1. 06-26-18 07:45 AM #1
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    OKC...3 MVPs, no title...

    Worse choke ever over an era??

    Some MLB dynasties have had multiple HOFers...Cubs of 60s come to mind w Santo, Banks, Williams, Jenkins...

    Vikings football have had 6 plus HOFers on the field at a time and nothing to show....
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  2. 06-26-18 07:49 AM #2
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    interesting. can you name the 6 viking hall of famers?
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  3. 06-26-18 07:51 AM #3
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    Durant ever a mvp?

    Harden and Westbrook just ball hogs so you cannot win
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  4. 06-26-18 07:53 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Durant ever a mvp?

    yes

    common JJ
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  5. 06-26-18 07:54 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Worse choke ever over an era??

    Some MLB dynasties have had multiple HOFers...Cubs of 60s come to mind w Santo, Banks, Williams, Jenkins...

    Vikings football have had 6 plus HOFers on the field at a time and nothing to show....
    Durant has 2 titles
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  6. 06-26-18 08:00 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Durant has 2 titles
    He does?
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  7. 06-26-18 08:06 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Durant has 2 titles
    Not with OKC....read the thread title
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    westbrook will never win a title, he's a stat stuffer a bad team basketball player
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  9. 06-26-18 08:17 AM #9
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    Cleve win 8-0 last 2 years if Durant did not play
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Cleve win 8-0 last 2 years if Durant did not play
    we got a real max mercy over here


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  11. 06-26-18 08:53 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Worse choke ever over an era??

    Some MLB dynasties have had multiple HOFers...Cubs of 60s come to mind w Santo, Banks, Williams, Jenkins...

    Vikings football have had 6 plus HOFers on the field at a time and nothing to show....
    OKC had more talent then GSW- Westbrook/Durant/harden — curry/klay/green - People still don’t think coaching and management matters?
    JJ enough with the nonsense man - why didn’t cavs go 8-0 in 2015 and 2016? Child please
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  12. 06-26-18 10:42 AM #12
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    The MVP is just being passed around by the NBA to guys with different shoe company deals to grow the game.

    Nike, under armor, jordan brand, adidas
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    Quote Originally Posted by ans61201 View Post
    The MVP is just being passed around by the NBA to guys with different shoe company deals to grow the game.

    Nike, under armor, jordan brand, adidas

    yes James should win every year
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  14. 06-26-18 10:46 AM #14
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    MVP is nothing more then a offensive numbers awards - no defense needed
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  15. 06-26-18 03:26 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    interesting. can you name the 6 viking hall of famers?
    Eller
    Page
    Krause
    Tarkenton
    Yary
    Tinglehoff
    Coached by Grant

    Later teams had multiple as well

    Doleman
    Randle
    Carter
    Moss
    McDaniel
    Morton Anderson/ Gary Anderson
    Gary Zimmermann mixed in there late 80s/early 90s pre Moss era, Steve Hutchenson post Moss
    AP of course

    QB'd by:
    Favre/ Moon/ Cunningham (assuming he gets a bust soon)

    Nothing to show for it....cant think of another franchise in NFL with that failure. Buffalo w Kelly, Thomas, Reed, Smith, Levy would be about it, but that's about it.....

    Dolphins w Marino never had 4 or more I don't think.

    NHL hasn't really had any dynasties that failed like OKC has in NBA
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  16. 06-26-18 03:43 PM #16
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    Harden was not the same player when he was with okc.

    Still a horrible move to trade him but I don't think you can say the players underachieved. The front office screwed them over.
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    Maybe so but that squad thru 2011 was stacked...

    Should have had a better run
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  18. 06-26-18 04:06 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    Not with OKC....read the thread title
    I read it they werent the best team so they didnt win
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  19. 06-26-18 04:18 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by krk1030 View Post
    Harden was not the same player when he was with okc.

    Still a horrible move to trade him but I don't think you can say the players underachieved. The front office screwed them over.
    Harden is nothing more then a regular season champ- he’s one of the reason Houston didn’t win this year vs GSW - and there’s no way harden can put up those numbers being the 3rd option in OKC behind Durant/Westbrook
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  20. 06-26-18 04:28 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Maybe so but that squad thru 2011 was stacked...

    Should have had a better run
    Guys all in their early 20's with Scott Brooks as their coach made it to the Finals and lost to the Heat....think their run was just fine.
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  21. 06-26-18 04:34 PM #21
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    Harden is a different player compared to his OKC days, but his lack of defense makes it hard to put him high.
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  22. 06-26-18 04:37 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgetit20 View Post
    Harden is a different player compared to his OKC days, but his lack of defense makes it hard to put him high.
    What’s so different? The guy no show 2012 Finals ? No show every big playoff games ? It was chris Paul that won Houston games 4 and 5 vs GSW
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  23. 06-28-18 03:42 PM #23
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    So you believe Harden didn't try this playoff?
    People just brings up past too much.
    Harden couldn't beat KD and Curry by himself just as it was difficult for Curry and Klay to beat LeBron and Kyrie by themselves.
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  24. 06-29-18 05:52 PM #24
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    I got all of my pain and suffering out of the way two years ago when Durant left.

    OKC was on the verge of winning a title and Durant leaving slammed the door shut and effectively ruined the league guaranteeing the Warriors would won for the foreseeable future.

    OKC could have one a title if they didn’t have huge injuries.

    One year Westbrook misses the playoffs and another year KD got injured and missed he playoffs. I think they could have won the year Westbrook got hurt.

    The did something that will never be done again and couldn’t win it. This makes me feel like they’ll never win a title. Three straight MVPs and nothing. WTF
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  25. 06-29-18 06:21 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDofBA View Post
    I got all of my pain and suffering out of the way two years ago when Durant left.

    OKC was on the verge of winning a title and Durant leaving slammed the door shut and effectively ruined the league guaranteeing the Warriors would won for the foreseeable future.

    OKC could have one a title if they didn’t have huge injuries.

    One year Westbrook misses the playoffs and another year KD got injured and missed he playoffs. I think they could have won the year Westbrook got hurt.

    The did something that will never be done again and couldn’t win it. This makes me feel like they’ll never win a title. Three straight MVPs and nothing. WTF
    Would never win in OKC- child please -
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  26. 06-29-18 06:26 PM #26
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    Since when did the Vikings ever have six MVPs in the 1998 season I assume you're talking about.
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