1. 02-01-18 07:48 AM #1
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    Technology Ruined Professional Sports Bettor



    Cannot beat them anymore
    mother fukker

    LINE SERVICES
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  2. 02-01-18 08:25 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post


    Cannot beat them anymore
    mother fukker

    LINE SERVICES
    Line services have been obsolete for years now, JJ

    Pro's have made adjustments which has been going back to old school for some and creating more saber numbers for others

    Both methods have done okay but it takes a lot of work

    I think the guys that got rid of the computer programs have done a little     better
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  3. 02-01-18 08:27 AM #3
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    Fading the public needs to be your starting point.
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  4. 02-01-18 08:28 AM #4
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    Ignore any technical stuff.
    It's only going to get worse because DraftKings/FanDuel
    are getting in the sportsbook business - they are forming
    their models and naming their books right now. I know this.
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  5. 02-01-18 08:31 AM #5
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    The bottom line is the books still have to make a number and they do this by making adjustments themselves

    A player can never use the same method of selection for any long period, you have to make adjustments to their adjustments
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  6. 02-01-18 09:02 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    Line services have been obsolete for years now, JJ

    better
    No way. They're your only chance.
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  7. 02-01-18 09:07 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    No way. They're your only chance.
    Not saying it's bad, you can't just sit back and watch line movements and pick up smart money like in years past and grab the same number

    Numbers move across the markets too quick for line serves to be effective anymore, all you get are fried numbers by the time you react which is not profitable over the long term
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  8. 02-01-18 10:22 AM #8
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    Line services are what killed the value men

    Everyone just moves off pinnacle under 1 minute even books in Australia
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  9. 02-01-18 10:23 AM #9
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    Technology ruined professional sports bettor? As in increased technology and better science has passed up the screen watchers? I would say not knowing the difference between real moves and false moves ruined the screen follower might be a better interpretation?

    I wonder how many sports books got burned on false moves? Where they moved on air and still do.

    I will agree that technology ruined the professional scalper and ho. Bang Bangs are pretty hard to come by.
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  10. 02-01-18 10:26 AM #10
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    I thought everyone move off Bookmaker !! Even Vegas
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post


    Cannot beat them anymore
    mother fukker

    LINE SERVICES
    I'll agree somewhat with this because more and more information is out there, even for the Shops themselves
    But I still believe they can be beat. You just have to look where they aren't looking.

    Books will pay more attention to the
    Villanova games, and not as much to the Coastal Carolina games
    you need to find value in these lower profile games

    my 2 cents
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  12. 02-01-18 11:27 AM #12
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    I’ve lived in Vegas and very small schools the lines would change within one minute of pinnacle change at every Vegas book
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    have to wager on a 'feel' like the old days
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  14. 02-01-18 11:44 AM #14
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    JJ..the way I see it,I agree with you!!.....this is like politics , two diff. sides with arguments,and never a conclusion!!

    Back in the old days,most books would loose $ during baseball season, year in and year out.
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  15. 02-01-18 11:49 AM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Tony View Post
    I'll agree somewhat with this because more and more information is out there, even for the Shops themselves
    But I still believe they can be beat. You just have to look where they aren't looking.

    Books will pay more attention to the
    Villanova games, and not as much to the Coastal Carolina games
    you need to find value in these lower profile games

    my 2 cents
    This is why I love the Big Sky conference in cbb. Lines are not that sharp on many nights.
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  16. 02-01-18 12:08 PM #16
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    Back in the old days!! If you’re betting on small college schools !! It would be hard to find any information !! Now with the internet/Twitter - everything is instant news
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    Back in the old days!! If you’re betting on small college schools !! It would be hard to find any information !! Now with the internet/Twitter - everything is instant news
    To an extent
    True
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  18. 02-01-18 12:31 PM #18
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    You know there is always the "become a better handicapper" yourself. Make your own lines - your own models - your own research of variables - factors. Just following something/somebody and being a winner - pretty hard to do - but, if one is in a nitch - keeps records of results - who knows - short cuts to doing the work yourself - not many exist!
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  19. 02-01-18 06:54 PM #19
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    Models don’t work anymore, Don’t forget way more parity in sports now than ever before.

    All your old school so called syndicates got buried
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