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    Chris Archer Traded to Pirates

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    wow

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    Rays in tank mode.... again

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    Rays in tank mode.... again
    There record doesnít show that - they got good guys running that team

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    Rays getting Austin Meadows, Tyler Glasnow and third piece still getting discussed.

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    Interesting call. It really is.

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    Archer on the decline - Teams like Oakland/Tampa always know when 2 get Rid of players

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    plus they just got pham so maybe they are just retooling and all the guys they gave up for pham they received in this archer deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratpack View Post
    plus they just got pham so maybe they are just retooling and all the guys they gave up for pham they received in this archer deal
    Forgot about that outfield looking solid with Pham, Meadows, Smith and Kevin "Big Poppa Pump" Kiermaier.

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    Glasnow is still a good prospect and has big league experience. Not sure how hes been in the minors but could be a solid contributor next season.

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    People in Florida donít support baseball - This guys need relocation

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    Quote Originally Posted by krk1030 View Post
    Glasnow is still a good prospect and has big league experience. Not sure how hes been in the minors but could be a solid contributor next season.

    he was an amazing prospect with video game like numbers in minors as a starter

    very wild and a bit of a fragile head case in majors. some pretty epic melt down starts in the majors, and starting to maybe turn the corner as a mid reliever.

    if he settles down and gains some confidence, change of scenery, new pitching coach

    guy could still have a huge ceiling. very tall and lanky. Remember it took Randy Johnson a long time to figure it out too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    he was an amazing prospect with video game like numbers in minors as a starter

    very wild and a bit of a fragile head case in majors. some pretty epic melt down starts in the majors, and starting to maybe turn the corner as a mid reliever.

    if he settles down and gains some confidence, change of scenery, new pitching coach

    guy could still have a huge ceiling. very tall and lanky. Remember it took Randy Johnson a long time to figure it out too.
    Agree with all till you mentioned Randy Johnson.

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    rays win with anyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by krk1030 View Post
    Glasnow is still a good prospect and has big league experience. Not sure how hes been in the minors but could be a solid contributor next season.
    glasnow was unreal at triple a, but really struggled in the majors.

    kinda feels like the pirates gave up on him IMO

    pirates have an outfield surplus, so someone was expendable if they were going to make a big move (meadows)

    pirates have done well with AL east pitchers, so im going to hope they are right about archer

    archie is right, he was much better in relief than as a starter in the big leagues
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    WOW im from Pittsburgh and this is actually the first big boy move they made in years. I'm scared to see what they gave up.

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    actually this is a good deal for both teams, interested to see who the PTBNL is
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSpoon111 View Post
    WOW im from Pittsburgh and this is actually the first big boy move they made in years. I'm scared to see what they gave up.
    glasnow meadows 3rd player to be named later
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    So we gave up Glasnow hes super very overrated good in minors not so much in pros thus far he still got years before hes going to be something if he even is. I like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    actually this is a good deal for both teams, interested to see who the PTBNL is

    I read its a significant asset

    been busy today, trying to catch up

    haven't seen the PTBNL on the Pirates Kela deal with Texas earlier

    anyone got details on that?

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    neverauskas as a possible PTBNL in the kela deal, could have sworn i saw that

    same as archer deal, a "big asset"
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    Clearly a win for the Pirates right now 3 years from now could be a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    neverauskas as a possible PTBNL in the kela deal, could have sworn i saw that

    same as archer deal, a "big asset"
    i'm thinking they'll deal from their pretty significant middle infield depth.... Newman, Kramer, Reyes, Tucker, Moroff, Frazier, Hayes

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    Meanwhile; The Astros deported Jiles to Canada. Lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebumdude View Post
    Meanwhile; The Astros deported Jiles to Canada. Lmao.
    Boo who we deported Cole to you guys you welcome lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSpoon111 View Post
    Boo who we deported Cole to you guys you welcome lol
    Touche'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSpoon111 View Post
    Boo who we deported Cole to you guys you welcome lol
    Cole for 15 more months vs 4+ yrs of Joe Musgrove, 5 more of Colin Moran, plus Jason Martin tearing it up on farm, which I would venture helped make the decision of letting go of a guy like Meadows a little easier.

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    my son who works for the rays says the team loves these prospects.

    front office is very happy with the return for archer

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    Quote Originally Posted by allabout the $$$ View Post
    my son who works for the rays says the team loves these prospects.

    front office is very happy with the return for archer
    Have you seen Glasnow pitch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSpoon111 View Post
    Have you seen Glasnow pitch?

    going by what i was told. the top pitching prospect to go along with the other rays pitchers for the next couple of years the rotation will be nasty

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    Archer is overrated..Tampa is making the right call

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    Quote Originally Posted by allabout the $$$ View Post
    going by what i was told. the top pitching prospect to go along with the other rays pitchers for the next couple of years the rotation will be nasty
    Pirates have been saying that for last 5 years about there prospects prospects is just that a hope and prayer

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSpoon111 View Post
    Pirates have been saying that for last 5 years about there prospects prospects is just that a hope and prayer
    yeah like when they said that about Cutch as he came through system

    where did that get them?

    oh wait.


    fact of the matter is, that the ONLY way scrub market teams like the Pirates can compete is if their prospects pan out and they get lucky with some trades and scrap heap buys....and they have been enough for the past 5 years to get them competing way more than they did for 2 decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    yeah like when they said that about Cutch as he came through system

    where did that get them?

    oh wait.


    fact of the matter is, that the ONLY way scrub market teams like the Pirates can compete is if their prospects pan out and they get lucky with some trades and scrap heap buys....and they have been enough for the past 5 years to get them competing way more than they did for 2 decades.
    Name 3 more that came thru the sysyem

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