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Most disappointing MLB team so far
10% into the season, still very early. But which team has disappointed you so far? (homerism or not)
Baltimore Orioles at 5-13 record? (soon to be 5-14 in progress)
Washington Nationals at 9-10 record?
Chicago Cubs at 7-8 record?
LA Dodgers 8-9 at record?
NY Yankees at 8-8 record?
Cleveland Indians at 9-7 record?
Other?
I would say Yankees. Biased because I watched the game Tuesday, where they looked like a little league team.
maybe Houston Astros at 12-7 record? Just hit into a triple-play groundball in Seattle, top of 4th inning....Evan Gattis wandered off first base thinking the double-play (step on third base, throw to second base) made 3 total outs in the inning, but it was only two down until they tagged him out!
Lol what? 12-7 is disappointing? That puts them on pace for over 100 wins. I knew you were dumb but you might be even slower than I originally thought.Originally Posted by hotcross
^^^^comparing to other division leaders at the present time:
Boston Red Sox 15-2
LA Angels 13-5 (AL West division ahead of Astros)
NY Mets 13-4
It's early guys, wait for the All Star break and then you can determine who's under performing. Some teams start slow but finish strong.
how has no one said the reds? 3-15 and just canned Price
Definitely the Dodgers
Probably the Cubs or Yanks as of now, but it is really early.
and t-wizzle, can you let it go of our e-beef you imagined? Say something constructive, or nothing at all.
I didn't even diss you, I was making a joke that you and Mr. Munny were on the same pick one night...it won by the way.
no ? Yankees, they have enough firepower to have high school pitchers and win 80 games
I think because they were expected to be horrible.
Fine by me. Beef squashed.
That doesn’t mean that I can’t be critical of your post. 12-7 is a good start.
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I'd say the Dodgers. I'm not sure why people are so surprised about the Yankees. They're pitching other than Severino is terrible and they'll probably set the record for Ks by an offense this year. As a team they will hit a ton of bombs, but most will be solo shots. Typical Yankee hype.
Yankees without a doubt,it's early true but they'll have to makeup a ton of ground on the Red Sox just so they don't end up with the wild card again.
Indians aren't in terrible shape,9-7 the division is pretty much down to them and the Twins.
Yankees
One reason
Payroll
I agree. In fact, get ready for the runs that a couple of those teams hit even before the break.
You can still say, to this early point, who is disappointing but even then what does that mean?
Records mean so little right now so let's look at something more meaningful from a betting perspective.
This table shows the overall money won or lost by a fan had they blindly bet to win $100 (which is a poor money management strategy when compared to a flat risk strategy, but sadly more posters will relate to the first one)…
Obviously numbers can vary from different closing lines used, but you get the idea…
Team P & L Boston $892 Arizona $834 NY Mets $770 Atlanta $553 LA Angels $531 Pittsburgh $496 Toronto $463 Colorado $388 Minnesota $327 Seattle $317 Philadelphia $183 St. Louis $114 Milwaukee $76 Houston -$84 San Francisco -$84 Texas -$125 Cleveland -$207 Detroit -$219 Oakland -$225 Miami -$235 Chi Cubs -$320 Washington -$342 NY Yankees -$352 San Diego -$353 LA Dodgers -$445 Baltimore -$576 Chi White Sox -$587 Tampa Bay -$804 Kansas City -$883 Cincinnati -$1,133
As you can see, Cincinnati is quite disappointing from a betting perspective and you can see where other teams stand relative to each other.
This table shows the same money for home games…
Team P & L Arizona $405 Boston $392 Atlanta $390 Philadelphia $251 Minnesota $233 Seattle $198 Toronto $167 NY Mets $138 Cleveland $58 Pittsburgh $1 Houston -$43 LA Angels -$59 Oakland -$93 San Francisco -$115 Detroit -$193 NY Yankees -$231 Baltimore -$241 St. Louis -$241 Milwaukee -$246 Colorado -$267 LA Dodgers -$268 Chi Cubs -$278 Tampa Bay -$369 Chi White Sox -$388 Miami -$410 Texas -$529 Washington -$562 Cincinnati -$569 Kansas City -$604 San Diego -$613
Those teams losing over 5 units already have been pretty disappointing to the home betting base.
To complete the analysis, here is the same money for away games…
Team P & L Colorado $655 NY Mets $632 LA Angels $590 Boston $500 Pittsburgh $495 Arizona $429 Texas $404 St. Louis $355 Milwaukee $322 Toronto $296 San Diego $260 Washington $220 Miami $175 Atlanta $163 Seattle $119 Minnesota $94 San Francisco $31 Detroit -$26 Houston -$41 Chi Cubs -$42 Philadelphia -$68 NY Yankees -$121 Oakland -$132 LA Dodgers -$177 Chi White Sox -$199 Cleveland -$265 Kansas City -$279 Baltimore -$335 Tampa Bay -$435 Cincinnati -$564
You can’t have disappointment without expectation. Sometimes it’s best to set the expectation based on the previous year. Are they performing better or worse at the same time of season or as a continuation of last year’s season? Offseason moves can also influence the expectation.
Understanding expectation in relation to not just money but any relevant stats and then monitoring the status is a great way to see where a team has been and can also signal turning points and where a team is headed.
I don’t know about you, but any indicators of where a team is headed or its future performance is always welcome in my betting lab.
All teams mentioned above could use this girl on the mound.
She has a fukkin arm!
K,
One thing you didn't mention is some of those teams that have under performed are ones that should be looked at for value being the public will shun those teams. Also, fading the ones that have over performed.
K,
One thing you didn't mention is some of those teams that have under performed are ones that should be looked at for value being the public will shun those teams. Also, fading the ones that have over performed.
Agreed. It's not just the money, major commonly used stats too. Together they sway the market just enough to give some of that value before the market catches up. Then on to the next team or factor.
He went down, and then really got pissed.
Did he slip and get embarrassed? Wtf was that?
All he wanted to do was giver her her shoes back.
Then she turned into Roger Clemons.
Asshole needs to get bitch slapped in prison where he belongs
Astros. They should have already won the division by now.
Yankees.
Why did they get rid of Girardi?
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