Originally Posted by
Goat Milk
Lone Gambler -- You'll be bringing up Lebron when you're 80 years old. Guarantee it.
Dr. J was great.
Watched every era of basketball. You can still watch full games (a ton of them) online from that era and even before.
Baylor might be better than Dr. J tbh. Baylor was unreal for those that haven't seen him play. He can easily dominate in today's NBA. Would prolly be a top 3-4 player in the league.
Dr. J still had some flaws in his game though.
Yeah he's a revolutionary player, but so was Jordan, and there are no flaws in Jordan's game... Jordan's prime is going back 20 years. So that's saying something.
Is Dr. J a top 5 player? No chance. Top 20 for sure. I would say D Wade was a better player than Dr. J. Dr. J was never the best player in the world at any point in his career. He was always a top 5ish player. Wade was the best player in the world arguably after Bryant for a 3 year period. When Lebron was in Peyton Manning mode. Great reg season stats, fold up time in the playoffs.
We know Wade was also robbed by Lebron of a ring in 2010 when he averaged 29 in the finals and Lebron averaged 17. So Wade was arguably better that year as well. Who was better in the league? Only Bryant perhaps.
That's how I measure greatness. Against the guys in their era. Then you take the best guys from every era and think about who belongs where on the list.
1. Jordan
2. Bryant
3. Lebron (Lebron will be 1/2 when he retires probably. Still more work to do).
4. Magic
5. Not sure.
There's a lot who can go in 5. You got Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Hakeem, Bird, etc.
See think about it.
Hakeem was the 2nd best player in the world for many, many years to Jordan.
Bird was the 2nd best player for many years to Magic imo.
Bryant was the best player in the world for damn near a decade...
If you're the best player in the world for a stretch of time, you deserve to be in the conversation of the greats.