1. 04-21-18 01:41 AM #36
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    Darnold is a project with more upside, but Rosen & Mayfield are way more ready to start on day 1.
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  2. 04-21-18 03:46 AM #37
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    Player to be drafted first
    Sam Darnold (-210)
    Josh Allen (+180)
    Player to be drafted first
    Josh Allen (-165)
    Saquon Barkley (+145)
    Player to be drafted first
    Josh Allen (-200)
    Bradley Chubb (+175)
    Player to be drafted first
    Saquon Barkley (-360)
    Bradley Chubb (+280)
    Player to be drafted first
    Josh Rosen (-300)
    Saquon Barkley (+250)
    Player to be drafted first
    Derwin James (-140)
    Minkah Fitzpatrick (+120)
    Player to be drafted first
    Tremaine Edmunds (-160)
    Roquan Smith (+140)
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  3. 04-21-18 07:42 AM #38
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    If they were smart they'd trade the #1 pick for #12 and #22 plus next years #1 from the Bills.

    Then take the best non-QB available with #4 #12 and #22 and grab Lamar Jackson with the #33 or #35 pick.

    There's a ton of good talent in this draft. 5 of the top 35 picks in the draft??? Doesn't matter who the QB is, they'd be a better team instantly.
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  4. 04-21-18 07:48 AM #39
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    ^ If they were smart they would pack up and get the fukk outta Cleveland.......
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  5. 04-21-18 07:49 AM #40
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    browns will find a way to mess this up
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  6. 04-21-18 07:50 AM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    Giant go jagoff a frog pAL

    Noone cares

    This is a gambling forum not Mel kipper Jr forum
    This IS gambling related because you can BET it.

    And Darnold still -140 favorite at 5 Dimes, Allen is +160.
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  7. 04-21-18 07:53 AM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbobets View Post
    Unless one of them is head and shoulders above the rest just take saquon #1 guy will be a difference maker. Hard to f'ck that up and you can still get your qb with #4 pick.
    They should get Barkley at 4 since it looks like QBs are going 1-2-3.

    And Rosen is NOT one of them so somebody could potentiially get a semi-bargain as Rosen may not go Top 10.
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  8. 04-21-18 07:57 AM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    They should get Barkley at 4 since it looks like QBs are going 1-2-3.

    And Rosen is NOT one of them so somebody could potentiially get a semi-bargain as Rosen may not go Top 10.
    rosen is def christian ponder likely out of the league within a few years
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  9. 04-21-18 08:01 AM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stallion View Post
    It has to be Rosen or Allen; if not Barkley.
    As I said, Rosen probably won't go Top 10 barring trades.
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  10. 04-21-18 08:06 AM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    I've watched more Allen tape than most. Have to admit that I'm intrigued.

    The big-arm thing is no joke. GMs dream of a guy who can split the seams. Mark me down as cautiously optimistic.

    In 5 years...where will we see the standing of Darnold? Rosen? Mayfield?

    I'd seriously question Rosen's attitude issue. He's going to be a bum.

    I'm not too hi on Darnold. He's just never jumped off the page to me. And OhioSt bossed him.

    I actually think Mayfield and RUDOLPH will be good value picks.
    Mayfield WOULD have been a decent value pick a bit later in the draft, but I think he is a reach at #3.
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  11. 04-21-18 08:10 AM #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    rosen is def christian ponder likely out of the league within a few years
    But he is pretty good flyer in second half of first round considering he was talked about as #1 overall pick potential what, a month ago? His attitude is scaring teams away.
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  12. 04-21-18 10:58 AM #47
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    If any team has to depend on a QB in this draft stepping in at the beginning of this season, they are in HUGE trouble. Every QB in this draft are projects, though some are much bigger projects than others. The teams that succeed in this draft are the teams that will get the good players in rounds 2, 3, and 4. After the first 15 or so picks in round 1, everything seems to even out and with 4 to 5 QB's going in the top 15, there probably will be only 10 players or less that can step in and start day 1.
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  13. 04-21-18 12:23 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    This is what most mock drafts are showing nowadays.

    Shocking to say the least.

    I don't claim to be an NFL scout, but this is not the selection I would make.

    Sam Darnold.
    they better take darnold if they want any shot at making the playoffs
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  14. 04-21-18 01:34 PM #49
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    Allen has a high ceiling but he could well be a complete bust. I think he's more of a long-term reclamation project than a developmental project. I'm glad my team won't be picking him.
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  15. 04-21-18 02:23 PM #50
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    Anyone who takes anyone other than Barkley at #1 doesn't know anything about football
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  16. 04-21-18 02:24 PM #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    This IS gambling related because you can BET it.

    And Darnold still -140 favorite at 5 Dimes, Allen is +160.
    ok lets see your wager on it

    and what are the max wagers?

    what if i put an over/under on time it takes me to piss

    i can leave that in players talk? i would take a bigger wager than 5dimes, that is for sure

    and i wouldnt even be involved with credit fraud
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  17. 04-21-18 02:32 PM #52
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    Come on Browns get you're shit together already.
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  18. 04-21-18 02:34 PM #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by packerd_00 View Post
    Come on Browns get you're shit together already.
    i think they make the playoffs this year bro

    and im a steelers fanboy
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  19. 04-21-18 02:36 PM #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    i think they make the playoffs this year bro

    and im a steelers fanboy
    I hope you're right,I think we all just want to see them sort themselves out.
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  20. 04-21-18 02:38 PM #55
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    i hope they dont

    but they remind me alot of the 76ers this year
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  21. 04-21-18 03:14 PM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    i think they make the playoffs this year bro

    and im a steelers fanboy
    Prolly not. Should get about 8-9 wins though. If they drafted Barkley, playoffs for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 19th Hole View Post
    Player to be drafted first
    Sam Darnold (-210)
    Josh Allen (+180)
    Player to be drafted first
    Josh Allen (-165)
    Saquon Barkley (+145)
    Player to be drafted first
    Josh Allen (-200)
    Bradley Chubb (+175)
    Player to be drafted first
    Saquon Barkley (-360)
    Bradley Chubb (+280)
    Player to be drafted first
    Josh Rosen (-300)
    Saquon Barkley (+250)
    Player to be drafted first
    Derwin James (-140)
    Minkah Fitzpatrick (+120)
    Player to be drafted first
    Tremaine Edmunds (-160)
    Roquan Smith (+140)
    Are these odds old? Barkley +250 over Rosen is too good to be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Anyone who takes anyone other than Barkley at #1 doesn't know anything about football
    Browns will get Barkley at #4 anyway so they have the right idea for a change. I am not so sure about taking Allen over Darnold #1 though.
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  24. 04-21-18 05:14 PM #59
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    Wouldn't risk losing a shot at barkley or chubb if I were Cleveland. No Andrew Luck coming out of this draft. They have to come away with a 10+ year pro bowler whether or not they get it right at qb with one of their picks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbobets View Post
    Wouldn't risk losing a shot at barkley or chubb if I were Cleveland. No Andrew Luck coming out of this draft. They have to come away with a 10+ year pro bowler whether or not they get it right at qb with one of their picks.
    If there are no more trades, Browns should already know Giants and Jets are taking QBs. Only risk would be if Giants trade down after Browns make Allen or Darnold first pick.
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  26. 04-22-18 12:26 PM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post

    i think they make the playoffs this year bro

    and im a steelers fanboy
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  27. 04-22-18 02:05 PM #62
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    browns have had a very good offseason, absolutely think they'd make the playoffs if they draft barkley

    drafting any of these qb's or most any qb wouldn't help the wins total this year (or likely ever with these qb's)
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