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    SEAHAWKHARRY
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    I took Croatia +1200 back a few weeks ago June 29th ok so it's a decent bet 50 for 600 I'm small time so it's a good one if it hits. So anyway
    1.Do I even hedge as if Croatia advances no Guarentee France loses
    2. Hedge on England to advance ?
    Again no Guarantee Croatia will advance and beat france.
    Now I am hearing and saw for myself that Croatia is a bit winded and may not have what it takes to finish And that England has some depth and have a bit more Stamina
    Please respond with some advice thanks
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    Harry watch the game. Good night

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    Harry, England wins in it all.
    From that perspective, I think hedging is a good idea

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    No time to hedge sit and watch your
    future bet,as it’s looking good.

    if you lose you lose $50 big deal.

    If they advance then come back with the same thread.

    Also your personal situation has to come
    into play,if you’re totally barreled in and haven’t
    fed the kids in the last few days then you may
    want to bet $155 Eng to qualify.

    If England wins you profit $50
    If Croatia wins your 12 to 1 future
    is now down to 3-1.

    Id sooner let the kids go another day
    or two without eating.

    You May also want to consider completely
    abandoning the hedging idea and bet
    Croatia tomorrow.. go for the filet mignon.
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    You're not really in a position to hedge. You could bet 390 on France at -150 and 186 on England at +250 but that would mean investing a total of 626, (including the 50 you've already bet on Croatia), to guarantee a return of 650. If you're small-time to the point that 650 is a big result then i'm not sure finding another 576 to bet is a good option for you. (No offence is intended. I'm just going by the math). If your play was to win 24 on a 50 bet you could pretty much have achieved it by betting Croatia to advance past Russia at -175. As it is you've bet on Croatia to advance past both Denmark and Russia so you've free-rolled yourself on the Denmark game. I think you're in a tough spot because I don't like Croatia's chances against either of the remaining teams they'll have to beat. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

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    $50 on England -.5 (pick). $50 over .5,1 goals for the game for Croatia (if your book offers) would be a decent play for you. But I'm honestly betting on a 0-0 game and would let your future ride and do something similar to what I just said if they played France

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    300 on England to qualify. If Croatia wins 300 on France in the finals . Your futures bet is dead. Do the right move here. No hedge, just consider your Croatia future as your break even if both bets were to lose. But that’s not going to happen, Croatia is not going to be represented as the World Cup champion lets be real.
    Last edited by goduke; 07-11-18 at 04:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Masters View Post
    No time to hedge sit and watch your
    future bet,as it’s looking good.

    if you lose you lose $50 big deal.

    If they advance then come back with the same thread.

    Also your personal situation has to come
    into play,if you’re totally barreled in and haven’t
    fed the kids in the last few days then you may
    want to bet $155 Eng to qualify.

    If England wins you profit $50
    If Croatia wins your 12 to 1 future
    is now down to 3-1.

    Id sooner let the kids go another day
    or two without eating.

    You May also want to consider completely
    abandoning the hedging idea and bet
    Croatia tomorrow.. go for the filet mignon.
    No nothing like that I sports bet as entertainment I have a full time job as a Electrician .I do ok the gambling is just something to add to my enjoyment of sports.

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    Since harry has turned pro has he lost

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    Books love guys like Harry

    Never win a futures bet, then hedge at the first chance he gets and pisses away all of his value

    If you had put $50 on them to advance, win round of 16, and round of 8, double up each time...probably would've been 6 to 1. You could've had a 12 to 1 just on this game alone had you done it that way

    Instead you are now looking at 3 to 1 if u hedge both these

    Clown show

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    My inside sources says England wins by atleast 2 GOALS

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    Books love guys like Harry

    Never win a futures bet, then hedge at the first chance he gets and pisses away all of his value

    If you had put $50 on them to advance, win round of 16, and round of 8, double up each time...probably would've been 6 to 1. You could've had a 12 to 1 just on this game alone had you done it that way

    Instead you are now looking at 3 to 1 if u hedge both these

    Clown show

    Learn something
    Have been winning in WC play actually bet against Brazil argentinia have ridden England Croatia every round as well so again Rudy stop being a ASS

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAHAWKHARRY View Post
    Have been winning in WC play actually bet against Brazil argentinia have ridden England Croatia every round as well so again Rudy stop being a ASS
    That's the problem with you

    You can't take constructive criticism, only $100

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    Put 155 on England to advance have funny feeling my future ends here. Taking my winnings from Kershaw and Dodger win Monday ..had a post on that in Diggitys thread. So I'm doing well. Playing on Books money now 4 figure account started with 100 Last NFL Season

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    Books love guys like Harry

    Never win a futures bet, then hedge at the first chance he gets and pisses away all of his value

    If you had put $50 on them to advance, win round of 16, and round of 8, double up each time...probably would've been 6 to 1. You could've had a 12 to 1 just on this game alone had you done it that way

    Instead you are now looking at 3 to 1 if u hedge both these

    Clown show

    Learn something
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    That's the problem with you

    You can't take constructive criticism, only $100
    Haha Rudy you are a True Keyboard warrior ..any chance you coming to Vegas pal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAHAWKHARRY View Post
    Haha Rudy you are a True Keyboard warrior ..any chance you coming to Vegas pal.
    What?

    I didn't help you today, but for the next 10-60 years ur alive I'll have saved you thousands

    Maybe just thank me?

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    You didn't win anything yet. Just leave it and hedge if Croatia is 1-0 in the final

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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    Exactly
    Dawgy I wonder if I can write this off taxes for helping the mentally challenged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    Dawgy I wonder if I can write this off taxes for helping the mentally challenged?
    Let’s look into it Rudy
    Some guys just refuse to learn

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    What?

    I didn't help you today, but for the next 10-60 years ur alive I'll have saved you thousands

    Maybe just thank me?
    Yes Rudy I want to thank you in Vegas pal..buy ya a few rounds you know with that hundred. No really let's hook up so you can teach me a thing or two. Looking forward to it.
    I am up 450 in world cup play
    I tossed 155 on England to advance
    If Croatia wins I'll hedge out still up
    Just not with all value ..which I understand but I like being positive so coming out ahead is good for me.
    I unlike a lot here don't blow it all on wagers I'm a 20$- 50 a play guy

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    good to see you have enough to pay philly back

    i know if someone had to fukkin give me $100, id play every poker tourney, etc etc to make sure i send 4k points back

    to each their own

    keep on winning bro
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    Harry I’m in exact same position. No value hedging. Croatia is the much better team, with a handful of elite players; albeit not fresh at all. England has only 1 elite player but probably has better legs at this point.

    Just count on the adrenaline and ride Croatia.

    Win or lose, next game is when you hedge on France. France much better than England and France peaking at the exact right time.

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    Rudy in rare form today. Both here & in the saloon

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    good to see you have enough to pay philly back

    i know if someone had to fukkin give me $100, id play every poker tourney, etc etc to make sure i send 4k points back

    to each their own

    keep on winning bro
    You really don't know the story.
    No one had to do shit
    I am a working family man
    I never asked for crap
    Me and philly go back a ways on here
    And letting this story drag on has been laughs . So keep throwing it out there it definitely needed legs. Rudy.

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    Rudy give us some futures so that we can see how it's done

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    "Small time" or not, you can't hedge a $50 bet to win $600. I don't see Croatia winning in regulation today nor getting by France if they somehow do or advance in ET...but, at that stake you may as well let it ride and hope for something crazy.

    If your desperate, otherwise, maybe put like $100 on England to win the Cup...they were like 11/4 (2.75) last time I saw before yesterday's match. $100 bet will return small profit between the two bets and you are guaranteed a rooting interest for Final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Rudy give us some futures so that we can see how it's done
    jake its really common sense

    bet NO FUTURES

    EXCEPT FOR long shots you think have a chance in MLB or NBA that will spend money at the trade deadline

    PERIOD

    you are basically flushing money away with futures otherwise

    OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    Rudy in rare form today. Both here & in the saloon
    i am here to help

    why am i always a bad guy?


    MAIN STREAM media POSTERS spreading fake news

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    Rudy-make America great again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    i am here to help

    why am i always a bad guy?


    MAIN STREAM media POSTERS spreading fake news
    Rudy regardless of your comments more times than not I find myself laughing at your post. Even when about me. Gotta respect that

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    if Croatia goes to final will be nowhere near a pick em

    You will end up having to lay heavy juice with France not sure you might end up +50$ tops if you're lucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAHAWKHARRY View Post
    I took Croatia +1200 back a few weeks ago June 29th ok so it's a decent bet 50 for 600 I'm small time so it's a good one if it hits. So anyway
    1.Do I even hedge as if Croatia advances no Guarentee France loses
    2. Hedge on England to advance ?
    Again no Guarantee Croatia will advance and beat france.
    Now I am hearing and saw for myself that Croatia is a bit winded and may not have what it takes to finish And that England has some depth and have a bit more Stamina
    Please respond with some advice thanks
    Trolls welcome ..
    Harry
    Did the same with 48 pts at +1200. Let's cash this!!!

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    Let it ride and enjoy the action harry! That what I’m doing w my England future, if they win here maybe I’ll hedge to get my money back on France but rather just have the rooting interest on a side. Hedging kills the value of a good play, let it ride and enjoy!!

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    Harold whatever you do
    Dont let the book fuk u

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