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    Good luck!!

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    Atlantic City will comeback stronger... good news for gamblers

    healthy competition

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    It will hurt Vegas as far as the big events

    People from East are not going to go period

    If you did again your a real idiot

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    So have we confirmed what the juice looks like there?

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    Still unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by hubie69 View Post
    So have we confirmed what the juice looks like there?

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    Saw a live video tweet. Place is packed with degenerates. In the past, I would've thought this was so cool but with all of the options to bet now, it doesn't seem as appealing. Place looks dumpy. They should've renovated. Looks like a 70's style OTB. Almost looks pathetic. These people look like a bunch of seagulls on the Jersey Shore beach looking for food out of a dumpster. I live a little over an hour away from there. Have no interest in it.

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    looks like 20 cent lines??

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    JJ: You move to Pennsylvania and now you get screwed

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    Willy??

    I play offshore

    Cannot compete with low juice and unreal software and betting options

    They had 20 year head start

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Willy??

    I play offshore

    Cannot compete with low juice and unreal software and betting options

    They had 20 year head start
    Well I guess these people that I saw aren't as hardcore as I thought. Place looks packed like sardines. Vegas gets screwed is correct.

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    Do you guys mean kfc?

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    ok who faded that guy in the news video saying he was betting with his wallet not heart taking colorado today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    game over

    5 Dimes
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    so why do you think it's over for these guys?

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    snider offshore going to boom

    It is a much better product

    10x higher limits
    no taxes
    low juice
    tons of bet options
    better software

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    Do we see further laws and possible enforceable restrictions against offshore?

    US and it's states need to protect their interests. It becomes a trade and money issue for sure. It always has been, the US hates losing those dollars, but now congressmen may be a little more inclined to act and protect their industries.

    Now that they can have the industry of gambling.

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    KVB Very hard because of crypto currency

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    ok i get it....i was confused by "game over"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    KVB Very hard because of crypto currency
    Major exchanges being forced to report, crypto was never really very "anonymous" as you needed to be attached to the ACH system anyway.

    Things are changing but under the guise and cover of KYC, the US may seek their taxes.

    I think they may have more motivation now that the US has more competing business, outside of Vegas.

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    Well then they go back to the Old Fashion Way, Money Grams and ** just with different names

    Who knows they always seem to find a way

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Well then they go back to the Old Fashion Way, Money Grams and ** just with different names

    Who knows they always seem to find a way


    I remember sending M G's or W U to "Rocco" then "Salvador" then "Miguel" to get WSEX money posted.

    Good Times.

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    Whatever happens happens

    I’ll take upwards of 5 to 10 years for 20 states to have it anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Whatever happens happens

    I’ll take upwards of 5 to 10 years for 20 states to have it anyway
    Maybe, but those States that were ready for it were certainly ready for it, already in action.

    But we also see the vig.

    Bottom line is that these are financial markets and now you can have runners in different states. This will increase liquidity to a certain degree and could keep some big, market moving money around.

    If that happens inefficiencies will get stamped out and everyone will be forced into the same pricing. The model the States have will start to fail simply by other states under cutting them.

    Like you said, Vegas will get hurt at big events and they may act to make up for it.

    Will be interesting but I think we have a handle on what's going on here.

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    theyre gonna get ready fast after seeing how it does in NJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Maybe, but those States that were ready for it were certainly ready for it, already in action.

    But we also see the vig.



    Bottom line is that these are financial markets and now you can have runners in different states. This will increase liquidity to a certain degree and could keep some big, market moving money around.

    If that happens inefficiencies will get stamped out and everyone will be forced into the same pricing. The model the States have will start to fail simply by other states under cutting them.

    Like you said, Vegas will get hurt at big events and they may act to make up for it.

    Will be interesting but I think we have a handle on what's going on here.

    Do you realize runners are not allowed any longer in Vegas Sportsbooks?? They get thrown out very quick

    These days are gone and easy to find them..max bettors betting slow numbers

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    Stu lost $5000 today on the White Sox...score one for Amir and Brandon Lang

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Do you realize runners are not allowed any longer in Vegas Sportsbooks?? They get thrown out very quick

    These days are gone and easy to find them..max bettors betting slow numbers
    same thing offshore

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Do you realize runners are not allowed any longer in Vegas Sportsbooks?? They get thrown out very quick

    These days are gone and easy to find them..max bettors betting slow numbers
    This is wrong. There are plenty of runners under the radar.

    Because of just that, they stay under the radar.

    The same thing holds true for offshore.

    You just have to know when not to coordinate bets and hit anyone harder than necessary within a small time frame.


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    If they’re tiny better as a couple hundred a game they don’t care but no max bettors are allowed to sit in the sports book and just bet week lines nowhere 1000% correct. All the runners are unemployed

    Books don’t care about the little guy
    All the managers know who they are also and some have already gotten banned from the property meaning not even allowed in the casino they don’t play around

    They actually can get arrested if your banned Although most just an allowed in the sports book

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    This is wrong. There are plenty of runners under the radar.

    Because of just that, they stay under the radar.

    The same thing holds true for offshore.

    You just have to know when not to coordinate bets and hit anyone harder than necessary within a small time frame.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pattymayo View Post
    I’ll be at monmouth Park Saturday, very excited
    it'll be elbow to elbow in there on a saturday. you will try to get in line to bet and you'll move an inch every 10 minutes. your game will go off before you can get it in, so now you have to wait for the 4 o'clockers and bet a game you do not like. you will say i cannot believe i came here to do this, i may as well go out in the apron and bet live horses and mutter i should have stayed home to bet my games like a normal person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unusialsusp5 View Post
    it'll be elbow to elbow in there on a saturday. you will try to get in line to bet and you'll move an inch every 10 minutes. your game will go off before you can get it in, so now you have to wait for the 4 o'clockers and bet a game you do not like. you will say i cannot believe i came here to do this, i may as well go out in the apron and bet live horses and mutter i should have stayed home to bet my games like a normal person.
    nobody was even at Monmouth today, I think when they opened 45 guys

    lol nobody bets bases

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    nobody was even at Monmouth today, I think when they opened 45 guys

    lol nobody bets bases
    no horses running and i do not think they open just for otb tracks. if they do they would only get about 30 people anyway. saturday will be much different as they have live racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    If they’re tiny better as a couple hundred a game they don’t care but no max bettors are allowed to sit in the sports book and just bet week lines nowhere 1000% correct. All the runners are unemployed

    Books don’t care about the little guy
    All the managers know who they are also and some have already gotten banned from the property meaning not even allowed in the casino they don’t play around

    They actually can get arrested if your banned Although most just an allowed in the sports book
    Will Hill such small limits, they are worthless but best prices...lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Will Hill such small limits, they are worthless but best prices...lol.
    How small of limits does William Hill have? Is this sports book really that bad?

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