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    Baltimore Orioles: where good pitchers go to die

    How many good pitchers have they ruined?

    Good pitchers that turned into literal gas cans.

    The list is long, but I decided to make this thread after Bundy set a record of giving up 4 homers without recording an out day before yesterday. He appears to be the newest pitcher that was good and now is a meatballer.

    It was Gausman last year.

    What the fukk is causing this?

    It has all the signs of a bonafied curse.

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    Jim Palmer
    Mike Cuellar
    Dave McNally

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    Jim Palmer
    Mike Cuellar
    Dave McNally
    Pat Dobson

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    Baltimore have one of the best batting offenses in baseball, Adam Jones, Machado, Valencia, Davis how they are struggling so bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer14 View Post
    Baltimore have one of the best batting offenses in baseball, Adam Jones, Machado, Valencia, Davis how they are struggling so bad.

    It seems like they are tanking on purpose.

    So many contracts are due, at the beginning of the season the office said if they do well in the beginning, they will wait to make moves, but if they don’t’t half the team could be gone by July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer14 View Post
    Baltimore have one of the best batting offenses in baseball, Adam Jones, Machado, Valencia, Davis how they are struggling so bad.
    Well 7 of their 9 everyday starters are hitting under .250; 3 of them under .200

    The use of "best" is subjective, as your financial adviser may say, "past results are no indication of future performance"

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    Quote Originally Posted by grease lightnin View Post
    It seems like they are tanking on purpose.

    So many contracts are due, at the beginning of the season the office said if they do well in the beginning, they will wait to make moves, but if they don’t’t half the team could be gone by July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Well 7 of their 9 everyday starters are hitting under .250; 3 of them under .200

    The use of "best" is subjective, as your financial adviser may say, "past results are no indication of future performance"


    They don’t score shit for weeks...


    Bundy gives up 10 in the first inning on Tuesday, so then the O’s score 7 runs.


    Tanking on purpose

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    Or on the other side it where mediocre pitchers come to pitch a gem! Lol. This team seemingly invents a new way to lose every day!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grease lightnin View Post
    They don’t score shit for weeks...


    Bundy gives up 10 in the first inning on Tuesday, so then the O’s score 7 runs.


    Tanking on purpose
    No shit. Where were those 7 runs against Oakland last week when Cobb and then gausman pitched absolute gems just to watch the offense give them nothing! I don't think they scored 7 runs that whole series and they didn't even see A's best starter!! Lol

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    Chris Davis was a fluke..... hes tony baustista making 20 mill plus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostongambler View Post
    Jim Palmer
    Mike Cuellar
    Dave McNally
    Nothing recent ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Or on the other side it where mediocre pitchers come to pitch a gem! Lol. This team seemingly invents a new way to lose every day!!


    What about Arrietta????

    He sucked in Baltimore

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    Quote Originally Posted by grease lightnin View Post
    What about Arrietta????

    He sucked in Baltimore
    I'm saying the opposing teams pitchers tend to do really well vs these bums!!

    Far as Arrietta goes I think it was more a case of him not coming into his own as of yet more so than it being O's fault. Lot of stud pitchers don't really become studs till around age 27-28. Mad max and Kluber both come to mind as guys who weren't thought of as aces until around that time., I always gotta tell myself this with Carlos Martinez when I'm getting pissed off at him, he only in his age 25 or 26 season (forget which) after all! His numbers at this point in career compare very favorably with lot of guys now thought of as among the best in league!! Even the great bob Gibson didn't really start dominating till around that 27-28 season!! Takes time for these guys ability to pitch to catch up to their pure stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    I'm saying the opposing teams pitchers tend to do really well vs these bums!!

    Far as Arrietta goes I think it was more a case of him not coming into his own as of yet more so than it being O's fault. Lot of stud pitchers don't really become studs till around age 27-28. Mad max and Kluber both come to mind as guys who weren't thought of as aces until around that time., I always gotta tell myself this with Carlos Martinez when I'm getting pissed off at him, he only in his age 25 or 26 season (forget which) after all! His numbers at this point in career compare very favorably with lot of guys now thought of as among the best in league!! Even the great bob Gibson didn't really start dominating till around that 27-28 season!! Takes time for these guys ability to pitch to catch up to their pure stuff.
    Yeah your boy Martinez fukked me over the other day

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    I don't know about that:
    Jose Fernandez R.I.P.
    Roger Clemens
    Sandy Koufax
    Clayton Kershaw

    I mean we all could go on and on. Hell, three of these guys had Cy Young's before 27 years old.

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    Not good over there aTM

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    I don't know about that:
    Jose Fernandez R.I.P.
    Roger Clemens
    Sandy Koufax
    Clayton Kershaw

    I mean we all could go on and on. Hell, three of these guys had Cy Young's before 27 years old.
    Not saying there aren't exceptions, some studs come in a dominate early, just don't think ya can give up on a guy too soon as there also a long list of guys that don't start to really dominate until those age 27-28 seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grease lightnin View Post
    Yeah your boy Martinez fukked me over the other day
    Writing was on wall for twinks to Mini sweep us. We inconsistent as fukk and just came off good series vs scrubbies. Hell wouldn't have mattered if he pitched a gem, the offense been putrid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    I don't know about that:
    Jose Fernandez R.I.P.
    Roger Clemens
    Sandy Koufax
    Clayton Kershaw

    I mean we all could go on and on. Hell, three of these guys had Cy Young's before 27 years old.


    Three of those are from a bygone era and when did Keyshawn play for the O’s?

    I should have specified the Showalter era.

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    Gausman doing well, especially on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grease lightnin View Post
    Three of those are from a bygone era and when did Keyshawn play for the O’s?

    I should have specified the Showalter era.
    He was referring to my post about a lot of pitchers not really coming into their own till little later in careers. I think most you can obviously tell early by their stuff, just takes a great deal of them time to become great pitchers opposed to being throwers who get by on stuff alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    He was referring to my post about a lot of pitchers not really coming into their own till little later in careers. I think most you can obviously tell early by their stuff, just takes a great deal of them time to become great pitchers opposed to being throwers who get by on stuff alone.
    Oh duh

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    Dylan Bundy looks more like Al Bundy this year. Orioles going to be dumping salaries soon.

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    That band box park doesn't help either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer14 View Post
    Baltimore have one of the best batting offenses in baseball, Adam Jones, Machado, Valencia, Davis how they are struggling so bad.
    Dude, Adam Jones is on the down swing, Chris Davis is basically done, and Danny Valencia hits RH pitching as good as you and I...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BestPlay2day View Post
    Dylan Bundy looks more like Al Bundy this year. Orioles going to be dumping salaries soon.
    They made a huge mistake not dealing machado either mid season last year or this offseason, now I can't imagine they get nearly the haul for him as who gonna give up a great package of players just for a half season position player rental? Everything I've read is he hell bent on testing the free agent market (who can blame him?) so nobody w a ounce of common sense gonna give them much in return!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    They made a huge mistake not dealing machado either mid season last year or this offseason, now I can't imagine they get nearly the haul for him as who gonna give up a great package of players just for a half season position player rental? Everything I've read is he hell bent on testing the free agent market (who can blame him?) so nobody w a ounce of common sense gonna give them much in return!
    I was saying this about two weeks ago. They should have cleared house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4K View Post
    I was saying this about two weeks ago. They should have cleared house.
    Sometimes teams are let their delusions get in way of better judgement! I mean even if they told themselves they had a decent team playing in that stacked as division with yanks amd sawx pretty much gaurenteed they had no freaking shot of making playoffs!! Certainly didn't expect them to be this bad but really wtf the difference?? Cept for fact I'm pretty sure I've lost more money on them this year than any team! Lol, at least got little back gm 1 against kc, dunno what oddsmakers smoking making them -150ish vs anyone!! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Sometimes teams are let their delusions get in way of better judgement! I mean even if they told themselves they had a decent team playing in that stacked as division with yanks amd sawx pretty much gaurenteed they had no freaking shot of making playoffs!! Certainly didn't expect them to be this bad but really wtf the difference?? Cept for fact I'm pretty sure I've lost more money on them this year than any team! Lol, at least got little back gm 1 against kc, dunno what oddsmakers smoking making them -150ish vs anyone!! lol
    Exactly! Sadly, they have mediocre pitching and homerun or bust lineup. At least they got Schoop back this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post

    Not saying there aren't exceptions, some studs come in a dominate early, just don't think ya can give up on a guy too soon as there also a long list of guys that don't start to really dominate until those age 27-28 seasons.
    Quote Originally Posted by grease lightnin View Post



    Three of those are from a bygone era and when did Keyshawn play for the O’s?

    I should have specified the Showalter era.
    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post

    He was referring to my post about a lot of pitchers not really coming into their own till little later in careers. I think most you can obviously tell early by their stuff, just takes a great deal of them time to become great pitchers opposed to being throwers who get by on stuff alone.
    Quote Originally Posted by grease lightnin View Post

    Oh duh
    Oh brother!!!! A Gang up. LOL. One post and Wham !!!! That's it for me in here..











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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    Oh brother!!!! A Gang up. LOL. One post and Wham !!!! That's it for me in here..











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    4-0 down have they given up on this season

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