View Poll Results: Did John Cynn slowroll the final hand?

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  1. 07-15-18 02:41 PM #1
    dlowilly
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    Thoughts on final hand WSOP???

    Did John Cynn slowroll Tony Miles on the final hand even though he said he didn't?

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  2. 07-15-18 02:45 PM #2
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    They keep saying Miles was bluffing and IDK why, he thought he had the best hand
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  3. 07-15-18 02:51 PM #3
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    A nitroll, not a slowroll.

    The whole final table Cynn tanked whenever facing a big bet. Add in that he was tired and it's understandable. It should have been an auto-call, but he wasn't malicious about tanking.
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  4. 07-15-18 02:56 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    A nitroll, not a slowroll.

    The whole final table Cynn tanked whenever facing a big bet. Add in that he was tired and it's understandable. It should have been an auto-call, but he wasn't malicious about tanking.
    Cosign this post.

    Also he really didn't want to play big pots against miles, miles wanted the big pots as the worse player should
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  5. 07-15-18 02:56 PM #5
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    miles is a dbag he was talking trash vs Antonio earlier when he knocked him out good thing he didn't win he would of relapsed most likely
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  6. 07-15-18 02:58 PM #6
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    People are very weak and sensitive. It's the same people that talk about playing baseball the right way.
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  7. 07-15-18 02:59 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    A nitroll, not a slowroll.

    The whole final table Cynn tanked whenever facing a big bet. Add in that he was tired and it's understandable. It should have been an auto-call, but he wasn't malicious about tanking.
    IDK nitroll would have been 30 seconds

    He took over 3 minutes

    I don't think it was a malicious slowroll but he knew he wasn't folding in the 1st 15 seconds
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  8. 07-15-18 03:02 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowilly View Post
    IDK nitroll would have been 30 seconds

    He took over 3 minutes

    I don't think it was a malicious slowroll but he knew he wasn't folding in the 1st 15 seconds
    I heard it was only about a minute but after watching the video it was probably too long. In defense of cynn if he's wrong he's going to lose to a guy that he should beat.
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  9. 07-15-18 03:03 PM #9
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    I just ended watching this a few minutes ago.

    Did Miles accuse him of slow rolling?

    I thought that's what I overheard him whisper to him.
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  10. 07-15-18 03:05 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by antifoil View Post
    People are very weak and sensitive. It's the same people that talk about playing baseball the right way.
    LOL

    Says the guy with advanced TDS (Trump derangement syndrome)
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  11. 07-15-18 03:06 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I just ended watching this a few minutes ago.

    Did Miles accuse him of slow rolling?

    I thought that's what I overheard him whisper to him.
    Yeah he seemed annoyed. I hated the bet he basically had the nut 2 pair and was only getting called if he was beat. Donkeys love to overplay good hands though so I'm not surprised.
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  12. 07-15-18 03:06 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I just ended watching this a few minutes ago.

    Did Miles accuse him of slow rolling?

    I thought that's what I overheard him whisper to him.
    He did and although not in his face about it he was serious

    At 6:24 he said "You're slowrolling me"

    Then after that it isn't shown in the video but Cynn tried to apologize again and Miles didn't seem to want any part of it
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  13. 07-15-18 03:09 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    Yeah he seemed annoyed. I hated the bet he basically had the nut 2 pair and was only getting called if he was beat. Donkeys love to overplay good hands though so I'm not surprised.
    What else should he do though? Check fold? Might as well get him off the flush draw, a better 8, or maybe even 99 if Cynn had those hands.
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  14. 07-15-18 03:11 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    Yeah he seemed annoyed. I hated the bet he basically had the nut 2 pair and was only getting called if he was beat. Donkeys love to overplay good hands though so I'm not surprised.
    Did anything transpire afterwards though? I'm just wondering if he cussed him out on twitter or anything.
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  15. 07-15-18 03:15 PM #15
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    He literally just posted this:

    https://twitter.com/Storm253/status/1018588464776802305
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  16. 07-15-18 03:16 PM #16
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    A8 of hearts, unlikely IMo, all other a8 are about impossible

    99 about only hand he could have folded against that bet the way the action came out.
    Last edited by thetrinity; 07-15-18 at 03:19 PM. Reason: Hearts not diamonds, nut flush draw on flop
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  17. 07-15-18 03:16 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Did anything transpire afterwards though? I'm just wondering if he cussed him out on twitter or anything.
    Yeah looks like just a few minutes ago he apologized for telling Cynn he slowrolled him
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  18. 07-15-18 03:16 PM #18
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    I know he was tired at all but it's literally a slow roll because he's never folding there. In his heart of hearts he may have thought he was thinking about the hand, but in the end there is 0% chance he's folding therefore after a minute or so it's a slow roll
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  19. 07-15-18 03:18 PM #19
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    Obviously not a slowroll as that requires an intent.
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  20. 07-15-18 03:18 PM #20
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    they played a grueling heads up match with so many ups and downs the chip lead changed hands so many times, fatigue was obviously a factor but there was no reason for cynn to take that long calling the final all in
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  21. 07-15-18 03:19 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    A8 of diamonds, unlikely IMo, all other a8 are about impossible

    99 about only hand he could have folded against that bet the way the action came out.
    A8 of diamonds wasn't possible since 8d was the turn.

    That 8 simply put Miles in a bad spot, not sure how else he was supposed to play it from there
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  22. 07-15-18 03:19 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by thechaoz View Post
    I know he was tired at all but it's literally a slow roll because he's never folding there. It is heart of hearts he may have thought he was thinking about the hand, but in the end there is 0% chance he's folding therefore after a minute or so it's a slow roll
    Easy for you to say but after playing for 20 hours with that on the line you're entitled to think it through to be sure. He likely had it beat and was going to ultimately fold, but he also didn't have the nuts.
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  23. 07-15-18 03:20 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by thechaoz View Post
    I know he was tired at all but it's literally a slow roll because he's never folding there. In his heart of hearts he may have thought he was thinking about the hand, but in the end there is 0% chance he's folding therefore after a minute or so it's a slow roll
    That's my take on it

    I don't think you have to be intent on pissing someone off for it to be a slowroll
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  24. 07-15-18 03:21 PM #24
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    Miles just ended the debate

    The real question is how long until he's broke I give it 6 months
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    It’s a slow roll

    heads up, no way he was folding
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  26. 07-15-18 03:31 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    Miles just ended the debate

    The real question is how long until he's broke I give it 6 months
    Meh I think a lot of that has to do with the big stage of it all and the attention he has now

    If that was done for the same amount of money but anonymously or online there would be no retraction
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  27. 07-15-18 03:37 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Obviously not a slowroll as that requires an intent.
    It is when you're never folding.

    Let's call it a non malicious slow roll
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  28. 07-15-18 03:43 PM #28
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    Guy a verbal idiot

    Social outcast

    If he was smart 80% of that money would be tied up for the next 20 years where he can’t touch it and he gets older and mature
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowilly View Post
    Meh I think a lot of that has to do with the big stage of it all and the attention he has now

    If that was done for the same amount of money but anonymously or online there would be no retraction
    Fair enough but if that wasn't to win the world series it would have taken 30 seconds to call max
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  30. 07-15-18 03:45 PM #30
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    Length of time has nothing to do with it.

    A nitroll is tanking with a really strong hand in an "obvious" call spot because you think your opponent has an even better hand. A slowroll is tanking with a really strong hand in an "obvious" call spot because you think your opponent has a worse hand and you want to irritate him.

    Quote Originally Posted by dlowilly View Post
    IDK nitroll would have been 30 seconds

    He took over 3 minutes

    I don't think it was a malicious slowroll but he knew he wasn't folding in the 1st 15 seconds
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  31. 07-15-18 03:49 PM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    Fair enough but if that wasn't to win the world series it would have taken 30 seconds to call max
    No but that’s what I’m saying

    if everything else was equal but they were anonymous so no endorsements, interviews, twitter followers, or previous quoted statements of church membership I don’t think there would be a retraction
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  32. 07-15-18 03:50 PM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Length of time has nothing to do with it.

    A nitroll is tanking with a really strong hand in an "obvious" call spot because you think your opponent has an even better hand. A slowroll is tanking with a really strong hand in an "obvious" call spot because you think your opponent has a worse hand and you want to irritate him.
    This.

    Although I'd still cut a little more slack given the situation after 10 hours in the biggest situation.
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  33. 07-15-18 03:52 PM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Length of time has nothing to do with it.

    A nitroll is tanking with a really strong hand in an "obvious" call spot because you think your opponent has an even better hand. A slowroll is tanking with a really strong hand in an "obvious" call spot because you think your opponent has a worse hand and you want to irritate him.
    Yeah I agree with a lot of that and I think it was somewhere in between

    can’t say Cynn is a nit and he can think about it all he wants he was never folding
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  34. 07-15-18 03:53 PM #34
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    Someone posted this on twitter. Miles coming across like a big douche.

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  35. 07-15-18 04:09 PM #35
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    Annoying bitch at the end making him hold up the bracelet.
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