[DrunkHorseplayer]

I haven't been offshore in awhile (working on it). Can somebody tell me what KYC (I keep seeing people post it) stands for? Is that related to fried chicken? I Keep trying to get back offshore, but stuff keeps coming up

I'm assuming it has to do with confirming your identity. I sent some stuff in to Bookmaker, but it wasn't good enough because it wasn't in color. I said the hell with it and stayed with my local. I'll figure it out eventually.

I got it now. I'm an idiot. Forgot about Google. I still don't know why it has to be in color. What's next, am I gonna have to send in a DNA sample? I understand their point of view though, I guess. I just don't have a color scanner. I guess I'll just have to go to Staples.

KYC stands for Know Your Customer and it's ostensibly a way to confirm the customer's identity but in reality is a way for the slimeballs to avoid or delay payment, as you have obviously found out.

[vividjohn45]

I got a email from draftkings today. And they said they are ready to go on sports betting. Offshore poker will still have the large player pools. This won't affect those.

[eidolon]

So is online poker going to explode again?
or do they need a Moneymaker winner situation to get the ball rolling?

[ABEHONEST]

All the small books will be gone of course

The top seven are going to be outstanding

What about my shaky $1500 investment in a SBR-rated C+ Book? Mine, is the one [more than one of course] that proclaim's " We have bettor's rolling that 18-X roll ":all the time."
There are 2 or 3 catches they will have waiting for you; no-point buying on free-money; no parlays on free-money; limits on free-money play;higher juice than average.

I do believe those above straps are correct. Can member anyone add another "catch," if you go with a high roll Book offering 200% "free-money?"
* Hopefully, SBR, will keep a close watch on these "200%er's?"

[Sam Odom]

jjgold gone off the deep end

[jjgold]

You’re safe for a while because most states might never see sports betting or at least for 10 years manny are opposed to it

It’s basically a 5 state thing

What about my shaky $1500 investment in a SBR-rated C+ Book? Mine, is the one [more than one of course] that proclaim's " We have bettor's rolling that 18-X roll ":all the time."
There are 2 or 3 catches they will have waiting for you; no-point buying on free-money; no parlays on free-money; limits on free-money play;higher juice than average.

I do believe those above straps are correct. Can member anyone add another "catch," if you go with a high roll Book offering 200% "free-money?"
* Hopefully, SBR, will keep a close watch on these "200%er's?"

[Plaza23]

This ^^^^

Casual gambler isn’t going to care if he’s paying 5 cents more on a game.

I’m sure a mobile app is in place as well. This was as good as gold as soon as The NFL went to Vegas.

Laughable to think off shore has been planning for this. 5Dimes probably Sending Tony to Customer Service seminars as we speak.

Tony may have have taken over the JJ Gold account today given what JJ's been posting. I understand trying to silence any negative vibes about off-shores, bc some pay alot of $$$$ to SBR to do precisely that. But this is nothing more than PR. It's like trying to stop a run on a bank. Off-shores don't want everyone to pull their money out thinking they are going to be playing in the US next week.

[hawkeye 16]

KYC stands for Know Your Customer and it's ostensibly a way to confirm the customer's identity but in reality is a way for the slimeballs to avoid or delay payment, as you have obviously found out.

To be clear, I have never had problems with Bookmaker. I just tried to update my info because I moved and my info was different than what was listed on my account. I think I tried to change my email too (I couldn't remember my password to the old one). I deposited a couple times via P2P that went through and lost (fairly small), then I thought I better confirm my new info in case I won. I don't blame them for protecting themselves from scammers, I just wish it wasn't so hard. I sent them a copy of my ID. it was just in black and white. Wasn't even trying to request a payout. I don't even have any money in there. I'm sure they would have paid, and I'm sure they are a solid book.

[Microphone]

Once these idiotic integrity fees and any other bloated taxes and fees are added in, you'll be looking up to -115 lines. That's great for the casual bettor, for me that plays every day, I'll take the -105 and the "hassle" of dealing with BTC.

And remember this is your states and government diving into this pool. Many will have their hands out waiting for their cut,with a bunch of controversy. Offshore is safe for many years.

[slambam]

There's literally no reason people would start using an offshore after this.

[themike78]

There's literally no reason people would start using an offshore after this.

It's only going to be legal in a couple states. Most states will not legalize it. Its like recreational marijuana laws. Not every state will legalize it. Offshore will still be huge.

[TheGuesser]

With legalization states will have to open portals again for players to fund & withdraw easily from accounts.

You just know offshore books will find a way to capitalize from this.

Not so sure about that, unfortunately. Neteller has been back in the US to fund legal US horse betting firms for a few years, and paypal allows that also, but it has not translated to Offshore Sportsbook processing, and doubt it will here. Would love to be wrong.

[nyplayer33]

Offshore is off limits....this is about each state having sports betting..not money to pinnacle

[jjgold]

It's only going to be legal in a couple states. Most states will not legalize it. Its like recreational marijuana laws. Not every state will legalize it. Offshore will still be huge.

Thread over

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Monmouth Park Taking Wagers in 2 weeks. Ocean Club & Hard Rock by end of August.

“At Monmouth Park, which is partnering with British betting giant William Hill, basked in Las Vegas in the United State, you will be able to wager on any games you can bet on in Las Vegas, from MLB and the NBA, to the NFL, NHL, NCAA games and European soccer”

Let’s see how easy it will be for US players to send money off shore now.

Coach call me. I can get you in over at TopGolf

Yeah thread over

[jjgold]

William Hill is terrible, all they do is boot winners in Vegas

No serious player can afford to play legal books

Who is going to drive to Monmouth??????

lol so far from populated areas ...yeh ok I am going to waste $20 round trip to make $50 bet

Place will be empty except football season a few days a week

[USCPHILLYGUY]

You’re right coach. This was a terrible idea. Books will be empty by Halloween.

[captrobey]

The nice think about going to a B & M to do it is getting your money on the spot And if my wife is playing slots i am not as much into that would be nice to just sit there with a drink and watch a game. No jumping through hoops too get your cash is nice.

Offshore will have the bonuses though. And i will not have to drive anywhere to place my bets . So as long as they keep doing bonuses i will keep doing offshore. One thing i noticed in Vegas at least the places i went is when you sit at a slot machine or BJ table you get the comp drinks. But they do not give them at the Sportsbetting area . Wonder why that is.

[jts1207]

JJ on tilt. Going to lose his Pizza hut gift card Tony sends him every month when biz slows lol.

This will hurt offshore no doubt. Government will start shutting down sites to keep money in house. Will take awhile but will happen....

[cincinnatikid513]

jj u can always move down to fla got the perfect job for you night time draw bridge operator not gonna get any boats coming middle of the night u get paid do nothing

[jjgold]

A lot of you guys are misinformed this is not going to be computer betting from your home New Jersey already said walk up business only for a while which means years good luck with that

Also Las Vegas does not have computer betting only apps Which is a big difference from web-based software


This is a major win for the top off shore places, good luck with fees income tax etc. it’s a nice thing to have but it will not be in efficient way to gamble

[shadymcgrady]

There will be a mobile app or interface for nj betting

8% tax on wins

12% tax on wins placed online

Wasn't fully aware how good I had it with local agents until now

[jjgold]

There will be a mobile app or interface for nj betting

8% tax on wins

12% tax on wins placed online

Wasn't fully aware how good I had it with local agents until now

Monmouth Park head said this AM walk up only

Who cares anyway William Hill APP is fukkin terrible, logs you out instantly once you do something else on your phone

APPS ARE NOT WEB BASED SOFTWARE

Good luck going traveling to deposit and withdraw

Many of you are confusing this with offshore computer betting or logging on with your web browsers phones or computers where the software is unreal

IT WILL NOT BE THAT

[A Quant]

Monmouth Park head said this AM walk up only

Who cares anyway William Hill APP is fukkin terrible, logs you out instantly once you do something else on your phone

APPS ARE NOT WEB BASED SOFTWARE

Good luck going traveling to deposit and withdraw

Many of you are confusing this with offshore computer betting or logging on with your web browsers phones or computers where the software is unreal

IT WILL NOT BE THAT

You are trying way too hard to sell this idea of yours that offshore is not going to get crushed. But hey, ya gotta do what ya gotta do to protect your corner of the globe.

[A Quant]

JJ on tilt. Going to lose his Pizza hut gift card Tony sends him every month when biz slows lol.

This will hurt offshore no doubt. Government will start shutting down sites to keep money in house. Will take awhile but will happen....

This guy is going on all-in on this being good for the off shores. He's Blockbuster Video pretending that Netflix is no risk to him.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Have had zero issues with 10 second deposits & 15 minute withdraws on PokerStarsNJ so I’m sure they will do the same. Not sure where shady got his info but would’ be interested in reading more about that. Also didn’t receive any tax info from winnings in PokerStarsNJ

[rkelly110]

There will be a mobile app or interface for nj betting

8% tax on wins

12% tax on wins placed online

Wasn't fully aware how good I had it with local agents until now

Last night on the local news in PA they wanted 34% tax. WTF? Play that game, I'll stay with my offshore. 8-12 is too high also.

[slayer14]

5 Dimes in massive trouble i say after all the unprofessional customer service Tony the owner has done all these years who would want to go back to that when you can deal with a professional sportsbook in your home town.

[shadymcgrady]

Last night on the local news in PA they wanted 34% tax. WTF? Play that game, I'll stay with my offshore. 8-12 is too high also.

Absolutely r Kelly. I have 5d but I've been using my local agents for the past 2 years. No fees whatsoever, pay or collect every week

[jjgold]

This is going to be a disaster at least it’s legal for the little square

[Sam Odom]

jj , relax

you'll be one of the last to go -- safe for another 18 months

[shadymcgrady]

Monmouth Park head said this AM walk up only

Who cares anyway William Hill APP is fukkin terrible, logs you out instantly once you do something else on your phone

APPS ARE NOT WEB BASED SOFTWARE

Good luck going traveling to deposit and withdraw

Many of you are confusing this with offshore computer betting or logging on with your web browsers phones or computers where the software is unreal

IT WILL NOT BE THAT

Hey dumbfukk jerk off, I wasn't aware that whatever Monmouth says is the law of the land. Monmouth is the only entity in the entire state of nj?

Quit trying to play checkers on a chess board. The only education you've ever had was how to lose your hair from your gambling. And while your at it quit using the name of the head of an association as if you know the individual

Offshore books will die a slow death. Leave it to nj lawmakers to corrupt a great idea. Just look at what they did with giant stadium in comparison to the one the Cowboys have. Both cost the same

[jjgold]

Only five states will have this in the next five years every expert’s been on TV saying it’s nowhere near being some national thing like England

It’s going to be terrible and the juice is going to be so wide good luck

William Hill deals terrible money lines


If you don’t live in the East Coast you’re screwed

[cincinnatikid513]

5 Dimes in massive trouble i say after all the unprofessional customer service Tony the owner has done all these years who would want to go back to that when you can deal with a professional sportsbook in your home town.

soccer and tennis bettors will be better offshore because of the lines doubtful states will have good lines for tennis soccer

[jjgold]

90% of Vegas books don’t even offer tennis and soccer the betting menus are going to be 30% of what they are off shore again everyone is misinformed here because the rookies


You’re going to have to learn for yourselves and compare and you’ll see the only choice is offshore they’re just too good and too well Run

Also offshore books in Costa Rica now are catering to the entire world not just USA