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    Point Blank Dave

    Does this guy work for SBR or is he just another poster. I try to read his stuff but its like reading war and peace and at the end of his novel half the time i have no fkin clue what side he is on and wtf i just read. Also wondered why all his responses are from non pros usually with only like 5-15 posts in there history.Just wandering he seems like he knows his stuff and is trying to help so god bless him.
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    too long

    people want one paragraph of data, new age 2 minute videos , short posts, short articles

    People have no time to read anymore

    no tracking at all so it means nothing, no cred to the thread

    Everyone scared to death to be exposed keeping a spreadsheet

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    too long

    people want one paragraph of data

    no tracking at all so it means nothing, no cred to the thread

    Everyone scared to death to be exposed keeping a spreadsheet
    Lol it is too long but does he work for SBR?
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    I guess I am in the minority on this one. I enjoy his effort and insight.

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    No idea who he is

    Do not care

    I am here to WIN

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    His column was popular before SBR started hosting him. That's why so many replies are from newer members. They have joined due to David moving here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    His column was popular before SBR started hosting him. That's why so many replies are from newer members. They have joined due to David moving here.
    Yea i was figuring he was bringing new members in from other places,but sometimes i just want to dude to give me a score prediction instead of reading for a hour and still not knowing who he likes.
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    If you actually track his plays he and everyone else will be down 30+ units by the end of the year.

    Every spreadsheet here proves it and everybody the tracks plays


    Thereís a reason most people do not track plays, its gambling insecurity

    Nobody legit my eyes unless youíre accurately tracking plays .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    No idea who he is

    Do not care

    I am here to WIN
    Lolololololol
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    I'm going to start tracking his plays...

    stay tuned for my tracking thread!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4K View Post
    I guess I am in the minority on this one. I enjoy his effort and insight.
    No actually you are the majority here. Dave is one of the most informed and knowledgeable people in the business. His experience and unique insight to sports is a good way to get educated. I read his articles daily usually takes bout 3-4 minutes and always learn something useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR drew View Post
    No actually you are the majority here. Dave is one of the most informed and knowledgeable people in the business. His experience and unique insight to sports is a good way to get educated. I read his articles daily usually takes bout 3-4 minutes and always learn something useful.
    Not according to JJ lololol.You must be 1 of those speed readers if ur reading that in 3-4 minutes
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    Man I said this and million times the only people that win at sports betting are midlers , scalpers and bonus whores that have books all over the world.

    The theme thereís no risk

    Nobody can predict on a regular basis player performance on any level thereís too many intangibles that make sports betting pure luck.

    Years ago books did not move lines of other books so was huge discrepancies and everyone had massive edges .

    Billy Walters got wiped out once the lines got tight and books started copying each other with a line service

    Most Vegas books move odds changes under one minute off pinnacle

    I forgot more than that guy knows

    End of thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Man I said this and million times the only people that win at sports betting are midlers , scalpers and bonus whores that have books all over the world.

    The theme thereís no risk

    Nobody can predict on a regular basis player performance on any level thereís too many intangibles that make sports betting pure luck.

    Years ago books did not move lines of other books so was huge discrepancies and everyone had massive edges .

    Billy Walters got wiped out once the lines got tight and books started copying each other with a line service

    Most Vegas books move odds changes under one minute off pinnacle

    I forgot more than that guy knows

    End of thread
    DOUBLE J actually might be the smartest shit u ever said and i know thats not saying much but i will give credit where credit is due.
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    Iím a ton smarter than I appear to be here Iíll own anyone on sportsbetting or sportsbooks or line service .

    LT profits proves every day you canít win he gets great number Uses that silly Ken Pom site And a ton of other stuff and look at his results

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Iím a ton smarter than I appear to be here Iíll own anyone on sportsbetting or sportsbooks or line service .

    LT profits proves every day you canít win he gets great number Uses that silly Ken Pom site And a ton of other stuff and look at his results
    Now this might be the dumbest shit you ever said and thats saying alot!!!
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    Iíll own people even on futures trading , FX trading , CFD trading and I can go on and on

    The point is ask a stockbroker for his stock trades youíll never see it ask a tout for his sports book results and his real bet youíll never see it why theyíre all just salesman

    Anyone can write or talk a good game but it doesnít mean anything with the bottom line of money

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    I'd wager JJ knows more about books and the industry worldwide than any other US based bettor here.

    Have thought it is strange how much he knows more than a few times
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    Optional I had a Account at Queensland TAB 15 years ago to bet horses
    Had accounts every book all over globe

    Played at New Zealand TAB too, played at sportsbetting.au and Topsports AU

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    Stop hating!! The dude knows his stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Optional I had a Account at Queensland TAB 15 years ago to bet horses
    Had accounts every book all over globe

    Played at New Zealand TAB too, played at sportsbetting.au and Topsports AU
    JJ do you remember Oasis sportsbook around like 2002,first book i had and them fuckers were legit, i can remember them sending me 3000 ** payments without any hassle
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    He knows his stuff of course!!!

    My point it does not equate to winning

    Knowing your stuff means nothing in a game of chance (sports, horses, poker,stocks,fx)

    Tons of experts of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutchut12 View Post
    JJ do you remember Oasis sportsbook around like 2002,first book i had and them fuckers were legit, i can remember them sending me 3000 ** payments without any hassle
    I had an account there...beautiful software ..black backround

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    Anyone remember Bowman's out of the Isle of Mann?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    He knows his stuff of course!!!

    My point it does not equate to winning

    Knowing your stuff means nothing in a game of chance (sports, horses, poker,stocks,fx)

    Tons of experts of course
    Jj so your saying knowing your stuff doesn’t help at winning? Of course it does !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4K View Post
    Anyone remember Bowman's out of the Isle of Mann?
    Never heard of them,i went from oasis,to betonsports,to betjaimaica, bodog, legendz,5dimes,now at heritage.Legendz was the best until those dumbasses got busted
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    NHL- Toronto -1.5 +165 at home !!

    This line looks like stealing money !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    This line looks like stealing money !!
    Il have to see what point blank says about it till i pull the trigger lolol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutchut12 View Post
    Never heard of them,i went from oasis,to betonsports,to betjaimaica, bodog, legendz,5dimes,now at heritage.Legendz was the best until those dumbasses got busted
    Bowman's got bought by some other book. I once hit 9 out of 10 on a round robin and I won $12k. Got banned the next day and they FedExed me a check...lol

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    That’s what happen if you bet with lightweight books!! Another reason why I don’t fck with bookies - just stick to the SBR top books and you will always get paid !!

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    I think Bowmans got bought out by Bodog way back

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    That’s what happen if you bet with lightweight books!! Another reason why I don’t fck with bookies - just stick to the SBR top books and you will always get paid !!
    They were dumb clowns and did me a favor. I would have pissed all of that money away...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4K View Post
    They were dumb clowns and did me a favor. I would have pissed all of that money away...lol
    Ya I have that problem to!! Not cashing out

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    Ya I have that problem to!! Not cashing out
    I bet small these days, more for entertainment than anything else but I too suffer from not taking out winnings at times. lol

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