400		$7,003,725
Full Scale Sports Betting started		Amount Won**								$6,003,478
6/5/18		Vendor Fees***								$125,031
		Net Proceeds		$653,277		$143,952		$77,987		$875,216
		No. of Wagers		50,934		11,657		7,107		69,698
Month Ending				Delaware Park		Dover Downs		Harrington Raceway		Total
7/29/18		Amount Played*		$5,823,029		$1,674,262		$717,474		$8,214,765
		Amount Won**								$7,687,625
		Vendor Fees***								$65,893
		Net Proceeds		$331,295		$91,196		$38,735		$461,226
		No. of Wagers		90,603		19,877		12,006		122,486

[topgame85]

Average wager size of $67

[jjgold]

Lol

Offshore rules!!!!

[TheLock]

Damn I remember topgame from WAY back in the day. What’s new, pal?

[topgame85]

Damn I remember topgame from WAY back in the day. What’s new, pal?

Lock, been awhile pal. Doing well, how about you? Gamblers always come back. Getting prepared for a big football season. More outs available then I know what to do with now.

[TheLock]

All good brother. MLB has been a grind this year after being up 40+ units last year. But that’s sports betting life.

Good luck this football season.

[KVB]

Average wager size of $67

Offshore books pleased, saying "Please take these penny bettors out of here, we want to trim down our customer service centers."

[jjgold]

Offshore books pleased, saying "Please take these penny bettors out of here, we want to trim down our customer service centers."

yes

[Regul8er]

Average wager size of $67

lolol......and these are the guys who expect to drink for free all day/night as long as they place that $67 bet.

[RudyRuetigger]

it is fukkin july

one of 3 months you can go outside

dumb numbers

they must want govt assistance to rack in more cash

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Offshore books pleased, saying "Please take these penny bettors out of here, we want to trim down our customer service centers."

[jjgold]

I think states are going to realize there’s not as much money in this as they think there is.

It can’t even dent a state deficit not even 1/1,000,000th

It’s pennies the real money is in the slot machines , lottery, some table stuff

[KVB]

Small US bettors, for these big operations, are a hassle. These guys are depositing and withdrawing sometimes multiple times a week.

They hear their $150 won't be there Monday, but maybe Tuesday, and they start calling in, posting about it, harrassing the books.

The don't want and don't need that.

They will take the bigger players that keep the deposits in and they rarely hear from them.

Trimming that CS room might end up being better for some books, as they can concentrate on both types of bettors from around the world, but not those small US guys.

[thomorino]

Politicians in Pennsylvania are being pigs, they wants 12 million for a license and 35% of the revenue, no one has even applied for a license. I don't think the numbers mean anything until online gambling is offered, most people aren't going to drive to casinos and sportsbooks to bet when they can bet offshore from their bed and get bonuses and better numbers.

[jjgold]

Small US bettors, for these big operations, are a hassle. These guys are depositing and withdrawing sometimes multiple times a week.

They hear their $150 won't be there Monday, but maybe Tuesday, and they start calling in, posting about it, harrassing the books.

The don't want and don't need that.

They will take the bigger players that keep the deposits in and they rarely hear from them.

Trimming that CS room might end up being better for some books, as they can concentrate on both types of bettors from around the world, but not those small US guys.

I agree and small players crying they do not get paid their $100 in 2 days and shaking like fukkin leafs

[thomorino]

I think states are going to realize there’s not as much money in this as they think there is.

It can’t even dent a state deficit not even 1/1,000,000th

It’s pennies the real money is in the slot machines , lottery, some table stuff

I think there real money in it for these States if they did it right. The right way to do it is to have tons of contests, great bonuses and comps, and good lines. They could also offer same day payouts to banks as well. If done right I think there is money there - its just not being done the right way yet. I don't see most State budgets being impacted that much though - states like New Jersey will be broke until they stop letting unions and their pensions run the state into hte ground.

[jjgold]

I think there real money in it for these States if they did it right. The right way to do it is to have tons of contests, great bonuses and comps, and good lines. They could also offer same day payouts to banks as well. If done right I think there is money there - its just not being done the right way yet. I don't see most State budgets being impacted that much though - states like New Jersey will be broke until they stop letting unions and their pensions run the state into hte ground.

They will not do it

Why???????? They will not pay those salaries, states models least amount of workers possible to save money

Vegas is whore shit too.....nobody can compete with offshore companies they are gambling masterminds and miles and miles ahead of usa places

[topgame85]

Went to Costa Rica on vacation last year. Never knew average worker there makes only $8-14 a day. Visited the Southern Carribean area of the country and San Jose. Punta Uva was the most amazing beach I've ever seen and was empty. Literally. U.S. books can't compete with offshore pricing, and offers will only get better moving forward. Sure you are guaranteed payment at U.S. based books, but all new players who get into it seriously will end up landing offshore.

[jjgold]

Excellent post gamer

[pavyracer]

Delaware is a very small state. Isn't Costa Rica bigger than Delaware? You are comparing apples with oranges.

[jjgold]

Delaware a poor state too

[topgame85]

Excellent post gamer

I'm no bowling ball coach. Macro not micro over here pal. Big picture.

[jjgold]

I think the Delaware sports book is not that bad actually at least it looks kind of like Vegas meaning the racetrack

[ChuckyTheGoat]

JJ, give us some more updates on the Northeast books.

Are these clowns going to offer -110 juice?

[jjgold]

Some might offer -110

AC better shot

[KVB]

Forget the juice, these limits are nuts, there is no money in it. There is none around for taxes.

It will be slot machines lining those places in no time, if there aren't already. I don't know Delaware.

The book and its access never bring the dollars that those fight for it claim. I think the NJ online campaign started out way shy of its projections.

Interesting to see how they make up for the numbers. Everything in such an early stage and operations will be destined to change hands, multiple times.

Sweep? Check in pal, let's get it going out there, somewhere, and bring a real book to town.

[jjgold]

Delaware does not care...casino state

They know no money in sports betting compared to casino

[Bostongambler]

Kojack

[nyplayer33]

Please use the brain more. 2 guys go to bet some futures or baseball...get some lunch and go play slots. It brings people in..they know what they are doing...use brains

[RudyRuetigger]

I'm gonna have to bury clowns in this thread when I back to computer

[RudyRuetigger]

Small US bettors, for these big operations, are a hassle. These guys are depositing and withdrawing sometimes multiple times a week.

They hear their $150 won't be there Monday, but maybe Tuesday, and they start calling in, posting about it, harrassing the books.

The don't want and don't need that.

They will take the bigger players that keep the deposits in and they rarely hear from them.

Trimming that CS room might end up being better for some books, as they can concentrate on both types of bettors from around the world, but not those small US guys.

completely wrong

you are showing how clueless you are

hey bro, what do you think the average bet is offshore?

[RudyRuetigger]

Went to Costa Rica on vacation last year. Never knew average worker there makes only $8-14 a day. Visited the Southern Carribean area of the country and San Jose. Punta Uva was the most amazing beach I've ever seen and was empty. Literally. U.S. books can't compete with offshore pricing, and offers will only get better moving forward. Sure you are guaranteed payment at U.S. based books, but all new players who get into it seriously will end up landing offshore.

recreational bettors will throw $20 on any game they want to be regardless of what the actual ML is

for instance super bowl line of +180, they will just bet a friend $20 straight up

so who might find offshore? well guys learn odds and have a decent shot at actually winning, just as you said

and now you are adding on bonuses and lower lines to compete? ok...so the recreational bettors will be staying in usa

who is left?

sharps

more offshore books will go under

[KVB]

Delaware does not care...casino state

They know no money in sports betting compared to casino

I wasn't sure about Delaware, but this makes sense for sure.

[RudyRuetigger]

I wasn't sure about Delaware, but this makes sense for sure.

good idea for you to ignore my post

you can remember what i said and use it in 5months to act sharp instead of this normal line

phillyguy was calling you out with the head scratcher and you took the bait to double down

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