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    Didn't he realize that "slavery" was not the best word to use and then corrected himself and said "prison?" Not a fan if him, but I respect people who say what's not popular while being under the microscope, even if I disagree 90% of the time.

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    Black slavery was a choice, K West maybe jumped the gun on that comment..

    Blacks were shackled and put on plantations, bought and sold, couldn't just run away and get free, that wasn't allowed.. Wasn't a choice... Maybe for some though.....

    Who cares it's over with and done!!.. History... Blacks need to stop talking about it and getting fired up over it constantly.. Slavery days are over.. Move on....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Black slavery was a choice, K West maybe jumped the gun on that comment..

    Blacks were shackled and put on plantations, bought and sold, couldn't just run away and get free, that wasn't allowed.. Wasn't a choice... Maybe for some though.....

    Who cares it's over with and done!!.. History... Blacks need to stop talking about it and getting fired up over it constantly.. Slavery days are over.. Move on....
    Their were black slave owners in the States apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packerd_00 View Post
    Their were black slave owners in the States apparently.
    Blacks sold Blacks out of West Africa mostly back in the day. It certainly wasn't all the white mans fault.. I agree..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Blacks sold Blacks out of West Africa mostly back in the day. It certainly wasn't all the white mans fault.. I agree..
    Yep alot more to it then meets the eye for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Blacks sold Blacks out of West Africa mostly back in the day. It certainly wasn't all the white mans fault.. I agree..
    shut the fukk up you uneducated idiot.


    White devils came to Africa with GUNS and CANNONS and ready to use them while all Africans had were spears. They were going to get their slaves whether Africans agreed to it or not. They didn't sail all the way over there just to leave empty handed you dumb fukker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    I miss the old Kanye
    Guys never the same since marrying that double K THOT

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBusiness View Post
    shut the fukk up you uneducated idiot.


    White devils came to Africa with GUNS and CANNONS and ready to use them while all Africans had were spears. They were going to get their slaves whether Africans agreed to it or not. They didn't sail all the way over there just to leave empty handed you dumb fukker.
    Not only is it okay to rattle the bars of your mental prison, but your keepers encourage it.

    Here, have a snack .... .... WHITE DEVILS!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBusiness View Post
    shut the fukk up you uneducated idiot.


    White devils came to Africa with GUNS and CANNONS and ready to use them while all Africans had were spears. They were going to get their slaves whether Africans agreed to it or not. They didn't sail all the way over there just to leave empty handed you dumb fukker.
    A little of both know your black history pal..

    Fact -

    At first, white slave traders simply went on kidnapping raids, but this proved too dangerous for the Europeans. Instead, they established hundreds of forts and trading stations along Africa's West Coast. Local African rulers and black merchants delivered captured people to these trading posts to sell as slaves to European ...

    http://www.crf-usa.org/black-history...he-slave-trade

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByeShea View Post
    Not only is it okay to rattle the bars of your mental prison, but your keepers encourage it.

    WHITE DEVILS!!!!!!!
    So white devils were going to leave empty handed after sailing for months to Africa? I don't think so, Bob.


    Lets look at who wrote the history of African slavery. It was the same devils that were chaining up Africans sailing them across the ocean.

    They could write what they wanted to write, who was going to stop them?

    But yeah. Whites were going to sail for MONTHS to get to Africa just to be told "no sorry, go back where you came from".

    Yeah right!

    White =Guns
    Africans= Spears



    It's kind of interesting when you think about it..... White devils sailed all the way to North America. Do you think they were going to leave empty handed after months and months of sailing if the Indians said "no thanks, not interested, go back to where you came from."

    Whites= guns
    Indians= Bow and Arrows

    We all read how that turned out. But yet again, white devils wrote the history on that as well, claiming THE INDIANS WERE THE SAVAGES AS THEY WERE DOING NOTHING WITH THE LAND AND FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER (LIKE WHITES NEVER FOUGHT AGAINST EACH OTHER ON THEIR OWN LANDS ).... YET THEY WERE THE ONES THAT NEARLY WIPED THEM OUT OF EXISTENCE WITH THEIR GUNS AND NASTY DISEASES.
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    Actually the Portuguese started slavery as means of trade, everyone else followed

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    Bigbusiness trying to rewrite history because it doesn't fit his arguement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post
    Actually the Portuguese started slavery as means of trade, everyone else followed
    Actually slavery started thousands of years before blacks in Africa. Slavery has been a part of history since the first humans. Most wouldn't know that because blacks try to pretend it just happened to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post
    Actually the Portuguese started slavery as means of trade, everyone else followed
    Weren't the Arabs slave trading centuries before that,I know they we're one of the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packerd_00 View Post
    Weren't the Arabs slave trading centuries before that,I know they we're one of the first.
    Yeah Sry I meant using naval vessels to transport

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    This argument would lead to people getting hurt if in person =}

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    Outside the box. hes going to end up in a box talking like that. Anyone with any understanding of History will not agree with him. I think he is saying this to out all the racist people in the media who thinks the same way and then retract what he said, then flip and said that he wanted people to realize that racism is still alive and kicking and breathing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unde0087 View Post
    Actually slavery started thousands of years before blacks in Africa. Slavery has been a part of history since the first humans. Most wouldn't know that because blacks try to pretend it just happened to them.
    Yeah prisoners of war in asia, I was referring to using naval ships to transport

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    A little of both know your black history pal..

    Fact -

    At first, white slave traders simply went on kidnapping raids, but this proved too dangerous for the Europeans. Instead, they established hundreds of forts and trading stations along Africa's West Coast. Local African rulers and black merchants delivered captured people to these trading posts to sell as slaves to European ...

    http://www.crf-usa.org/black-history...he-slave-trade
    Whites- guns
    Blacks - spears

    FACT

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    Quote Originally Posted by unde0087 View Post
    Bigbusiness trying to rewrite history because it doesn't fit his arguement.
    No shiit, nothing more ignorant and irritating then when black people like BIGBUSINESS raise a stink about Whites and Black Slavery and don't even know the history behind it all..

    I tried to give him a history lesson in an above post and he didn't respond.. Blacks were equally responsible for black slavery if not even more so in West Africa back in the day. Wasn't only the White Devils there were Black Devils too...

    At first, white slave traders simply went on kidnapping raids, but this proved too dangerous for the Europeans. Instead, they established hundreds of forts and trading stations along Africa's West Coast. Local African rulers and black merchants delivered captured people to these trading posts to sell as slaves to European ...

    http://www.crf-usa.org/black-history...he-slave-trade

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    Bigbusiness feels very strongly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post
    Yeah Sry I meant using naval vessels to transport
    I got you.

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    What Jibby fails to grasp is that white devils weren't leaving empty handed regardless.

    Before the slave trade took place, what happened between the Natives and Europeans?

    Did the Europeans trade with them in exchange for land?

    No they did not. What those devils did was got out their guns and started killing them.


    White devils were going to get their slaves REGARDLESS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post
    Yeah prisoners of war in asia, I was referring to using naval ships to transport
    Every major civilization in ancient times used slaves. There isn't one period in history of this planet we haven't seen slaves. Every races and religion have found themselves in slavery throughout history. FACT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBusiness View Post
    What Jibby fails to grasp is that white devils weren't leaving empty handed regardless.

    Before the slave trade took place, what happened between the Natives and Europeans?

    Did the Europeans trade with them in exchange for land?

    No they did not. What those devils did was got out their guns and started killing them.


    White devils were going to get their slaves REGARDLESS.
    What about the black that enslave other blacks? It is happening still to this day. Does it only count if whites are involved so you can hate on them? Slavery didn't start a few hundreds years ago pal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unde0087 View Post
    Actually slavery started thousands of years before blacks in Africa. Slavery has been a part of history since the first humans. Most wouldn't know that because blacks try to pretend it just happened to them.
    You think so? Or is it most recent than the slavery you're referring to. Things fade with time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    No shiit, nothing more ignorant and irritating then when black people like BIGBUSINESS raise a stink about Whites and Black Slavery and don't even know the history behind it all..

    I tried to give him a history lesson in an above post and he didn't respond.. Blacks were equally responsible for black slavery if not even more so in West Africa back in the day. Wasn't only the White Devils there were Black Devils too...

    At first, white slave traders simply went on kidnapping raids, but this proved too dangerous for the Europeans. Instead, they established hundreds of forts and trading stations along Africa's West Coast. Local African rulers and black merchants delivered captured people to these trading posts to sell as slaves to European ...

    http://www.crf-usa.org/black-history...he-slave-trade
    I didn't respond in depth because you're just parroting the same tired response many other clueless whites use. But I'll respond with this.

    There are many misconceptions about African history and nowhere is this more true than the topic of the slave trade. Very often I see comments by people who argue that Africans sold each other into slavery. There is some element of truth to this, but to speak of the slave trade solely as Africans selling each other t is a gross oversimplification of what was a complex historical event. This also seems to be an attempt to shift the burden of the slave trade on the victims of that very trade. In How Europe Underdeveloped Africa, Walter Rodney mentions how the white author of a book on the slave trade admitted that he was encouraged by other scholars to blame the slave trade solely on the Africans. This narrative helps to lessen European guilt by making Africans seem just as or even more guilty of being involved in the slave trade. This piece is not an attempt to ignore the African role in the slave trade or to absolve those that were involved, but to to provide a more complete picture of the African involvement in slave trade.

    In the first place, the Portuguese initiated what eventually became the Trans-Atlantic slave trade mainly through slave raids along the coasts of Africa. The first of these raids came in 1444 and was led by Lançarote de Freitas. The problem with raiding for slaves was that it was extremely dangerous. For instance, the slave trader Nuno Tristão was killed during an ambush. Slave raiding proved to be an extremely dangerous way to obtain slaves, but buying slaves was much safer and took less effort on the part of the Europeans. Therefore, the first phase of the slave trade began not with a trade, but with a series of raids. This point is especially important because although the slave trade was on some levels based on a partnership between European buyers and African traders, the slave trade did not begin as such.

    Moreover, the partnership between the traders and buyers was an uneasy one. The European slave traders often betrayed those who supplied them with slaves. A famous case of this was the African slave trader Daaga who was tricked and captured by slave traders. He was taken to Trinidad where he would eventually lead a mutiny. Another example is given by Anne Bailey in her book African Voices in the Atlantic Slave Trade. She mentions the story of Chief Ndorkutsu who had been providing captives to the European traders. Eventually some of the Ndorkutsu’s own relatives were tricked into boarding a slave ship and then taken as slaves to Cuba. In some cases, such as that of Madam Tinubu in Nigeria and Afonso of the Kongo Kingdom, those Africans that initially gave African captives to the Europeans came to resist the slave trade. Tinubu had a change of heart when she realized how inhumanely the slaves were treated. Afonso was almost assassinated by the Portuguese after he demanded an end to the slave trade in his kingdom.

    Typically wars in West Africa were relatively short affairs that left a small number of causalities. The introduction of European weapons made these wars more drawn out and destructive affairs. Moreover, the only way Africans could acquire these firearms was through the trade of slaves. A king of Dahomey once requested that Europeans establish a firearms factory in his nation, but this request went ignored. Firearms became necessary for African nations to defend themselves both from African rivals as well as from European intrusion, but the only way to acquire these weapons was through the slave trade. This situation only benefited the competing European powers that were able to play Africans against each other.

    Finally, the slave trade left a negative legacy on both sides of the Atlantic. The Africans that were brought to the Americas were forced to labor as slaves, while enduring some of the most inhumane treatment imaginable. Those who remained, however, were left to mourn the lost of their friends and relatives that were taken away. A handful of African traders and rulers may have gained some wealth from the slave trade, but overall it was a very negative event for Africa. There were African kingdoms, such as the Kongo Kingdom, that eventually fell due to the onslaught brought about by the slave trade. We often think of the negative impact that the slave trade had on those who were captured, but the slave trade was also devastating for those who escaped being captured as well.

    Some Africans did play a role in the slave trade and the trade could not have been as large as it was without cooperation from Africans. With that being said, I think many people who have not properly studied the slave trade have a tendency to overstate how involved Africans were in a misguided attempt to shift the blame of the slave trade on Africans.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dwayn...b_9637798.html

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