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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Amazon & Walmart workers need food stamps to live. The owners of those companies are the richest people in the world. While your tax dollars are subsidizing their corporations.

    Trickle Down doesn't work.
    Actually a full time worker at Walmart makes enough money to keep a family of 3 above the federal poverty level, possibly 4 when you factor in child tax credits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire in da hole View Post
    http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/11/news...obs/index.html

    Yet, people are getting more raises, jobs are opening up, bonuses...

    these are facts
    Yet half the country makes 30k or less a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Monopoly & Oligarchs don't create growth. They create feudalism & what you would call a shithole.
    To eliminate monopoly & oligarchs, shrink the size of government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post
    Actually a full time worker at Walmart makes enough money to keep a family of 3 above the federal poverty level, possibly 4 when you factor in child tax credits.
    Does Walmart have more part time workers or full time workers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Monopoly & Oligarchs don't create growth. They create feudalism & what you would call a shithole.
    No the rich shrink their companies, lay off employees, and if squeezed to hard they move their businesses and money to other countries that exploit cheap labor.. Robin hood is a fairy tail and that stealing from the rich to give to poor doesn't work..

    The poor and struggling need jobs Knickers and they don't need their jobs leaving the Country.. Gotta take care of the wealthy and not run them out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post
    To eliminate monopoly & oligarchs, shrink the size of government.
    They are the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    No the rich shrink their companies, lay off employees, move their business and money to companies that exploit cheap labor.. Robin hood is a fairy tail and that stealing from the rich to give to poor doesn't work..

    The poor and struggling need jobs Knickers and they don't need their jobs leaving the Country.. Gotta take care of the wealthy and not run them out...
    Then pay them enough to stay off food stamps. Why are you defending people that are stealing your tax dollars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Yet half the country makes 30k or less a year.
    deep state obama to think for that.


    and you tried to keep it going...

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Then pay them enough to stay off food stamps. Why are you defending people that are stealing your tax dollars?
    notice how he can't stop lying, he makes up a lie in his head and then runs with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Then pay them enough to stay off food stamps. Why are you defending people that are stealing your tax dollars?
    I'm defending the middle working class and the poor hard working folks that want to get or keep their current jobs.. Nothing more..

    I can care less for the rich and big business owners getting richer as long as they can stay in America and create more jobs..

    Rich and greedy when they get more money will want to expand and grow and make even more money.. That creates more jobs and more big business.. That's keeping it real...
    Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-11-18 at 11:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I'm defending the middle working class and the poor hard working folks that want to get or keep their current jobs.. Nothing more..

    I can care less for the rich and big business owners getting richer if they can stay in America and create more jobs..
    Oh is that what your doing. Sounds like your defend Billionaires that are taking your tax dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Oh is that what your doing. Sounds like your defend Billionaires that are taking your tax dollars.
    lol coming from the sheep who defends bernie taking his tax dollars while getting NOTHING in return...

    truly can't make this kind of comedy up


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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    lol coming from the sheep who defends bernie taking his tax dollars while getting NOTHING in return...

    truly can't make this kind of comedy up


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    ^any suggestions on bernie's NEXT mansion location?





    bernie a true con man

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Does Walmart have more part time workers or full time workers?
    I don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    They are the government.
    Then we need to shrink the size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post
    I don't know.



    Then we need to shrink the size.
    Their killing the Golden Goose, buying up the government, & concentrating power.


    That's what you need to know.


    Oh yeah this shit makes you proud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Oh is that what your doing. Sounds like your defend Billionaires that are taking your tax dollars.
    Pinch the rich too hard with taxation and regulations and they will shrink or shut down big business and or just keep and hold their money... Hard working are then out of work and many suffer..

    Who cares about the few rich business owners getting richer?.. Maybe they will get a spiritual awakening later in life and end up giving all their wealth away to charity like Warren Buffet did.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/31/14-b...ng-pledge.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Their killing the Golden Goose, buying up the government, & concentrating power.


    That's what you need to know.


    Oh yeah this shit makes you proud.
    Doesn't make me proud at all, but it is the end result of your policies being put in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Pinch the rich too hard with taxation and regulations and they will shrink or shut down big business and or just keep and hold their money... Hard working are then out of work and many suffer..

    Who cares about the few rich business owners getting richer?.. Maybe they will get a spiritual awakening later in life and end up giving all their wealth away to charity like Warren Buffet did.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/31/14-b...ng-pledge.html
    You know what happens when millions of people are poor & all the money is in the hands of the few.

    The millions eventually just come & take your money. Its happened many times in history.

    So they better do something before it gets ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post
    Doesn't make me proud at all, but it is the end result of your policies being put in place.
    Not my policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    You know what happens when millions of people are poor & all the money is in the hands of the few.

    The millions eventually just come & take your money. Its happened many times in history.

    So they better do something before it gets ugly.
    Well do you know what happens when all the rich are gone and there are no more jobs coming available.. Crime, drugs and poverty is what you get coming into your neighborhood...

    Knickers you're a smart lad reason this out logically...

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Then pay them enough to stay off food stamps. Why are you defending people that are stealing your tax dollars?
    I went and looked at Walmart's new $11 an hour minimum with the new GOP tax plan. If the child credit is refundable, meaning you get 2k per child, one full time Walmart employee making $11 an hour can support a family of 7. They'll be under the poverty level by $100 a year, between 7 people. Imagine that, one worker supporting 7 people while working at Walmart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Not my policies.

    You support Keynesianism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Well do you know what happens when all the rich are gone and their are no more jobs.. Crime, drugs and poverty is what you get in your neighborhood...

    Knickers you're a smart lad reason this out logically...
    Thinks get bad enough with to many poor people. Your going to have that anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post
    I went and looked at Walmart's new $11 an hour minimum with the new GOP tax plan. If the child credit is refundable, meaning you get 2k per child, one full time Walmart employee making $11 an hour can support a family of 7. They'll be under the poverty level by $100 a year, between 7 people. Imagine that, one worker supporting 7 people while working at Walmart.
    Yeah you should try it for a year to test it out. Please report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post
    You support Keynesianism.
    I support a living wage, you support feudalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Yeah you should try it for a year to test it out. Please report back.
    It's above the poverty level.


    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    I support a living wage, you support feudalism.
    You support making people permanently dependent by making other people pay way more for a product than it's worth. I support people being free from coercion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post
    It's above the poverty level.




    You support making people permanently dependent by making other people pay way more for a product than it's worth. I support people being free from coercion.
    22k a year for 7 people. Josh one person would have a hard time with only 22k.

    No you support
    feudalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    22k a year for 7 people. Josh one person would have a hard time with only 22k.

    No you support
    feudalism.
    Reread what I said. If the child tax credit is refundable, meaning you get 2k a child, you will be above the poverty level if you work 40 hours and 10 minutes a week. 40.17x52x11x10000 is almost 33k a year, which is above the federal poverty level for a family of 7.

    Feudalism is where someone was granted land from the king and the peasants would work the land. It was all based on grants from the government, which is what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post
    Reread what I said. If the child tax credit is refundable, meaning you get 2k a child, you will be above the poverty level if you work 40 hours and 10 minutes a week. 40.17x52x11x10000 is almost 33k a year, which is above the federal poverty level for a family of 7.

    Feudalism is where someone was granted land from the king and the peasants would work the land. It was all based on grants from the government, which is what you want.
    Josh do you have any kids? Do you know what it cost to raise a kid the right way. To not have them grow up & be a drain on society as a whole.


    Tell you what Josh, when the revolution comes, & you need protection for your ass. How much do you think that is going to cost you?

    You can pay now, or you can pay later. Maybe even with your life.


    This is my policy, keep the peace before the shit gets out of hand.

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    Jibby deserves a shadow ban after his appearance in this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Josh do you have any kids? Do you know what it cost to raise a kid the right way. To not have them grow up & be a drain on society as a whole.


    Tell you what Josh, when the revolution comes, & you need protection for your ass. How much do you think that is going to cost you?

    You can pay now, or you can pay later. Maybe even with your life.


    This is my policy, keep the peace before the shit gets out of hand.
    Not that I know of.

    That revolution you're worried about has a less than 1% chance of happening.

    Your policy is give people money so they don't get violent, mine is if their only contribution to society is not destroying everything the rest of what society created, lock them up and throw away the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayvegas420 View Post
    Jibby deserves a shadow ban after his appearance in this thread
    I like being a shadow but I don't like being banned.. Play nicely Jay.. I wish you no harm.. ...

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    Great points Josh and Jibby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
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    You don't know what a shadow ban is, do you?

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